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30 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

It’s really not asking for very much. Hire a non-dinosaur for HC (and get rid of a guy who’s been here far too long), and give us league average goaltending. 

I’m not demanding he go out and sign Filip Forsberg at all cost, or trade for some top tier goalie or anything like that. Pretty reasonable expectations all things considered. 

It’s not, but I suspect it’s not going to happen, at least not all of it. You’re probably getting Blackwood and Bernier if both are ready to go. And the coaches should be fired multiple times over at this point so I’m skeptical. 

You might have a better chance at Forsberg than a clean sweep of the coaching staff AND the goalies. 

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Haven't looked at the standings for ages because why would a Devils fan need to look at the standings in April. 

Montréal are only 5 points behind us. Just 5. A team that was looking historically bad at one point. 

I think someone posted on Twitter (could have been Shayna Goldman) that if the Devils had average goaltending this season they could have 9 more wins. That is still 12 points outside of a wildcard spot. 

I really don't see how Fitzgerald can keep this coaching team around and look to improve or challenge for that wildcard spot next season. 

I can understand not making a change now. He has left it too late. The market for replacements is non existent right now, and taking the closest available option will fvck up a potentially successful Utica season. But a week after our season has ended I want to see the entire coaching staff gone. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

Haven't looked at the standings for ages because why would a Devils fan need to look at the standings in April. 

Montréal are only 5 points behind us. Just 5. A team that was looking historically bad at one point. 

I think someone posted on Twitter (could have been Shayna Goldman) that if the Devils had average goaltending this season they could have 9 more wins. That is still 12 points outside of a wildcard spot. 

I really don't see how Fitzgerald can keep this coaching team around and look to improve or challenge for that wildcard spot next season. 

I can understand not making a change now. He has left it too late. The market for replacements is non existent right now, and taking the closest available option will fvck up a potentially successful Utica season. But a week after our season has ended I want to see the entire coaching staff gone. 

 

I 100% believe that a fully healthy team plus a completely new coaching staff put us in a significantly better position. 

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45 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

It’s not, but I suspect it’s not going to happen, at least not all of it. You’re probably getting Blackwood and Bernier if both are ready to go. And the coaches should be fired multiple times over at this point so I’m skeptical. 

That goaltending duo isn’t necessarily a bad thing considering neither played healthy this year. It’s possible with better defense and coaching, that’s a fine tandem. Unfortunately there’s no way to find out until October since Bernier is done for the year and I’m assuming we won’t be seeing Blackwood either. 

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Just now, Devil Dan 56 said:

That goaltending duo isn’t necessarily a bad thing considering neither played healthy this year. It’s possible with better defense and coaching, that’s a fine tandem. Unfortunately there’s no way to find out until October since Bernier is done for the year and I’m assuming we won’t be seeing Blackwood either. 

I don’t disagree, but he’s not going to be happy with that. 

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I don’t disagree, but he’s not going to be happy with that. 

I’m not sure I will be either, but if both are healthy it’s a tough spot. Bernier played well in Detroit on some terrible teams and Blackwood has shown potential at times. It’s hard to get rid of both or even one. Bernier has over 4 million coming off a hip injury so who takes him and Blackwood fairly young in the goalie side of things. 

You’re a goalie guy, you know how some of their development tracks can be. I don’t think Schneider was a regular starter until he was 26 and he was great for a few years.  

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You can’t bank on both those guys bouncing back and being reliable for a full season. I personally think Bernier is probably done. He’ll be 34 when next season starts, and hip issues at that age - at that position? Yikes. 

I’m fine with Blackwood being back. We just need someone else to split starts with him.

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1 minute ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I’m not sure I will be either, but if both are healthy it’s a tough spot. Bernier played well in Detroit on some terrible teams and Blackwood has shown potential at times. It’s hard to get rid of both or even one. Bernier has over 4 million coming off a hip injury so who takes him and Blackwood fairly young in the goalie side of things. 

You’re a goalie guy, you know how some of their development tracks can be. I don’t think Schneider was a regular starter until he was 26 and he was great for a few years.  

If they’re both healthy we are guaranteed to see one or both next season. Even if Blackwood can be moved, it’s not always easy to do that coming off a major injury. Same with Bernier, but at a higher salary. 

I don’t expect Bernier will be healthy, but I could be surprised. 

Schneider was a great goalie for us, then he got hurt and that was that. Unfortunate but that’s how things play out at times. 

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

You can’t bank on both those guys bouncing back and being reliable for a full season. I personally think Bernier is probably done. He’ll be 34 when next season starts, and hip issues at that age - at that position? Yikes. 

I’m fine with Blackwood being back. We just need someone else to split starts with him.

