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16 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

Hmmm. I'll believe it when I see it. 

Exactly. I do like hearing it better than something stupid like “internal budget”. 

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1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

Hmmm. I'll believe it when I see it. 

https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/scott-oneil-podcast-general-manager-tom-fitzgerald-green-light-hbse-ceo/c-325461088

In other news, I had a dream last night about the draft. We picked Luke at 4oa and Jack handed him his jersey

Start at 22:00 to forego the book tour sales pitch.

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1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

Hmmm. I'll believe it when I see it. 

https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/scott-oneil-podcast-general-manager-tom-fitzgerald-green-light-hbse-ceo/c-325461088

In other news, I had a dream last night about the draft. We picked Luke at 4oa and Jack handed him his jersey

i can't imagine that if we do pick him that it's not how it's going down. I mean, they'll be in the same room most likely

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20 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

i can't imagine that if we do pick him that it's not how it's going down. I mean, they'll be in the same room most likely

Jack with the draft jersey hidden under a couch cushion and he just pulls it out like a magician after the announcement. 

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18 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Jack with the draft jersey hidden under a couch cushion and he just pulls it out like a magician after the announcement. 

Or trying to stuff it back under the cushion if they draft someone else

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1 minute ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Or trying to stuff it back under the cushion if they draft someone else

Lol “No Luke, that was just one of mine, was wondering where I left that…here’s your CBJ jersey”. 

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1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

Hmmm. I'll believe it when I see it. 

https://www.nhl.com/devils/news/scott-oneil-podcast-general-manager-tom-fitzgerald-green-light-hbse-ceo/c-325461088

In other news, I had a dream last night about the draft. We picked Luke at 4oa and Jack handed him his jersey

I know some (not saying you specifically) think the Devils don't want to spend money on the team, out of cheapness.  I don't think that's the case...Lou spent as much as he wanted to under the current ownership, then Ray came in and was clearly trying to build a core (from near-scratch) AND cap flexibility for when the core would be ready for reinforcements.  Fitz then came in and due to how the team performed really didn't have much choice but to deal off vets for whatever returns he could get.  It hasn't made much sense to spend big yet...PK was really a bit of a reach.  

Fitz doesn't strike me as being reckless...I don't see him spending just for the sake of doing so.  And as we've been over, having the space doesn't mean there's players willing to gobble it up...if I'm a UFA, I'm not sold on the potential of the Devils' core just yet.  I don't think a lot is going to happen this offseason, but I don't think it will be due to any penny-pinching...more because I don't think Fitz has any interest in being used as a bargaining chip, and I think he'd like to see his players have one more year of development (including guys like Holtz and Mercer) before he starts splurging on outside help.  I can see Fitz going after Coleman and a couple of mid-tier signings, assuming he has much interest in dipping his feet into the UFA pool at all.  

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32 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Jack with the draft jersey hidden under a couch cushion and he just pulls it out like a magician after the announcement. 

What i'd actually like to see if to see Fitz announce we're picking Luke. Then Luke stands up and he was wearing one of those suits you can just strip off with one pull like those 2000s adidas pants. Revealing he was wearing a Devils jersey underneath!

 

 

 

but then if he's drafted by someone else he just has to put another jersey on top of all that.

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11 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

What i'd actually like to see if to see Fitz announce we're picking Luke. Then Luke stands up and he was wearing one of those suits you can just strip off with one pull like those 2000s adidas pants. Revealing he was wearing a Devils jersey underneath!

 

 

 

but then if he's drafted by someone else he just has to put another jersey on top of all that.

Make the top 5 guys wear all 5 top teams’ jerseys and they have to rip off the wrong ones like Hulk Hogan until they get to the right one. 

Then, auction the ripped draft night jerseys for charity. 

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36 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I know some (not saying you specifically) think the Devils don't want to spend money on the team, out of cheapness.  I don't think that's the case...Lou spent as much as he wanted to under the current ownership, then Ray came in and was clearly trying to build a core (from near-scratch) AND cap flexibility for when the core would be ready for reinforcements.  Fitz then came in and due to how the team performed really didn't have much choice but to deal off vets for whatever returns he could get.  It hasn't made much sense to spend big yet...PK was really a bit of a reach.  

