SterioDesign Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guadana said: This is not how hockey work. Dangerous shot isnt only position. You should manage it for your wingers. If Holtz is a only danger on the ice - he will always protect or be on safe position to make a save. And he made enough of good shots. And was the best player on the ice in the best and most meaning game with Russia. Did you skipped over the part where i pointed out him missing the net or shooting directly in the goalie's chest? That's also not how hockey work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Did you skipped over the part where i pointed out him missing the net or shooting directly in the goalie's chest? That's also not how hockey work. He manage a lot of shots. A lot. Some were in the chest of goalie. Some were missing. And he manage it without good center. Like any potential scoring winger he must manage a lot shouts and find opportunities for it and score about 12-18%. Dont forget about his Covid break before WJC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Guadana said: He manage a lot of shots. A lot. Some were in the chest of goalie. Some were missing. And he manage it without good center. Like any potential scoring winger he must manage a lot shouts and find opportunities for it and score about 12-18%. Dont forget about his Covid break before WJC. Yeah but he's supposed to be a sniper. Which means a player that when in good position can put it in more often than not. What he was and what you're describing is not a sniper. It's machine gun. You shoot a ton in the general direction of the target not very precisely expecting at least a few shots to hit target Edited July 9, 2021 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I'm slightly ok with a Machine Gun ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, moustic said: I'm slightly ok with a Machine Gun ; ) me too) Put good rebounder on the line. Bams. Profit. Edited July 9, 2021 by Guadana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I don't know... as a Devils fan im kind of personally done with guys "coming close to score but not scoring" or "doing everything right but scoring" or shooting directly in the chest of goalies. So basically Zajac. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I don't know... as a Devils fan im kind of personally done with guys "coming close to score but not scoring" or "doing everything right but scoring" or shooting directly in the chest of goalies. So basically Zacha. Fixed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I don't know... as a Devils fan im kind of personally done with guys "coming close to score but not scoring" or "doing everything right but scoring" or shooting directly in the chest of goalies. So basically Zajac. I’m well past done with that sh!t. Holtz better be something resembling Pavel Bure or he can fvck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I’m well past done with that sh!t. Holtz better be something resembling Pavel Bure or he can fvck off. Me thinks you and I both are going to be disappointed here with Holtz if we don't taper back our expectations a bit. Not attacking you, I'm with you but I just don't think he seems like much of a play driver kinda guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: Me thinks you and I both are going to be disappointed here with Holtz if we don't taper back our expectations a bit. Not attacking you, I'm with you but I just don't think he seems like much of a play driver kinda guy. I was alluding more to Bure’s ability to snipe, not so much play driving necessarily. I just want Holtz to be able to shoot the puck. I’m tired of no one on this team being able to snipe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I was alluding more to Bure’s ability to snipe, not so much play driving necessarily. I just want Holtz to be able to shoot the puck. I’m tired of no one on this team being able to snipe. Throw beaucoup bucks at Ovechkin. Just kidding. There's no way he would come here. He would never reach 895 on the Devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: Throw beaucoup bucks at Ovechkin. Just kidding. There's no way he would come here. He would never reach 895 on the Devils Even if he was at 875. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Well i just don't understand your comment? lol You literally said, "Kids that skate like he does (especially with some size at 6’2), don’t really need to rely on name recognition. Luke would be a top pick regardless." That's sort of suggesting that if you can skate really well, that alone s hould get you at the top of the draft selection? I mean, literally ALL his scouting reports starts by mentioning his brothers. So to say that's not boosting his perception is just not true Not sure what’s hard to understand. It’s his best aspect of his game, but ofc it’s not the only thing he does well. Or he wouldn’t be a consensus top 10 pick. A name might get the scouts watching out for you, but it’s not getting you drafted that high. Still need to actually be…you know…really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 team eklund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: Obviously scoring isn’t everything when you are a defenseman, but that’s intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 This draft is so wild. https://www.nhl.com/news/2021-nhl-draft-simon-edvinsson-vs-luke-hughes/c-325551122 In this article, 8 out of 10 scouts preferred Edvinsson to Hughes. I'm trying to not get attached to any one (or 3) players, because for all we know, the Devils are targeting Guenther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: I mean, their dad straight up said Luke is better than Quinn was at that age. Could be just a case of him talking up his son that’s yet to be drafted, but there could also be some truth to it… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nicomo said: I mean, their dad straight up said Luke is better than Quinn was at that age. Could be just a case of him talking up his son that’s yet to be drafted, but there could also be some truth to it… I get that their dad has some hockey qualifications, but that’s not really the most reliable source of information regarding their talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: I get that their dad has some hockey qualifications, but that’s not really the most reliable source of information regarding their talent. come on man, the car salesman told me the newest model that was being marketed was the best one yet and I couldn't find a better car anywhere are you insinuating he wasn't an unbiased source? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, titans04 said: come on man, the car salesman told me the newest model that was being marketed was the best one yet and I couldn't find a better car anywhere are you insinuating he wasn't an unbiased source? Exactly this. Also, everyone knows that parents have “a favorite”. I can’t trust his opinion as being unbiased when speaking about his own children. If you don’t think your parents have a favorite, then it’s probably because you’re the favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 want a fair and unbiased assessment of his skills, change his last name, otherwise it's going to be biased because Jack is here. Rather unfortunate that it could possibly impact who they choose in the draft, they should certainly go after the best player available to plug the many gaps they have. Being the brother of Jack shouldn't even be taken into consideration, when the team has so many holes. They need to get the best one out there that's available, a Hughes or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, titans04 said: want a fair and unbiased assessment of his skills, change his last name, otherwise it's going to be biased because Jack is here. Rather unfortunate that it could possibly impact who they choose in the draft, they should certainly go after the best player available to plug the many gaps they have. Being the brother of Jack shouldn't even be taken into consideration, when the team has so many holes. They need to get the best one out there that's available, a Hughes or not. Agreed. The concept that we should pick Luke because we should be worried about what Jack will do in free agency years down the road is troubling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: I get that their dad has some hockey qualifications, but that’s not really the most reliable source of information regarding their talent. Which I stated in my post… but anyway it’s not an unreasonable opinion. As the above tweet points out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Eklund, Clarke, and Hughes all happen to have ties to NJ but they're all projected as consensus high picks. I don't have any doubt whoever is picked at #4 is going to be picked because they're seen as BPA, not because of their name. I haven't seen anyone outside the Facebook/Twitter realm seriously arguing to take Hughes because of Jack, but even if that was the case it isn't like NJ would be reaching 15 picks too early to do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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