Devil Dan 56 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Nicely build contract that gives Hamilton his money, keeps the cap hit high and the actual pay low at the end. Perfect for unloading if things go sour at the tail end. Edited July 29, 2021 by Devil Dan 56 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I guess there's a live event with Hamilton answering question on fb. But Bob McKenzie didnt tweet about it so i dont know if i should believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I guess there's a live event with Hamilton answering question on fb. But Bob McKenzie didnt tweet about it so i dont know if i should believe it Youtube. Live at the moment. Edited July 29, 2021 by Aitchmack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Did anyone ask him who lives, who dies, who tells his story? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicomo Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Aitchmack said: Youtube. Live at the moment. I haven’t watched this yet but I heard he gave Marty a lot of credit for selling him on NJ. And I know Bernier said the same thing. I absolutely love having Marty in the FO. He obviously brings a lot of respect (and always will), which can only help having a very green GM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I can't wait for the season to start.... who care about his defense, guys always entering or already in the offensive zone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Nicomo said: I haven’t watched this yet but I heard he gave Marty a lot of credit for selling him on NJ. And I know Bernier said the same thing. I absolutely love having Marty in the FO. He obviously brings a lot of respect (and always will), which can only help having a very green GM. Yeah Marty definitely brings credibility, no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Yeah Marty definitely brings credibility, no doubt about it. Some people think he was good at hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: Some people think he was good at hockey. Meh. He was okay. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, mfitz804 said: Some people think he was good at hockey. I follow a few goalie pages and its incredible how many people drag Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: I follow a few goalie pages and its incredible how many people drag Marty. There’s fans in our fan base that do. What goalie pages are you talking about? Anything that would help me with my puck project? Edited July 30, 2021 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: I follow a few goalie pages and its incredible how many people drag Marty. It’s unbelievable that the winningest goalie of all time could actually be underrated by large factions of supposedly knowledgeable hockey fans. But he is in my experience. So many people think it was all the defense in front of him. Like he never won two Vezina’s after Stevens and Niedermayer were gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The biggest issue I have with the whole Brodeur "anti-GOAT" critique, per se, isn't the fact that 90% of the time, people are comparing him to Roy and his cups and wins per total games; I think the more intriguing comparison is Brodeur vs Hasek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nicomo said: It’s unbelievable that the winningest goalie of all time could actually be underrated by large factions of supposedly knowledgeable hockey fans. But he is in my experience. So many people think it was all the defense in front of him. Like he never won two Vezina’s after Stevens and Niedermayer were gone. The Devils won a Stanley Cup almost immediately upon his arrival, and came pretty close the year before that. One could argue that the team never had more than marginal success before or after him. Granted, he was here a lot of years, but what did the team accomplish from 1982-92 and 2014-present? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: The Devils won a Stanley Cup almost immediately upon his arrival, and came pretty close the year before that. One could argue that the team never had more than marginal success before or after him. Granted, he was here a lot of years, but what did the team accomplish from 1982-92 and 2014-present? Well sure, buts that not really what I’m talking about. Many non-Devils fans think the Cups were 100% the defense and the trap. Like any decent goalie could have been in there. It’s super annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Well sure, buts that not really what I’m talking about. Many non-Devils fans think the Cups were 100% the defense and the trap. Like any decent goalie could have been in there. It’s super annoying. Fvck those idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewskies Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. Way to go Fitz Let's Go Devils 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Brewskies said: I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. Way to go Fitz Let's Go Devils Too many brewskies? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nicomo said: Well sure, buts that not really what I’m talking about. Many non-Devils fans think the Cups were 100% the defense and the trap. Like any decent goalie could have been in there. It’s super annoying. They are either A: not very bright, or B: they actually know better and just hate the Devils. Either way, as mfitz said, fvck those morons. Edited July 30, 2021 by MadDog2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Brewskies said: I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. Way to go Fitz Let's Go Devils Hope all is well man. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: They are either A: not very bright, or B: they actually know better and just hate the Devils. Either way, as mfitz said, fvck those morons. I definitely think it’s more the latter. Hell, just the amount of hate I saw online over the Hamilton signing was ridiculous. You listen to half these people Dougie is one of the most overrated players in the league and we’re going to end up regretting the deal two years in. I have a feeling if that exact same contract was given out by a more popular franchise there would be a very different reception. Anyway, fvck em indeed. Let them hate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Brewskies said: I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. Way to go Fitz Let's Go Devils Hope you’re doing ok. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Nicomo said: I definitely think it’s more the latter. Hell, just the amount of hate I saw online over the Hamilton signing was ridiculous. You listen to half these people Dougie is one of the most overrated players in the league and we’re going to end up regretting the deal two years in. I have a feeling if that exact same contract was given out by a more popular franchise there would be a very different reception. Anyway, fvck em indeed. Let them hate. There's ALWAYS the chance that these long-term deals can go horribly wrong, but if given to do over again, under all of the same exact circumstances, I sign Hamilton to the same exact deal 10 times out of 10. He's still relatively young (Devils are paying for his Age 28-34 years), and if the Devils get four years of still-in-or-close-to-his-prime Hamilton, followed by two or three decline-but-decent years, I'll consider that a good ROI. The knock I keep hearing (from other teams' fans of course) is "If he's so great, why is he already on his fourth team?" I know the first time, Boston had cap issues and he was a RFA the Bruins couldn't afford to pay, and Boston was able to get some pieces back for him (from Calgary)...a first-rounder and two second rounders (hasn't worked out so well for the Bruins...none of those picks have turned out to be much). As for Calgary, there's this (see below), but I still wouldn't read this and ever think "OMG, the Devils just signed a complete headcase, what are we gonna do?!" If he was such a PITA, Carolina's not willing to go 8 years for him. I still think it's 1000% the right move and I'm glad he's here. Personal issues regarding Dougie Hamilton emerge in wake of huge trade - NHL News - HockeyFeed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Yeah i mean IF i want to be fair and not incredibly hypocritical. i did call that Subban at 9m was reaaaally overpaid considering he was strictly an offensive guy and sucked defensively. The market prices went up a bit since but if the claims that Hamilton is also just an offensive stud and struggle a lot defensively. As this graphic would suggest. Then yeah 9m is a bit expensive and i'd happily pay that for a hedman, doughty kind of 2way stud. Or if the player is insanely gifted offensively where it's compensating for the lack of defense like say... ovechkin or wtv up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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