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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

That’s fine. It’s a great excuse for it. I don’t know if you call the whole season up until April a “slump”, or maybe he played above his average for a month, who knows. 

All I’m saying is, before I anoint a guy as a top 6 going forward, I would like to see a bit larger of a sample. 

I hope you are right, and I’m not saying you aren’t. 

Thats totally fine. He just seem to have a lot going for him. Buddy won his spot out of nowhere this year, scoring like a mofo during the pre-season and training camp and he was one of the top rookies of this year. So to me he's at least an NHLer

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3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Thats totally fine. He just seem to have a lot going for him. Buddy won his spot out of nowhere this year, scoring like a mofo during the pre-season and training camp and he was one of the top rookies of this year. So to me he's at least an NHLer

So far, so good!

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2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I know some (not saying you specifically) think the Devils don't want to spend money on the team, out of cheapness.  I don't think that's the case...Lou spent as much as he wanted to under the current ownership, then Ray came in and was clearly trying to build a core (from near-scratch) AND cap flexibility for when the core would be ready for reinforcements.  Fitz then came in and due to how the team performed really didn't have much choice but to deal off vets for whatever returns he could get.  It hasn't made much sense to spend big yet...PK was really a bit of a reach.  

Fitz doesn't strike me as being reckless...I don't see him spending just for the sake of doing so.  And as we've been over, having the space doesn't mean there's players willing to gobble it up...if I'm a UFA, I'm not sold on the potential of the Devils' core just yet.  I don't think a lot is going to happen this offseason, but I don't think it will be due to any penny-pinching...more because I don't think Fitz has any interest in being used as a bargaining chip, and I think he'd like to see his players have one more year of development (including guys like Holtz and Mercer) before he starts splurging on outside help.  I can see Fitz going after Coleman and a couple of mid-tier signings, assuming he has much interest in dipping his feet into the UFA pool at all.  

I'm hoping Fitz does dip into UFA pool. There are a couple very good game changers out there to be had. And not the one year wonder signings/trades like Ryan Murray. (not saying he was bad) Fitz will spend the $$, but will have to overpay/term.  Holtz/Mercer are years away from contributing. (you're right CR they need to season in Utica.) All of us will squabble a little about who to sign & who not to sign. But of course, I'll be right! 😀

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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

Thats totally fine. He just seem to have a lot going for him. Buddy won his spot out of nowhere this year, scoring like a mofo during the pre-season and training camp and he was one of the top rookies of this year. So to me he's at least an NHLer

He also had 17 goals in 34 GP in the KHL right before coming over, too. The Athletic article I linked touched on what he changed wrt his shot, and our old buddy Brylin was actually one of the two coaches credited with helping him fine-tune it (basically don’t shoot like PK lol)

Two assistant coaches in particular — Sergei Brylin in the AHL, Mikhail Grabovski in the KHL — have put in the hours of work with Sharangovich before and after practices to fine-tune his shooting ability. It looks a little different than a typical wrist shot — I’ve used words like “whip” and “sling” to describe the motion. Dennehy said it reminds him of a lacrosse shot. 

It looks different this season than how he used to shoot, and that was by design. 

Well, that was something that we had identified,” Woodcroft said. “It was myself and Mikhail Grabovski because Grabber did a lot of the physical work with Yegor, so I don’t want to step on his toes. One of the things that we had seen was, yeah, he would take too long to get his shot off. It was such a dramatic wind-up and a ‘here it comes’ type of process. We felt that if we could tighten it up and change the angle of the puck when it’s delivered, so kind of kill two birds in one stone, that he could catch a lot of people off guard. And he did have a powerful shot to begin with. So those two things, we worked on a lot over the last summer.”

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3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

He also had 17 goals in 34 GP in the KHL right before coming over, too. The Athletic article I linked touched on what he changed wrt his shot, and our old buddy Brylin was actually one of the two coaches credited with helping him fine-tune it (basically don’t shoot like PK lol)

Two assistant coaches in particular — Sergei Brylin in the AHL, Mikhail Grabovski in the KHL — have put in the hours of work with Sharangovich before and after practices to fine-tune his shooting ability. It looks a little different than a typical wrist shot — I’ve used words like “whip” and “sling” to describe the motion. Dennehy said it reminds him of a lacrosse shot. 

It looks different this season than how he used to shoot, and that was by design. 

Well, that was something that we had identified,” Woodcroft said. “It was myself and Mikhail Grabovski because Grabber did a lot of the physical work with Yegor, so I don’t want to step on his toes. One of the things that we had seen was, yeah, he would take too long to get his shot off. It was such a dramatic wind-up and a ‘here it comes’ type of process. We felt that if we could tighten it up and change the angle of the puck when it’s delivered, so kind of kill two birds in one stone, that he could catch a lot of people off guard. And he did have a powerful shot to begin with. So those two things, we worked on a lot over the last summer.”

Do you remember Langenbrunner shooting like that at times too? like he'd give himself suuuch a big fvcking swing. You always kind of saw the whole Snoopy thing in your head where he pulls the football away before the kid was going to kick it and fall on his ass lol

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31 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

He also had 17 goals in 34 GP in the KHL right before coming over, too.

Reid Boucher scored a goal every other game in the KHL this past season also. Just sayin’. 

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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

he had his shot in the NHL and never did what Sharangovich did though

Exactly. Boucher had 20 career goals in 133 NHL games. 

Sharongovich just had 16 goals his first (shortened) season. 

