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  1. 1. Who do you want at #4?

    • Luke Hughes
    • Brandt Clarke
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18 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I have to think Graeme (or however he spells it) might see some games in Jersey this year. Training camp should be interesting

Sounds like it (from an Athletic article about him)


I think he probably would be the first player I’d bring up in terms of what we took out of this year’s American League season,” said New Jersey assistant general manager Dan MacKinnon. “There were a lot of positives. You look at the record with 35 games, but that doesn’t really tell the whole story. By design, this was an opportunity to get a lot of our young prospects reps at the American League level, an extremely tough league.


The one player we’ve all been talking about is Graeme Clarke,” Devils general manager Tom Fitzgerald said. “He’s a very smart player. Lots of skill. Gets to the inside. He’s got good speed. He’s grown, not that he was small. There’s a lot to like about his game and seeing that at this level is really exciting.” 

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40 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Smart answer, Luke. 

I have to think Graeme (or however he spells it) might see some games in Jersey this year. Training camp should be interesting

That would be a Huge camp. Holtz, Mercer. Clarke and Foote, who spent their time in AHL pretty well. Okhotyuk and Vukoevic didn`t play worser than Bahl. They will try to overplay him in camp. I trully believe some guys will make a step forward under new Ruff`s regime after this summer. I dont think Ruff will bring stanley cup in new ark, but I think he will help to develope our young core. And I think Maltsev and Boqvist will wrestle for 3rd\4th line center spot. Everybody getting grown up, but no one getting older. Young team that is only getting better.

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2 hours ago, Guadana said:

I dont think Ruff will bring stanley cup in new ark

Now I want them to carry the Stanley Cup around in an ark. 

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15 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

We're making this big stink about which D man Devils will take at 4.  They're taking a forward. Thank you!😀

My hope is that we’ll take the BPA, whoever Fitz and the scouts feel that is, regardless of position. 

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Found this on a Red Wings news site:

 

”Might the Devils, with the fourth pick, unite brothers Jack and Luke?

“I’ve been to the rink; I know the franchise pretty well,” Luke said. “Jack loves it in New Jersey. Really cool rink, really cool fanbase.

“It would be unbelievable to go to the Devils. My brother clearly wants me to be there. It would be super-cool to play with him. At the same time, there’s 32 great teams and I’d be happy to go to any one of those teams.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlive.com/redwings/2021/07/red-wings-could-have-shot-at-another-hughes-brother-d-man-luke.html%3foutputType=amp

 

Gotta draft Luke, I’m sorry. At the very least we’ll know someone on the team will be ready and able to take a pass from Jack.

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8 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I just don’t see a case for taking him over Hughes at all

This is scouching. He ranked Sanderson 10th or worser year ago. And look at him.


I can’t say Clarke is a great skater. But he is good skater. Just spend time and watch his shift by shift video. And let’s go and watchin Luke shift by shift video. I don’t ask to watch full games.

But I did watching games of Clarke.. Clarke is far… far better defenseman. He makes great impact in offensive zone. And he is pretty good in center and in defensive zone.
Hughes is absolutely great skater,and I really love good skating. But that’s all. He played in much worser competition league and can’t defense. He don’t understand how to move his body when breakaways are goin on. He isn’t good board fighter. And I can’t say he is good in playmaking. He is pretty good skater and puckhandler, but I didn’t see any good sharp pass from him. 
Edvinsson is good skater as Hughes. He is good puckhandler enough, but he is pretty good enough defenseman and shows it on different level. and his lack of offensive is overrated, because he was best u18 defenseman this year in Allsvenskan. Year ago he was top1-2 defenseman on the junior level. He has real potential to be a better defenseman of this top-4. 
Hughes was never top-5 pick if he was Luke Smith or Luke White. He has enough of red flags and he will be pretty good offensive defenseman, but we have one on the left side, and if we remember all of finalists in the last five years - there were no team with two or three puckmoving defenseman with no good defensive ability.

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59 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

My hope is that we’ll take the BPA, whoever Fitz and the scouts feel that is, regardless of position. 

Agreed. 

 

In 2016 we all felt we needed a forward and it seemed like management agreed.  This is the one time I felt like we really got caught because we had tunnel vision on the forwards.  My recollection is that there was generally considered to be a talent drop after the top 11 but all the forwards were taken and Chychrun was the one who fell to us.  How much better would the back end look if we had just taken Chychrun instead of settling for the next best forward on our scouts list?   It only took a week for things to completely change after we sent Larsson to Edmonton 1 for 1      

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The guys at the top of this draft are all so close it would be really hard to determine BPA. Even for #1OA (I’m seeing more talk of that being Beniers now). You almost have to factor in need when it’s that tight. 

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55 minutes ago, Guadana said:

Hughes was never top-5 pick if he was Luke Smith or Luke White.

You watch a lot more of these guys than most of us, so I always value your opinion, but I disagree with this part. Kids that skate like he does (especially with some size at 6’2), don’t really need to rely on name recognition. Luke would be a top pick regardless. 

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1 hour ago, Guadana said:

Hughes was never top-5 pick if he was Luke Smith or Luke White.

Fvck, now we have to draft Ty Smith and Colton White’s brothers too??

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11 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

You watch a lot more of these guys than most of us, so I always value your opinion, but I disagree with this part. Kids that skate like he does (especially with some size at 6’2), don’t really need to rely on name recognition. Luke would be a top pick regardless. 

skating is just one part of the game though. 

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4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

skating is just one part of the game though. 

Well no sh!t. 

3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

What about elite skating tho?

You really need some new material. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

You really need some new material. 

Nope, I’d say the old material is working just as anticipated lol. 

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37 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Well no sh!t. 

Well i just don't understand your comment? lol

You literally said, "Kids that skate like he does (especially with some size at 6’2), don’t really need to rely on name recognition. Luke would be a top pick regardless." That's sort of suggesting that if you can skate really well, that alone s hould get you at the top of the draft selection?

I mean, literally ALL his scouting reports starts by mentioning his brothers. So to say that's not boosting his perception is just not true

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22 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Well i just don't understand your comment? lol

You literally said, "Kids that skate like he does (especially with some size at 6’2), don’t really need to rely on name recognition. Luke would be a top pick regardless." That's sort of suggesting that if you can skate really well, that alone s hould get you at the top of the draft selection?

I mean, literally ALL his scouting reports starts by mentioning his brothers. So to say that's not boosting his perception is just not true

And of course, among our fans, his familial relationship is paramount in why we should choose him. 

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8 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

If Scoutching says Luke is better then we should take him.  Case closed.  End of Story.  Period.  /s

Scoutching actually said we really shouldn't draft Luke. Or at least said it when he did his mock draft a few weeks ago. He said he was a really risky pick

He had us taking Eklund actually

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I just can’t wait until it’s over and we can go from debating which guy we should take to complaining about which guy we took. 

I have a bad feeling that it will be like last year where i had a few guys i wanted. A few were available to us and literally the last guy i wanted on my list ended up being our pick. I kind of feel this year might be the same where i have to kind of make an effort to love the pick and would have prefered someone else. But wtv, our scouts know a lot more than I do.

Well at least when it comes to hockey prospects. I know more about Jean-Claude Van Damme than all of them combined.

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