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  1. 1. Who do you want at #4?

    • Luke Hughes
    • Brandt Clarke
    • William Eklund
    • Matthew Beniers
    • Simon Edvinsson
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14 minutes ago, MB3 said:

The more I read about Edvinsson the more I love Edvinsson. And, to that extent, if we're not going defense Guenther is the exact type of player this franchise needs.

If the Devils love Hughes/Clarke and they're both off the board, trading into the low-end of the top-10 and scooping an extra 2nd round pick is probably a pretty great move to make. 

i keep reading that Edvinsson constantly make dumb decisions with his passes and just throw the puck away constantly. That sounds like something that'd make us punch walls in the long run

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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

i keep reading that Edvinsson constantly make dumb decisions with his passes and just throw the puck away constantly. That sounds like something that'd make us punch walls in the long run

Or, it sounds like something that would make him fit right in. 

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

i keep reading that Edvinsson constantly make dumb decisions with his passes and just throw the puck away constantly. That sounds like something that'd make us punch walls in the long run

Jack Hughes does this too, though -- I'm sure most 17 year olds do. 

I really want Hughes but reading about his shot is depressing as hell. It's like Jack's... but...... slower. Eek. 

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4 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Jack Hughes does this too, though -- I'm sure most 17 year olds do. 

Jack definitely improved on this during this past season, which gives some credence to the fact that it is a problem that can go away with age and experience. 

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4 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Jack Hughes does this too, though -- I'm sure most 17 year olds do. 

I really want Hughes but reading about his shot is depressing as hell. It's like Jack's... but...... slower. Eek. 

hum not sure it's the same thing haha Jack constantly hold on to the puck and make great passes

This dude tracked a few of his game and had things to say about it

 

 

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I think that trading up with Anaheim to draft Luke (if he’s still there) would send an important message to Jack and the core of the team that Fitzgerald/management believes in this core and are making the necessary moves to try and keep them together long term. 

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Ok, so I am going to go with all of the advice in this thread, which is either draft Hughes at #4, or don’t, or trade up or trade down. 

Basically anything other than trading the pick for a player rather than picks in return. Although...

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18 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Ok, so I am going to go with all of the advice in this thread, which is either draft Hughes at #4, or don’t, or trade up or trade down. 

Basically anything other than trading the pick for a player rather than picks in return. Although...

Trade up, pick Hughes, stay at 4, pick Hughes.  Let's keep Jack happy?  Is  either Clarke or Hughes as good (and have the same impact) as Makar?  Everyone that writes about a specific individual, taylors it to fit their narrative, so If they want Hughes, they find fault with Clarke, Edvinsson etc. I "heard" he sucks breaking out, makes poor decisions.

When Fitz announces the pick, we all will saying-"brilliant". and then talk about the one that got away.

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3 hours ago, vadvlfan said:

Trade up, pick Hughes, stay at 4, pick Hughes.  Let's keep Jack happy?  Is  either Clarke or Hughes as good (and have the same impact) as Makar?  Everyone that writes about a specific individual, taylors it to fit their narrative, so If they want Hughes, they find fault with Clarke, Edvinsson etc. I "heard" he sucks breaking out, makes poor decisions.

When Fitz announces the pick, we all will saying-"brilliant". and then talk about the one that got away.

What we should really do is draft Luke and immediately trade him to Vancouver lol. 

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2 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

What we should really do is draft Like and immediately trade him to Vancouver lol. 

For Quinn

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59 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

For Quinn

Now you made it make sense. I would do that in a heartbeat. The trade is one for one. 

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16 hours ago, MB3 said:

The more I read about Edvinsson the more I love Edvinsson. And, to that extent, if we're not going defense Guenther is the exact type of player this franchise needs.

If the Devils love Hughes/Clarke and they're both off the board, trading into the low-end of the top-10 and scooping an extra 2nd round pick is probably a pretty great move to make. 

I can say I like Edvinsson more than Hughes, but devils are in brothers story situation. We don’t have any option. And if somehow they will gone, devils will draft beniers. 
 

I really hope Fitz will draft Clarke. He is closer to be BPA, but if Fitz think they are both on the same level, Clarke is more what we need than left defenseman. Especially when we have Smith on the left side.

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10 hours ago, Guadana said:

I can say I like Edvinsson more than Hughes, but devils are in brothers story situation. We don’t have any option. And if somehow they will gone, devils will draft beniers. 
 

I really hope Fitz will draft Clarke. He is closer to be BPA, but if Fitz think they are both on the same level, Clarke is more what we need than left defenseman. Especially when we have Smith on the left side.

This is the way I see it too. If it isn't Power, Clarke, or Hughes, it has got to be Beniers. I like Edvinsson's ceiling, but it's so tough to tell what his chance of getting there is.

