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35 minutes ago, MB3 said:

That's fine, but it makes me confused why you root for the Red Sox. They're a top-5 payroll team every year for the last 2 decades, who won all of their world series' on the backs of players who were purchased from other teams. 

I think its pretty clear he's only "rooting" for them to beat and be ahead of the Yankees. Any Mets fan can get behind that to some extent, for the reasons I noted above. 

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29 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

We’ll agree to disagree.

For example. My buddy has always been a Sens fan. He grew up around here but lived in ottawa for years. His dad was a huge islanders fan. They'd always watch games together and that was their time together. Much like ColoradoRockies1976 and his daughter. His father passed away suddenly a few years ago and now he's fully embracing cheering for both teams cause cheering for the Islanders is making him feel like he's spending that time with his dad. 

Now you try to go and tell him "yeah if you cheer for 2 teams you have no team". 

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5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I don't root for the Red Sox any more than anyone else who is playing the Yankees, but as a long-time Yankees hater (their fans are about as obnoxious as Rangers fans around here), there is always a special joy in watching teh Yankees fans be pissed at losing to their rival. 

You can root for two teams, sure. But in my opinion, you aren't a die-hard fan of either in that instance. If you were, rooting for your "second favorite team" would just feel wrong. And, in terms of Devils fans, those who employ a "second favorite" that happens to be a perennial contender, that's even worse. 

It's like how you can have two girlfriends, but you can't really be all that serious about either of them if you aren't ready to commit to one of them. 

why though? Most guys i know cheering for 2 teams knows more about those teams or hockey in general than many many many fans of one team that i know. That are just cheering for a team cause its their local team and thats it. 

Or i know guys that are fan of wtv team but moved in another city where there's a team there. And they love hockey so they embrace the local team too, so they can go see games more often than just going when your team is in town

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44 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I think its pretty clear he's only "rooting" for them to beat and be ahead of the Yankees. Any Mets fan can get behind that to some extent, for the reasons I noted above. 

The phrase "I'm always rooting for the Red Sox" is pretty clear to me, but who knows. 

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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

why though? Most guys i know cheering for 2 teams knows more about those teams or hockey in general than many many many fans of one team that i know. That are just cheering for a team cause its their local team and thats it. 

Or i know guys that are fan of wtv team but moved in another city where there's a team there. And they love hockey so they embrace the local team too, so they can go see games more often than just going when your team is in town

Because if you are a hardcore fan, you can’t root for another team. You just can’t. In my opinion, anyway. 

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19 minutes ago, MB3 said:

The phrase "I'm always rooting for the Red Sox" is pretty clear to me, but who knows. 

I don't want to make it sound like "rooting" for the Red Sox is some obsessively active thing, or that I derive more joy out of a Yankees loss than a Mets win.  It's really more just wanting to see the Red Sox ahead of the Yanks in the standings” is pretty clear to me. 

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51 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I don't want to make it sound like "rooting" for the Red Sox is some obsessively active thing, or that I derive more joy out of a Yankees loss than a Mets win.  It's really more just wanting to see the Red Sox ahead of the Yanks in the standings” is pretty clear to me. 

I know you love your long-winded semantic debates more than most (any), but I think that's CR backpedaling a bit from his initial "i'm always rooting for the red sox" comment that prompted a reply from me. 

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2 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

For example. My buddy has always been a Sens fan. He grew up around here but lived in ottawa for years. His dad was a huge islanders fan. They'd always watch games together and that was their time together. Much like ColoradoRockies1976 and his daughter. His father passed away suddenly a few years ago and now he's fully embracing cheering for both teams cause cheering for the Islanders is making him feel like he's spending that time with his dad. 

Now you try to go and tell him "yeah if you cheer for 2 teams you have no team". 

I have news for you: your buddy was never really a Sens fan. I certainly empathize with him, and I’m sorry to hear about his dad. And if he pulls for the Islanders to do well for his dad, that’s fine. But if he is truly a die-hard Sens fan, you can’t replicate that passion for a second team. There’s an emotional attachment to a sports team one develops as a kid, usually. That means emotional and time investment. If you love a team, you love a team. There is no polygamy in sports rooting.

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33 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I know you love your long-winded semantic debates more than most (any), but I think that's CR backpedaling a bit from his initial "i'm always rooting for the red sox" comment that prompted a reply from me. 

If anyone is engaging in semantics, its you. His original quote was:

"And as someone who hates the Yankees (I respect their history, but I hate 'em), I'm always rooting for the Red Sox, but not in nearly the same way that I root for the Mets..."

Then he explained what he meant. You ignored the explanation and relied only on part of his original quote that you cherry-picked and said "i think that's clear", even though you cut out all of the qualifying language. 

You can do that with literally anything:

35 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I know you love...me. 

Damn right. 