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31 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Exactly. Boucher had 20 career goals in 133 NHL games. 

Sharongovich just had 16 goals his first (shortened) season. 

I’m just pointing out that KHL numbers are meaningless. I’m not really comparing the two guys. Obviously Sharangovich is better

Shout out to my iPhone for letting me dictate “Sharangovich” while driving and getting it right.

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11 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I’d do that in a hot second. I doubt Tampa would though lol.

Really intersting what kind of "good young defenseman" Fitz means. Makar\Q Hughes\Heiskanen? Its never happen. Girard/Toews? Hope not, because we can get them cheaper. Cernak? Cheaperer. C Foote? Cheapererer. Zadorov? Hope he will never play in NJD even he will pay Devils for it.

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10 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I’m just pointing out that KHL numbers are meaningless. I’m not really comparing the two guys. Obviously Sharangovich is better

Shout out to my iPhone for letting me dictate “Sharangovich” while driving and getting it right.

Just to clarify, all I am saying is that it is a tremendous leap of faith to go from a guy having a good April to saying he’s a top six and part of our core going forward. I hope he is, I think he could be, but I need to see more of a sample size. 

Same thing I say about everybody else.

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3 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

I’d do that in a hot second. I doubt Tampa would though lol.

BTW  about trade 4th for young defenseman.
tampa has draft problems. And they are in win now mode. They dont need in 4th pick. But. If Fitz trade Smith(he is protect for the draft) and nyi pick for Sergachyov? Are you like it or not?)

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7 minutes ago, Guadana said:

BTW  about trade 4th for young defenseman.
tampa has draft problems. And they are in win now mode. They dont need in 4th pick. But. If Fitz trade Smith(he is protect for the draft) and nyi pick for Sergachyov? Are you like it or not?)

I don’t like that nearly as much. I can’t get on board with trading Smith.

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1 hour ago, Guadana said:

BTW  about trade 4th for young defenseman.
tampa has draft problems. And they are in win now mode. They dont need in 4th pick. But. If Fitz trade Smith(he is protect for the draft) and nyi pick for Sergachyov? Are you like it or not?)

Yes, they are win now mode but really only Stamkos and McD are close to having their game fall off a cliff.  Point, Hedman, Vas,  kucherov, Palat all have many years left.  Tyler Johnson is a negative so if they can clear his salary while adding a potentially good defensemen at #4 on an entry level contract, I think it would be perfect for them going forward.   
 

I don’t really want to do something around #4 and I’m definitely not sending Smith.   We’re not 1 defenseman away so given the cap space we have, I hope we’re adding a D at #4 in the draft plus adding a high priced free agent.   
 

Also, serious question, how great would sergachev look if he’s not slotted behind Hedman and McDonough in the lineup?   A barely ever notice him when I watch the Lightning but maybe that’s a good thing.  

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4 hours ago, Guadana said:

BTW  about trade 4th for young defenseman.
tampa has draft problems. And they are in win now mode. They dont need in 4th pick. But. If Fitz trade Smith(he is protect for the draft) and nyi pick for Sergachyov? Are you like it or not?)

I don't like from the point of view that... we need to ADD to our d-corp, Smith seem to be at the very least a top 4 guy for our future... Sergachev is obviously better than Smith now... but that's kind of a lateral move to slightly upgrade tone player but then we still have the same hole. Plus one less draft pick. I'd trade for Sergachev for a forward though

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5 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

I don't like from the point of view that... we need to ADD to our d-corp, Smith seem to be at the very least a top 4 guy for our future... Sergachev is obviously better than Smith now... but that's kind of a lateral move to slightly upgrade tone player but then we still have the same hole. Plus one less draft pick. I'd trade for Sergachev for a forward though

Yeah it would make no sense, Smith is basically the only guy we have in whom I have any degree of confidence. 

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We also have to remember that a player that has good stats on a very good team,  will drop significantly coming to ours. He won't have the supporting cast. Sergachev would be a 1-2 here. He's #4 in Tampa. He's not an offensive powerhouse, & never will be. But, we need a good shut down guy.  Friedman says a good young D, you honestly think Dallas would consider trading  Heiskenen? Colorado-Byrum? Yotes- Chychrun? Van-Hughes? what are you smoking?  Is Jake Bean worth a #4 pick? (didn't think so)  Nothing to get hung about.  

 

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26 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

We also have to remember that a player that has good stats on a very good team,  will drop significantly coming to ours. He won't have the supporting cast. Sergachev would be a 1-2 here. He's #4 in Tampa. He's not an offensive powerhouse, & never will be. But, we need a good shut down guy.  Friedman says a good young D, you honestly think Dallas would consider trading  Heiskenen? Colorado-Byrum? Yotes- Chychrun? Van-Hughes? what are you smoking?  Is Jake Bean worth a #4 pick? (didn't think so)  Nothing to get hung about.  

 

Agreed, none of those guys are getting traded. I’m not entirely sure Sergachev, who we talk about every offseason and is never actually moved, is even available. 

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I would trade Smith for Sergachyov right in the moment they will ask us because they try to go through draft without big lost and they will not need to protect Smith. And he is a real player. Sergachyov is bigger, better skater and better personal protector. He is experienced guy who doesn’t need better defensive defenseman as partner. I think Smith is better playmaker potentially, but we can draft playmaker on this draft. Too bad this trade never happen (bolts will never trade player like Sergachyov for Smith or 4th round pick) and I hope Smith will fix his weaknesses somehow.

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