Definitely agree on Bernier, for reasons stated. I’ve pretty much been resolved to the fact that he’s not playing again at this age with that injury. Maybe if he was on the Lightning he might be motivated, but if you are so-so with the injury, do you really want to come back to play backup on a team with no real chance to win? (Assuming, of course, sh!t doesn’t get straightened out and we aren’t suddenly competitive next year). 

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I just looked at the list of free agent goalies that are available, and there are EIGHT former or current Devils goalies on that list. 

Couple of names I might look at depending on price, Vanecek and Husso in particular. 

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42 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

You can’t bank on both those guys bouncing back and being reliable for a full season. I personally think Bernier is probably done. He’ll be 34 when next season starts, and hip issues at that age - at that position? Yikes. 

I’m fine with Blackwood being back. We just need someone else to split starts with him.

I wouldn’t bank on both doing that and I’d be very uncomfortable if that was the duo coming back next year. Unless Bernier retires and goes on LTIR though I just don’t see how you get rid of him. I suppose they could buy out the contract. They have the cap space.

Blackwood definitely gets another year I think unless that relationship really is as damaged as is rumored.  His contract talks will be interesting next summer

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17 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I wouldn’t bank on both doing that and I’d be very uncomfortable if that was the duo coming back next year. Unless Bernier retires and goes on LTIR though I just don’t see how you get rid of him. I suppose they could buy out the contract. They have the cap space.

Blackwood definitely gets another year I think unless that relationship really is as damaged as is rumored.  His contract talks will be interesting next summer

I don’t want to see Blackwood back, to begin with I never thought he was the guy to drive take this ship where it needs to go. After the injurie issues I want him back even less unless he is the new backup. Find a way to get a goalie in the off season. I read on here a bit ago about maybe trying to get someone like knight from Florida for a package. We need to make some type of attempt for a solid starting goalie. Blackwood isn’t going to cut it. 

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1 minute ago, 2ELIAS6 said:

I don’t want to see Blackwood back, to begin with I never thought he was the guy to drive take this ship where it needs to go. After the injurie issues I want him back even less unless he is the new backup. Find a way to get a goalie in the off season. I read on here a bit ago about maybe trying to get someone like knight from Florida for a package. We need to make some type of attempt for a solid starting goalie. Blackwood isn’t going to cut it. 

They aren’t trading Knight. If they were, we should go get him. 

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2 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

They aren’t trading Knight. If they were, we should go get him. 

The cost would be insane. I think Fitz is gonna have to look elsewhere if he’s trying to trade for a goalie. My guess is he tries to see whats happening at the draft. The Devils are probably willing to trade some picks for a solid goalie since they seem to have moved into the next stage of the rebuild 

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Like we saw with the Leafs and Oilers at the trade deadline, I think Fitz has really fvcked himself here in future negotiations because it's blatantly apparent to anyone who's paying attention that the Devils desperately need goaltending.  

Zero leverage right now.  Really curious to see where he manages to go in the offseason, because he cannot trot out Blackwood and Bernier again as others have stated.  

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37 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Like we saw with the Leafs and Oilers at the trade deadline, I think Fitz has really fvcked himself here in future negotiations because it's blatantly apparent to anyone who's paying attention that the Devils desperately need goaltending.  

Zero leverage right now.  Really curious to see where he manages to go in the offseason, because he cannot trot out Blackwood and Bernier again as others have stated.  

In fairness, I don't think Fitz has fvcked himself out of being oblivious or anything like that, re:  his goalies...the Devils have drafted a goalie in just about every draft as of late, and he went for vets that seemed like solid signings at the time, to serve as 1Bs (first Crawford and then Bernier).  Not like he hasn't tried...and like we've been over, when BOTH of your projected starters go down with injury, it's hard to recover...the guys who tend to be available aren't going to move the needle nearly enough (and like you said, teams know that you're desperate and will try to sell you a meh goalie at a higher cost).

But yeah, trying isn't enough...simply gotta hit on just ONE of these moves sometime.  The big key of course is how much do Fitz and Co still believe in Mac?  Both Crawford and Bernier were never tabbed to be here long-term...the hope of course was that Blackwood (a rare homegrown goalie that actually managed to stick with the big club) was going to play well enough during his bridge deal to convince everyone that he was worth committing to as THE goalie of the present and future.  That plan has obviously taken a serious detour...be it due to injury, just not being all that good, whatever, Blackwood's put up an .899 save% since the start of last season and his play has clearly been below average...if Fitz (who seems to be down on him) decides to double-down on him, and we see more of the same...then he's gotta have some kind of recovery plan in-season.  Devils can't punt another year, especially since Jack, Nico, and Bratt have arrived, and other kids are taking steps.  I'm not saying the Devils need to win a Cup next year, but good lord, it can't be "Done again before the New Year, maybe next year" yet again.  

