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16 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said:

I just read that Travis Zajac led the Islanders forwards in even-strength ice time in this series.

Thats because he fits in so good. 

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5 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said:

I guess so! Not bad for a healthy scratch for much of round 1.

I only watched a few minutes tonight but he was very active. 

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3 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Imagine Sterio’s reaction if it’s Lou’s Isles vs the Habs in the finals...lol

 

Was thinking the same exact thing, heh heh.

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4 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Ok, sounds more like it lol. 

Guy sounds like a tool though, acting like he was just innocently walking by and they attacked him, like he wasn’t antagonizing them. 

Not that it excuses what happened, but it explains it. 

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51 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Ok, sounds more like it lol. 

Guy sounds like a tool though, acting like he was just innocently walking by and they attacked him, like he wasn’t antagonizing them. 

Not that it excuses what happened, but it explains it. 

Wut? How is walking in an intersection at 11:30 at night antagonist?

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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

Ok, sounds more like it lol. 

Guy sounds like a tool though, acting like he was just innocently walking by and they attacked him, like he wasn’t antagonizing them. 

Not that it excuses what happened, but it explains it. 

That video of him being sweeped was before the game, this was after the game, I can't imagine he was trying to talk sh!t after they got swept but people are stupid so who knows but the Article says it was a bunch of people who went after him as he was just walking home. 

This part does make me question if he was fully innocent though since this is questionable character lol... 

"Wojakowski said he’s lived in Montreal since moving here from Winnipeg in the summer of 2019 and while he has faced taunts and nasty comments from other hockey fans for wearing jerseys from other teams (he’s also a Leafs fan), it’s never been violent." 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

That video of him being sweeped was before the game, this was after the game, I can't imagine he was trying to talk sh!t after they got swept but people are stupid so who knows but the Article says it was a bunch of people who went after him as he was just walking home. 

This part does make me question if he was fully innocent though since this is questionable character lol... 

"Wojakowski said he’s lived in Montreal since moving here from Winnipeg in the summer of 2019 and while he has faced taunts and nasty comments from other hockey fans for wearing jerseys from other teams (he’s also a Leafs fan), it’s never been violent." 

 

 

Maybe. But he was obviously storing up sh!t before the game, wouldn’t be out of the realm of belief he was still putting that out there after. 

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1 hour ago, Satans Hockey said:

That video of him being sweeped was before the game, this was after the game, I can't imagine he was trying to talk sh!t after they got swept but people are stupid so who knows but the Article says it was a bunch of people who went after him as he was just walking home. 

This part does make me question if he was fully innocent though since this is questionable character lol... 

"Wojakowski said he’s lived in Montreal since moving here from Winnipeg in the summer of 2019 and while he has faced taunts and nasty comments from other hockey fans for wearing jerseys from other teams (he’s also a Leafs fan), it’s never been violent." 

 

 

He’s ‘also a Leafs fan’? Bullsh!t. If you have ‘two teams’, you have none.

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17 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

He’s ‘also a Leafs fan’? Bullsh!t. If you have ‘two teams’, you have none.

I couldn’t agree more. 

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39 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

He’s ‘also a Leafs fan’? Bullsh!t. If you have ‘two teams’, you have none.

Agree fully, as far as "second favorite" teams go...especially as your allegiances become fully formed.  

The only time I ever had a second team was when I rooted for the Toronto Blue Jays, as a kid (not nearly as hard as I ever did or will for the Mets, but on our 8th-grade class trip to Toronto, we went to see a game up at old Exhibition Stadium, and being 13 at the time, I kinda took an interest in them for a while...dug their unis too, with their soccer-style numbers...was a big Jimmy Key fan).  But I'll admit it, when the Jays won the 1992 and 1993 World Series, I can't say that I was nearly as ecstatic as I was when the Mets won (who were always my first team by far, no matter how they performed)...and that's when I kinda realized that even though I kept up with the Jays for about 10 years, I really wasn't all that passionate about them, especially compared to the Mets...and that was it for me, as far as ever having a second team went.  Just kind of outgrew the concept.  

