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7 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Well sure, buts that not really what I’m talking about. Many non-Devils fans think the Cups were 100% the defense and the trap. Like any decent goalie could have been in there. It’s super annoying. 

They are either A: not very bright, or B: they actually know better and just hate the Devils. Either way, as mfitz said, fvck those morons. 

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2 hours ago, Brewskies said:

I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. 

 

Way to go Fitz

 

Let's Go Devils

Hope all is well man.

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1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

They are either A: not very bright, or B: they actually know better and just hate the Devils. Either way, as mfitz said, fvck those morons. 

I definitely think it’s more the latter. Hell, just the amount of hate I saw online over the Hamilton signing was ridiculous. You listen to half these people Dougie is one of the most overrated players in the league and we’re going to end up regretting the deal two years in. I have a feeling if that exact same contract was given out by a more popular franchise there would be a very different reception. Anyway, fvck em indeed. Let them hate. 

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6 hours ago, Brewskies said:

I was in the hospital Wednesday and Thursday, so I missed the announcements of the Devils' trades and signings. I am so glad to see that they made moves to improve the rebuild of the goaltending and the defense. 

 

Way to go Fitz

 

Let's Go Devils

Hope you’re doing ok. 

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2 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I definitely think it’s more the latter. Hell, just the amount of hate I saw online over the Hamilton signing was ridiculous. You listen to half these people Dougie is one of the most overrated players in the league and we’re going to end up regretting the deal two years in. I have a feeling if that exact same contract was given out by a more popular franchise there would be a very different reception. Anyway, fvck em indeed. Let them hate. 

There's ALWAYS the chance that these long-term deals can go horribly wrong, but if given to do over again, under all of the same exact circumstances, I sign Hamilton to the same exact deal 10 times out of 10.  He's still relatively young (Devils are paying for his Age 28-34 years), and if the Devils get four years of still-in-or-close-to-his-prime Hamilton, followed by two or three decline-but-decent years, I'll consider that a good ROI.

The knock I keep hearing (from other teams' fans of course) is "If he's so great, why is he already on his fourth team?"  I know the first time, Boston had cap issues and he was a RFA the Bruins couldn't afford to pay, and Boston was able to get some pieces back for him (from Calgary)...a first-rounder and two second rounders (hasn't worked out so well for the Bruins...none of those picks have turned out to be much). 

As for Calgary, there's this (see below), but I still wouldn't read this and ever think "OMG, the Devils just signed a complete headcase, what are we gonna do?!"  If he was such a PITA, Carolina's not willing to go 8 years for him.  I still think it's 1000% the right move and I'm glad he's here.

Personal issues regarding Dougie Hamilton emerge in wake of huge trade - NHL News - HockeyFeed

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Yeah i mean IF i want to be fair and not incredibly hypocritical. i did call that Subban at 9m was reaaaally overpaid considering he was strictly an offensive guy and sucked defensively. The market prices went up a bit since but if the claims that Hamilton is also just an offensive stud and struggle a lot defensively. As this graphic would suggest. Then yeah 9m is a bit expensive and i'd happily pay that for a hedman, doughty kind of 2way stud. Or if the player is insanely gifted offensively where it's compensating for the lack of defense like say... ovechkin or wtv up front. 

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@SterioDesign, I think the previous two years, his defense rating was much higher...I forget where I saw that, but if that's the case, then last season could've been more of an outlier.  

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3 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I definitely think it’s more the latter. Hell, just the amount of hate I saw online over the Hamilton signing was ridiculous. You listen to half these people Dougie is one of the most overrated players in the league and we’re going to end up regretting the deal two years in. I have a feeling if that exact same contract was given out by a more popular franchise there would be a very different reception. Anyway, fvck em indeed. Let them hate. 

I love the hate. I don’t wanna be liked. I want every last one of these dipsh!ts to choke on the sh!tburgers we start serving them in October. And then I wanna laugh at them while letting them know that whoever their team is can choke on a dick, who the fvck used to run this league, and who is about to be running sh!t again real fvcking soon.

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7 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

@SterioDesign, I think the previous two years, his defense rating was much higher...I forget where I saw that, but if that's the case, then last season could've been more of an outlier.  

Yup and it's possible he'll be fine. But again, im just covering all my angles here not to be an hypocrite. Cause Subban's defense also took a dive that last year in nashville and i brought that up lol

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12 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

There’s fans in our fan base that do. 

What goalie pages are you talking about? Anything that would help me with my puck project?

They are just basically "hey remember this guy? Check out this setup he wore in 1993" kind of posts mostly for goalies from the 80's and 90's. I doubt they could help but it's worth a shot. One of them is NHL Goalies Past And Present 

A lot of terrible hot takes but some great throwback pictures

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Subban was also older when the Devils acquired him.  And his game has always been scary, as far as some of his decisions/instincts go. 

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6 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Subban was also older when the Devils acquired him.  And his game has always been scary, as far as some of his decisions/instincts go. 

yeah that was the biggest thing for me. Subban was never a "smart" player. Those guys can age well more, like Elias, Pronger, etc etc He's still to this day making plays that dmen learn not to make in juniors or even peewee lol

Guys who requirer to be a working horse to get results like say.... Clarkson or Woods... those guys don't age as well when the body is falling apart. 

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3 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

@SterioDesign, I think the previous two years, his defense rating was much higher...I forget where I saw that, but if that's the case, then last season could've been more of an outlier.  

His biggest drop-off last season was the PK   which from 96 to to 19....  

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2 hours ago, aylbert said:

His biggest drop-off last season was the PK   which from 96 to to 19....  

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I refuse to get too high about his PP prowess or low about his (supposed) PK deficiencies when those two things are so inherently scheme/system-based. 

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The thing I expect Hamilton to help with the most is sustained pressure into the offensive zone after guys like Jack or Bratt carry the puck in. WAY too often last year one of those two would make a clean entry only to have no support trailing. This was often when Jack would just try the miracle passes that seldom found another Devil. Now we’re going to have one of the best in the league back there. 

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10 hours ago, Brewskies said:

Base line keeps moving towards worse. Thanks for the thought.

Pulling for you brother, hoping things change for the better soon!

 

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