I'd like to see Fitz make a play for Ville Husso myself (I'm assuming that even if Blackwood gets one more chance, Bernier is done, due to breaking down physically)...assuming he actually gets to UFA.  He'd be coming here with a hell of a shot to become an undisputed #1.  Not going to pretend he's a sure thing, but I would take a chance on him.  Devils may have to overpay in years and $$$, but at least they wouldn't have to trade for him.  

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According to Amanda's twitter acct, Jack had imaging done on his knee, and that we could get an update this afternoon.

Definitely not worried about this rest of this season...just hope that he's ready to go in October.  Guess we'll find out soon enough.  

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Elliott again strongly implying that Blackwood and the team are likely heading towards a separation.

So, assuming that takes.. how on God's green earth do you acquire a 1A and 1B for next season?

In more positive news, he says he'd be surprised if Zacha returns.  

In more negative news, he says Bratt should be a prime offer-sheet candidate this offseason.

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4 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Elliott again strongly implying that Blackwood and the team are likely heading towards a separation.

So, assuming that takes.. how on God's green earth do you acquire a 1A and 1B for next season?

In more positive news, he says he'd be surprised if Zacha returns.  

In more negative news, he says Bratt should be a prime offer-sheet candidate this offseason.

There are a number of Free Agent goalies available who were making very little money and are also under 30. Husso, Vanecek, Berube, Lindgren, etc. All were making under $800K. How much does a guy like Husso get in free agency?

If those kind of guys make it to free agency, we should be snapping them up if Blackwood is headed out. Unless we want one of the eight former (including 2 future former) Devils that are on the list: Schneider, Kinkaid, Appelby, Domingue, Wedgewood, Gillies, Hammond, and Dell are all available. 

Bratt should have been extended already. The fact that he isn't is troubling to me, could it be that the team doesn't see his value? Or more likely, could it be that Bratt does see his value and he's looking for more than what the Devils will pay? 

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20 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Elliott again strongly implying that Blackwood and the team are likely heading towards a separation.

So, assuming that takes.. how on God's green earth do you acquire a 1A and 1B for next season?

In more positive news, he says he'd be surprised if Zacha returns.  

In more negative news, he says Bratt should be a prime offer-sheet candidate this offseason.

I’d like to see Blackwood gone, but then we better have something in the works to bring in a real #1 goalie around here and we all know how hard that’s going to be. If they don’t figure out the goalie situation we might as well write off next season now. I’d be thrilled to not watch zacha on this team next year. I don’t care who says what, the guy is irrelevant so let’s stop pretending that he’s Travis Zajac. As far as Bratt goes, they’re going to have to pay him and he deserves it. I feel like offer sheets don’t happen often so id be surprised. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if bratt may want to move on, it seems like maybe the team doesn’t value what he brings to the table, I feel like what he provides is often over looked. 

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22 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

There are a number of Free Agent goalies available who were making very little money and are also under 30. Husso, Vanecek, Berube, Lindgren, etc. All were making under $800K. How much does a guy like Husso get in free agency?

If those kind of guys make it to free agency, we should be snapping them up if Blackwood is headed out. Unless we want one of the eight former (including 2 future former) Devils that are on the list: Schneider, Kinkaid, Appelby, Domingue, Wedgewood, Gillies, Hammond, and Dell are all available. 

Bratt should have been extended already. The fact that he isn't is troubling to me, could it be that the team doesn't see his value? Or more likely, could it be that Bratt does see his value and he's looking for more than what the Devils will pay? 

I'd offer Husso four years for $4 million or so per.  Yes, it's absolutely a risk.  But most goalies are, and I don't want to go into next season with status quo (though it sure doesn't seem like that's going to happen).  Not sure how much I'd want to go after the others.  

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I will never understand why people even waste their time talking about offer sheets. In the last 20 years there’s been like 2 instances of players signing them - and their team’s not matching (Kotkaniemi last year, and Penner way back in 2007). That’s it. 

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3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

I will never understand why people even waste their time talking about offer sheets. In the last 20 years there’s been like 2 instances of players signing them - and their team’s not matching (Kotkaniemi last year, and Penner way back in 2007). That’s it. 

It's probably mostly panic-driven, but in our case there is zero chance we can't afford whatever anyone else is going to offer him. Nobody is offering him $9m and giving us all of the picks that would come along with that. 

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I'd offer Husso four years for $4 million or so per.  Yes, it's absolutely a risk.  But most goalies are, and I don't want to go into next season with status quo (though it sure doesn't seem like that's going to happen).  Not sure how much I'd want to go after the others.  

I think Husso will get some cash. Supposedly Edmonton is going after him this offseason as well

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12 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I think Husso will get some cash. Supposedly Edmonton is going after him this offseason as well

You wonder if St Louis re-signs him, then tries to pawn off Binnington for next to nothing AND picks up some of his salary.  I still wouldn’t want him.

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