I will sometimes root for another team temporarily if my team is toast, particularly if that team has a former player who I was fond of, and is going for a championship...I did root for the Bucs to win it all last season, because of Brady and Gronk...but I would never "adopt" the Bucs (or any other NFL team) as my second team.  

On that note, on one level, I'm happy for Kyle and Travis (and Greene, though less so), but I can't say that I'm "rooting" for the Isles because that damned first-rounder is getting lower and lower.  I would've rather seen the Isles go bye-bye in the first round, because that would have been best for my team.

And as someone who hates the Yankees (I respect their history, but I hate 'em), I'm always rooting for the Red Sox, but not in nearly the same way that I root for the Mets...like I said, only one second team ever in my rooting history, and that won't ever happen again.  And most of the time, when my team(s) are done, I am too.  Football is really the only sport where I'll keep watching the playoffs once my team's done, but most football fans do that.  

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I mean I absolutely have two favorite teams. I root for the Devils and whoever is playing the Rangers with equal force. 

I don't think it's gatekeeping, though. For me, I've never met someone who says "I'm a fan of several teams" who can actually name more than 3 players on each team. That's just anecdotal, maybe. Fans are allowed to do whatever the hell that they want, but this guy's little 5 minutes of internet fame is making him look like a pretty big dweeb. 

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3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

And as someone who hates the Yankees (I respect their history, but I hate 'em), I'm always rooting for the Red Sox, but not in nearly the same way that I root for the Mets...like I said, only one second team ever in my rooting history, and that won't ever happen again.  And most of the time, when my team(s) are done, I am too.  Football is really the only sport where I'll keep watching the playoffs once my team's done, but most football fans do that.  

Lol, every single fvcking Mets fan roots for the Red Sox. I know you, I like you, but maaaaaan I find that really pathetic. It's like saying "oh I always pull for the Kings because that one year they beat the Rangers in the finals". I cheered for the Caps while they were playing in all of those playoff series between the teams in the 2010s, but I'd never say "I'm always rooting for the Capitals". 

This is directed at the sports world as a whole and not necessarily you or the other mets fans on this subreddit, but there's a crazy complex when it comes to Yankees/Mets fans. Almost every Yankees fan I know likes the Mets -- I actively hope they're doing well, I know so many Mets fans that it's easy to cheer for them. I even borrowed a Mets cap from my friend during their WS run to wear to the bars for games! 

But every single Mets fan I knows lists the Yankees as number-one on their hate list. They seethe talking about the Yankees. Even the tiniest mention of pinstripes makes them want to kick a newborn puppy. It's such a weird dichotomy. I guess there's 2000 as one of the reasons why. And there are a huge collection of obnoxious Yankees fans (I would say percentage wise it's similar for Mets fans). But what else is it? Now that the Mets are finally starting to act like a big-market team, is that going to disappear? My uncle is a Rangers/Mets fan and he hates the Yankees more than he likes any sports franchise in the fvcking world and it's just so weird to see. 

Anyway, random, but yea. 

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3 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Lol, every single fvcking Mets fan roots for the Red Sox. I know you, I like you, but maaaaaan I find that really pathetic. It's like saying "oh I always pull for the Kings because that one year they beat the Rangers in the finals". I cheered for the Caps while they were playing in all of those playoff series between the teams in the 2010s, but I'd never say "I'm always rooting for the Capitals". 

This is directed at the sports world as a whole and not necessarily you or the other mets fans on this subreddit, but there's a crazy complex when it comes to Yankees/Mets fans. Almost every Yankees fan I know likes the Mets -- I actively hope they're doing well, I know so many Mets fans that it's easy to cheer for them. I even borrowed a Mets cap from my friend during their WS run to wear to the bars for games! 