Fitz doesn't strike me as being reckless...I don't see him spending just for the sake of doing so.  And as we've been over, having the space doesn't mean there's players willing to gobble it up...if I'm a UFA, I'm not sold on the potential of the Devils' core just yet.  I don't think a lot is going to happen this offseason, but I don't think it will be due to any penny-pinching...more because I don't think Fitz has any interest in being used as a bargaining chip, and I think he'd like to see his players have one more year of development (including guys like Holtz and Mercer) before he starts splurging on outside help.  I can see Fitz going after Coleman and a couple of mid-tier signings, assuming he has much interest in dipping his feet into the UFA pool at all.  

I really cant belive Fitz will spend real money for someone who isn`t Hamilton. Defensemen may be. There are a lot of questions about our young guys who will try to play in NHL or did play real NHL games past season. Is Sharangovich top-6 scorer? Kuokkanen is second or third line winger? It was a flash of Zacha better version from parallel universe or he is top-6 winger? I dont think Fitz will sign sign Landeskog for 7\10 or Saad for 6\6 or more. Devils still have Holtz, Mercer and Foot in A-basket and have Clarke, Boqvist, Maltsev in B-basket. And players from A-basket deserve some chance to pull off opponents from their sits in roster.  If we sign Landeskog\Hyman\Hopkins\Saad for long term, devils will not give a real chance and place for their prospetcs, which they had difficulty recruiting.

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7 minutes ago, Guadana said:

I really cant belive Fitz will spend real money for someone who isn`t Hamilton. Defensemen may be. There are a lot of questions about our young guys who will try to play in NHL or did play real NHL games past season. Is Sharangovich top-6 scorer? Kuokkanen is second or third line winger? It was a flash of Zacha better version from parallel universe or he is top-6 winger? I dont think Fitz will sign sign Landeskog for 7\10 or Saad for 6\6 or more. Devils still have Holtz, Mercer and Foot in A-basket and have Clarke, Boqvist, Maltsev in B-basket. And players from A-basket deserve some chance to pull off opponents from their sits in roster.  If we sign Landeskog\Hyman\Hopkins\Saad for long term, devils will not give a real chance and place for their prospetcs, which they had difficulty recruiting.

Parallel universes, A & B-baskets…I love your posts so much lol. I would never, ever -3 you in the NJDevs members survivor game. 

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6 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Parallel universes, A & B-baskets…I love your posts so much lol. I would never, ever -3 you in the NJDevs members survivor game. 

Are you trying to buy me? 
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19 minutes ago, Guadana said:

I really cant belive Fitz will spend real money for someone who isn`t Hamilton. Defensemen may be. There are a lot of questions about our young guys who will try to play in NHL or did play real NHL games past season. Is Sharangovich top-6 scorer? Kuokkanen is second or third line winger? It was a flash of Zacha better version from parallel universe or he is top-6 winger? I dont think Fitz will sign sign Landeskog for 7\10 or Saad for 6\6 or more. Devils still have Holtz, Mercer and Foot in A-basket and have Clarke, Boqvist, Maltsev in B-basket. And players from A-basket deserve some chance to pull off opponents from their sits in roster.  If we sign Landeskog\Hyman\Hopkins\Saad for long term, devils will not give a real chance and place for their prospetcs, which they had difficulty recruiting.

From what ive seen Sharangovich is 100% a top 6 guy.

Kuokkanen it's strange. I know he did really good and was getting points but i honestly can't remember any plays with him.

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17 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Parallel universes, A & B-baskets…I love your posts so much lol. I would never, ever -3 you in the NJDevs members survivor game. 

Everyone knows you would be using yours on me daily. 

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5 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

From what ive seen Sharangovich is 100% a top 6 guy.

I would not agree with that quite yet. He basically had a good April. He had 4 points in the first 15 games and 12 in the first 30. 

I’d like to see him continue along the path he was on in April and May (but mostly just April), but for me he’s going to have to show his ability to do it consistently before I am ready to say he’s a top 6 guy.

We were saying that about Gusev at one point.  

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36 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I would not agree with that quite yet. He basically had a good April. He had 4 points in the first 15 games and 12 in the first 30. 

I’d like to see him continue along the path he was on in April and May (but mostly just April), but for me he’s going to have to show his ability to do it consistently before I am ready to say he’s a top 6 guy.

We were saying that about Gusev at one point.  

I mean, nobody is really proven on this team considering how young they all are, but scoring at an almost 30 goal pace as a rookie is pretty promising. He’s not just a shot either, Ruff used him in a lot of different situations.