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13 hours ago, Guadana said:

I can say I like Edvinsson more than Hughes, but devils are in brothers story situation. We don’t have any option. And if somehow they will gone, devils will draft beniers. 
 

I really hope Fitz will draft Clarke. He is closer to be BPA, but if Fitz think they are both on the same level, Clarke is more what we need than left defenseman. Especially when we have Smith on the left side.

By now i must have read all the possible scouting reports i could find online and watched all the videos i could find and i just feel like there's not as many knocks on Clarke than on Hughes and Edvinsson. Actually the only knock on Clarke appears to be that he can get caught by being too aggressive at times and that he's not the best skater but still really good. Really high hockey IQ too.

From what ive seen Hughes and Edvinsson both appears to be struggling with their decision making a lot. 

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3 hours ago, nessus said:

This is the way I see it too. If it isn't Power, Clarke, or Hughes, it has got to be Beniers. I like Edvinsson's ceiling, but it's so tough to tell what his chance of getting there is.

i think i'd rather go with Guenther than beniers cause i think they are close in talent but our need on the wing is certainly greater than down the middle.

That being said Beniers played with Jack Hughes and Oliver Wahlstrom on the U18 USNTDP’s top line.

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Do all of you guys really watch video of these guys and follow this stuff this closely? Or do you just read what other people’s opinions are? 

I am amazed by how in detail some of you guys get into this stuff. 

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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Do all of you guys really watch video of these guys and follow this stuff this closely? Or do you just read what other people’s opinions are? 

I am amazed by how in detail some of you guys get into this stuff. 

I'm with you, I know Power from the recent world tournaments and I'll usually remember a couple of names from the guys who played at the world juniors but other than that I don't follow this stuff. 

Power won't be available at our spot so I want Hughes if he's available. Simply basing that off cause Jack is here already and Quinn is fantastic so there's clearly some good hockey genes in that family. 

Don't know sh!t about the rest of these guys lol

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5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I'm with you, I know Power from the recent world tournaments and I'll usually remember a couple of names from the guys who played at the world juniors but other than that I don't follow this stuff. 

Power won't be available at our spot so I want Hughes if he's available. Simply basing that off cause Jack is here already and Quinn is fantastic so there's clearly some good hockey genes in that family. 

Don't know sh!t about the rest of these guys lol

If all of these guys who give out these opinions on draft prospects are doing so of their own knowledge, that’s impressive dedication. 

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4 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Do all of you guys really watch video of these guys and follow this stuff this closely? Or do you just read what other people’s opinions are? 

I am amazed by how in detail some of you guys get into this stuff. 

i usually go through literally all the videos i can find on all top prospects in our reach. May sound like a lot but it's not that bad. Go through all the mock drafts ranking from all the sites i can find, scouting sites, read all the reports and all the standings. I almost check every day too to see if there's new ones. I also try to read other message boards to see what other fanbases are saying about prospects to get a sense of what they are targeting, etc

When i have time i also usually go and look at past years who was right and who was wrong about prospects rankings and projections. But more often than not i forget from one year to another.

 

 

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16 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Do all of you guys really watch video of these guys and follow this stuff this closely? Or do you just read what other people’s opinions are? 

I am amazed by how in detail some of you guys get into this stuff. 

Khl\vhl\mhl games, some ncaa games, some qjmhl games, shl and allsvenskan, couple of liiga games, some games from world tournaments, shift by shift videos. I watch some reviews on youtube ofcourse, but I cant say i`m absolutely agree with any youtubers. Everybody has their own priority in ranks. Me too.

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22 minutes ago, Guadana said:

Khl\vhl\mhl games, some ncaa games, some qjmhl games, shl and allsvenskan, couple of liiga games, some games from world tournaments, shift by shift videos. I watch some reviews on youtube ofcourse, but I cant say i`m absolutely agree with any youtubers. Everybody has their own priority in ranks. Me too.

You definitely come across as knowledgeable on this stuff, all of that explains why. 

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8 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

You definitely come across as knowledgeable on this stuff, all of that explains why. 

I think next year I won't be following hockey so closely outside of the NHL. The last two years of hockey world took a lot of my time and energy. fvck it)

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18 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

By now i must have read all the possible scouting reports i could find online and watched all the videos i could find and i just feel like there's not as many knocks on Clarke than on Hughes and Edvinsson. Actually the only knock on Clarke appears to be that he can get caught by being too aggressive at times and that he's not the best skater but still really good. Really high hockey IQ too.

From what ive seen Hughes and Edvinsson both appears to be struggling with their decision making a lot. 

Knocks on Edvinsov doesnt knock in defensive door. Anyway all three will impact players, I think. Question is what`s kind of impact we really need in.
 

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2 hours ago, Guadana said:

Knocks on Edvinsov doesnt knock in defensive door. Anyway all three will impact players, I think. Question is what`s kind of impact we really need in.
 

what do you mean by that exactly?

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