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I used to have “two teams” when the Jackets were in the west. And I can assure you I could name pretty much every player on the rosters of both them and the Devils any given year. I picked the Devils as my team during the 2000 playoffs because Scott Stevens quickly became my favorite player when I first got really into the NHL. I’ve been a hardcore NJ fan ever since.

I followed the Jackets out of proximity though. I’m in Ohio. I can get to Columbus in just over 90 minutes. They’re televised on my local sports channels, etc. And I fell for the NHL hard (I’d only really watched minor league growing up), so I wanted to consume as much of it as possible. So I rooted for them for years when they were in the west. The only time I didn’t was once a year when the Devils would come to town. I’d be up there rooting for the Devils. 

I haven’t followed CBJ as closely since they moved to the East, and I certainly don’t root for them anymore as they’re in our division (Tortorella made it even easier while he was there), but I see absolutely nothing wrong with the situation I described, or anyone having a “2nd team” for that matter. You don’t get to tell someone else they aren’t a real fan because they don’t do it the same way you do. Doesn’t work like that. 

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Yea, not really on board with the whole one or none idea either. To each their own. 

THG has three teams and follows all the teams around the league. You could claim he isn't a real fan or something, but you'd just look a little ridiculous. He loves the sport as much as anyone on the planet. 

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23 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Yea, not really on board with the whole one or none idea either. To each their own. 

THG has three teams and follows all the teams around the league. You could claim he isn't a real fan or something, but you'd just look a little ridiculous. He loves the sport as much as anyone on the planet. 

He may love the sport that much, but he doesn’t love his favorite team that much. 

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7 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

On that note, on one level, I'm happy for Kyle and Travis (and Greene, though less so)

Kyle can fvck off, I've always been a logo on the front fan over names on the back but didn't realize how dirty Palms can be, dude hurt Blackwood on a meaningless play in a blowout game, fvck him. Hope Tampa sweeps them. 

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10 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Kyle can fvck off, I've always been a logo on the front fan over names on the back but didn't realize how dirty Palms can be, dude hurt Blackwood on a meaningless play in a blowout game, fvck him. Hope Tampa sweeps them. 

Tampa has a player that nut-checked our 19 year old rookie (about as big a bitch move as you can get). Other than Coleman I see no reason to root for them either.

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38 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Tampa has a player that nut-checked our 19 year old rookie (about as big a bitch move as you can get). Other than Coleman I see no reason to root for them either.

I don't know any Tampa fans nor have to deal with them in our arena several times a year. I'm not rooting for Tampa, I just want the Islanders out. 

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15 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I don't know any Tampa fans nor have to deal with them in our arena several times a year. I'm not rooting for Tampa, I just want the Islanders out. 

Fair enough. I don’t have to deal with Isles fans, so I can’t speak on that. At least you have a good reason though. 

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

Tampa has a player that nut-checked our 19 year old rookie (about as big a bitch move as you can get). Other than Coleman I see no reason to root for them either.

You don’t live in the Tri-State area though, where the Islander bandwagon has been annoyingly filling up lately. They gotta go.

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4 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

You don’t live in the Tri-State area though, where the Islander bandwagon has been annoyingly filling up lately. They gotta go.

Yep. They have become increasingly annoying. 

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9 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Fair enough. I don’t have to deal with Isles fans, so I can’t speak on that. At least you have a good reason though. 

 

1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

You don’t live in the Tri-State area though, where the Islander bandwagon has been annoyingly filling up lately. They gotta go.

I get hating a team because of the fan base, and like I said, that’s fair, but I just don’t have a problem with any of their players or coaches. I guess for me, outside of the Rags, I hate individual players more than specific teams. And with the rat out now, my biggest grudge is probably with Hedman and Kucherov. 

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45 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

 

I get hating a team because of the fan base, and like I said, that’s fair, but I just don’t have a problem with any of their players or coaches. I guess for me, outside of the Rags, I hate individual players more than specific teams. And with the rat out now, my biggest grudge is probably with Hedman and Kucherov. 

I get it. But yeah, for me, the Isles are an annoying nuisance that needs to be dealt with. I’m not keen on seeing Lou win elsewhere, and while I’d be happy for the ex-Devil brigade, seeing another team in the area that’s a rival, that I don’t like, succeed, doesn’t sit well. The local media coverage is also beginning to get on my nerves. Like I said, the Islanders need to go. The only solace in them doing well is that it royally pisses off Rag fans lol.

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31 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I get it. But yeah, for me, the Isles are an annoying nuisance that needs to be dealt with. I’m not keen on seeing Lou win elsewhere, and while I’d be happy for the ex-Devil brigade, seeing another team in the area that’s a rival, that I don’t like, succeed, doesn’t sit well. The local media coverage is also beginning to get on my nerves. Like I said, the Islanders need to go. The only solace in them doing well is that it royally pisses off Rag fans lol.

Exactly. But I think you have to be local to truly understand it. You can only learn so much on the internet. You have to live it. 

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