Personally I’m super high on him. When everyone else was fawning over Koukkanen for (mostly) compiling points I thought Sharongovich was the far more impressive rookie (and Smith ofc). The Athletic actually did had a nice piece on him recently (I’ll link below), and I loved hearing about his work ethic. I’m betting on him building off his impressive first season. 

https://theathletic.com/2649578/2021/06/14/the-sky-is-the-limit-how-the-devils-yegor-sharangovich-became-a-breakout-young-star/

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6 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

From what ive seen Sharangovich is 100% a top 6 guy.

Kuokkanen it's strange. I know he did really good and was getting points but i honestly can't remember any plays with him.

Even if Kuokkanen is, does Fitz give long terms to Bratt and Zacha for playing wingers with Hischier? And if he will, do we thing Kuokkanen will be long term RW with Hughes when we have Mercer and Holtz? If we will bring him on the third line. do we really need in long term vet now?  I think 1. yes, 2. maybe and hope not, 3. no, we dont. There is a reason to sign two way forwards for the third line on 2 years contracts. Or we should trade Zacha for top-4 D(or Tkachuk. I would give them Zacha or Severson or even both, if Tkachuk will sign long term right after the trade), but we didnt trade Zacha still. or yet.

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43 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I would not agree with that quite yet. He basically had a good April. He had 4 points in the first 15 games and 12 in the first 30. 

I’d like to see him continue along the path he was on in April and May (but mostly just April), but for me he’s going to have to show his ability to do it consistently before I am ready to say he’s a top 6 guy.

We were saying that about Gusev at one point.  

Well if you look at say... Wood's season and Sharangovich... i'm still wondering if Wood can replicate that cause his goals were all over the place. But Sharangovich, just by looking at the way he played. I really didn't see a fluke there. It was a lot more "controlled". He's great at finding open spaces and if he has the puck "in good position", he'd put it in way more often than not.

I know it's different level, age, competition and everything. But what Sharangovich did this season is what i wanted to see Holtz do playing against his peers at the world junior. But all i saw was him being in good position, leading the tournament in shots, so he had his opportunity, but he just couldnt finish, would miss the net or shoot directly on the goalie, so as a "sniper" playing against his peer, not very encouraging so far. Sharangovich seem to be putting it in when he's in position at this level

 

 

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If Sharangovich will not pan out, I dont know who will. Skills, speed, shot, skating, takeaways, he is big enough. ANd young enough. He started slowly, but when he was playing with Zajac and Hughes he was 0.5+ ppg player. And most importantly he started to look solid on NHL ice when he started to play with Janne and Travis. Hughes started to take points after he was put on Sharkannens line,  not the other way around. Everyone can fail, but I hope he will develope more. 

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21 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Well if you look at say... Wood's season and Sharangovich... i'm still wondering if Wood can replicate that cause his goals were all over the place. But Sharangovich, just by looking at the way he played. I really didn't see a fluke there. It was a lot more "controlled". He's great at finding open spaces and if he has the puck "in good position", he'd put it in way more often than not.

I know it's different level, age, competition and everything. But what Sharangovich did this season is what i wanted to see Holtz do playing against his peers at the world junior. But all i saw was him being in good position, leading the tournament in shots, so he had his opportunity, but he just couldnt finish, would miss the net or shoot directly on the goalie, so as a "sniper" playing against his peer, not very encouraging so far. Sharangovich seem to be putting it in when he's in position at this level

He does seem to be. But it was like a month that he was doing that. He was borderline invisible early in the season. 

Like I said, I hope he picks right up where he left off. I’m just not sold on a guy after such a short period of time. 

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2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

He does seem to be. But it was like a month that he was doing that. He was borderline invisible wary in the season. 

Like I said, I hope he picks right up where he left off. I’m just not sold on a guy after such a short period of time. 

Maybe but it's also easy to point out why it may be. Young guys will always go through slumps and working the kinks on GOOD teams. So imagine on this team, through covid and without practices

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Just now, SterioDesign said:

Maybe but it's also easy to point out why it may be. Young guys will always go through slumps and working the kinks on GOOD teams. So imagine on this team, through covid and without practices

That’s fine. It’s a great excuse for it. I don’t know if you call the whole season up until April a “slump”, or maybe he played above his average for a month, who knows. 

All I’m saying is, before I anoint a guy as a top 6 going forward, I would like to see a bit larger of a sample. 

I hope you are right, and I’m not saying you aren’t. 

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