But every single Mets fan I knows lists the Yankees as number-one on their hate list. They seethe talking about the Yankees. Even the tiniest mention of pinstripes makes them want to kick a newborn puppy. It's such a weird dichotomy. I guess there's 2000 as one of the reasons why. And there are a huge collection of obnoxious Yankees fans (I would say percentage wise it's similar for Mets fans). But what else is it? Now that the Mets are finally starting to act like a big-market team, is that going to disappear? My uncle is a Rangers/Mets fan and he hates the Yankees more than he likes any sports franchise in the fvcking world and it's just so weird to see. 

Anyway, random, but yea. 

I don't want to make it sound like "rooting" for the Red Sox is some obsessively active thing, or that I derive more joy out of a Yankees loss than a Mets win.  It's really more just wanting to see the Red Sox ahead of the Yanks in the standings.  I obviously know who the Red Sox's more popular players are, but I couldn't name half the team right now.  As far as truly "hating" a team goes, I'd say my hatred towards the Rangers is first and foremost.  I hate everything about that franchise, their fans, everything.  Like I said, I have a certain respect for Yankee history.  I have none for the Rangers.

There's a certain type of Noo Yawk Yankee fan that I find annoying...the one that acts like it's his birthright to be in the playoffs every year, and will use words like "suffering" if it's been a while since winning a Series (despite still making the playoffs constantly).  The one that thinks the rest of the league is their personal shopping mall, and that they're entitled to any top player that's out there (and often proposing a deal involving 3-5 spare parts for such a player)...that somehow, the league only exists to make the almighty Yankees better.  That's where part of the hatred comes from, for me.  And there's the fans who claim to be Yankee fans, yet can't name more than 5 players on the team.  

2000 doesn't make me feel anything worse for the Yankees...a damned good team that won that Series fair and square, and they were simply better than the Mets.  

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32 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I mean I absolutely have two favorite teams. I root for the Devils and whoever is playing the Rangers with equal force. 

I don't think it's gatekeeping, though. For me, I've never met someone who says "I'm a fan of several teams" who can actually name more than 3 players on each team. That's just anecdotal, maybe. Fans are allowed to do whatever the hell that they want, but this guy's little 5 minutes of internet fame is making him look like a pretty big dweeb. 

that was my angle on the gatekeeping. I know several people cheering for 2 teams and with really good / valid reasons. Also they are all very knowledgeable about hockey. There's so many reasons that can make sense as to why someone could have 2 teams they cheer for.

So the whole "if you have 2 teams you have none" nonsense is just such a narrow and closed mind point of view.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

The one that thinks the rest of the league is their personal shopping mall, and that they're entitled to any top player that's out there

That's fine, but it makes me confused why you root for the Red Sox. They're a top-5 payroll team every year for the last 2 decades, who won all of their world series' on the backs of players who were purchased from other teams. 

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14 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

that was my angle on the gatekeeping. I know several people cheering for 2 teams and with really good / valid reasons. Also they are all very knowledgeable about hockey. There's so many reasons that can make sense as to why someone could have 2 teams they cheer for.

So the whole "if you have 2 teams you have none" nonsense is just such a narrow and closed mind point of view.

 

 

We’ll agree to disagree.

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I don't root for the Red Sox any more than anyone else who is playing the Yankees, but as a long-time Yankees hater (their fans are about as obnoxious as Rangers fans around here), there is always a special joy in watching teh Yankees fans be pissed at losing to their rival. 

46 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

that was my angle on the gatekeeping. I know several people cheering for 2 teams and with really good / valid reasons. Also they are all very knowledgeable about hockey. There's so many reasons that can make sense as to why someone could have 2 teams they cheer for.

So the whole "if you have 2 teams you have none" nonsense is just such a narrow and closed mind point of view.

You can root for two teams, sure. But in my opinion, you aren't a die-hard fan of either in that instance. If you were, rooting for your "second favorite team" would just feel wrong. And, in terms of Devils fans, those who employ a "second favorite" that happens to be a perennial contender, that's even worse. 

It's like how you can have two girlfriends, but you can't really be all that serious about either of them if you aren't ready to commit to one of them. 

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