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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

The denial in this guy knows no limits lol

Funny he didn't post anything about vaccinated players sidelined because of covid currently. There's quite a few too. But it doesn't fit his narrative obviously. 

No one is denying that there are and will be vaccinated players who are sidelined because of COVID.  No one is saying that the vaccine is a silver bullet that makes you 100% immune from infection (though it reduces your chances of dying or being hospitalized to nearly zero).

The issue is that we have a player who is creating unnecessary drama because he has so far refused to take it.  He is literally only 1 of five now four players in the entire league that doesn't have it and it caused him to be pulled from the last preseason game at the last minute because of the inconclusive test he must now subject himself and others to.  He is also right now, barring any changes, penciled in to missing at least 9 games because of it which for a team that has aspirations of being on the playoff bubble only makes things tougher.

In short, he can do whatever he wants.  However there is no denying he is making things far more complicated for both himself and the team for it.

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3 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

No one is denying that there are and will be vaccinated players who are sidelined because of COVID.  No one is saying that the vaccine is a silver bullet that makes you 100% immune from infection (though it reduces your chances of dying or being hospitalized to nearly zero).

The issue is that we have a player who is creating unnecessary drama because he has so far refused to take it.  He is literally only 1 of five now four players in the entire league that doesn't have it and it caused him to be pulled from the last preseason game at the last minute because of the inconclusive test he must now subject himself and others to.  He is also right now, barring any changes, penciled in to missing at least 9 games because of it which for a team that has aspirations of being on the playoff bubble only makes things tougher.

In short, he can do whatever he wants.  However there is no denying he is making things far more complicated for both himself and the team for it.

Well see this isn't even true at the moment and it's trending for the worst as its going too so right there that speaks to the problem with these conversation. We could likely have a great conversation about this subject somewhere else but not here. 

Thing is this is a very very very complex mixing health, politics, policies, science, etc etc. As soon as you get these things involved, biases, misinformation and all that sh!ts comes in and people get very emotional right away and rationality goes outside the window and everyone want things to be black and white and THEIR stance to be the only acceptable one.

Also I agree that he's making things harder on himself. But he had covid already, he knows all about it, his mom is a health officials and there is studies s howing that natural immunity is more effective long term. So let's put aside our personal opinions on this subject and keep in mind that it's not necessarily Blackwood that is preventing himself from playing those 9 games. It's the restrictions that are preventing him to do that. And again, that discussions falls under the no-no subjects here. That's all im going to say about this as i already said i wouldnt multiple times. At least i have the intention to stop, unlike that other dude who,s in the middle of ALL of them. 

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4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Well see this isn't even true at the moment and it's trending for the worst as its going too so right there that speaks to the problem with these conversation. We could likely have a great conversation about this subject somewhere else but not here. 

Thing is this is a very very very complex mixing health, politics, policies, science, etc etc. As soon as you get these things involved, biases, misinformation and all that sh!ts comes in and people get very emotional right away and rationality goes outside the window and everyone want things to be black and white and THEIR stance to be the only acceptable one.

Also I agree that he's making things harder on himself. But he had covid already, he knows all about it, his mom is a health officials and there is studies s howing that natural immunity is more effective long term. So let's put aside our personal opinions on this subject and keep in mind that it's not necessarily Blackwood that is preventing himself from playing those 9 games. It's the restrictions that are preventing him to do that. And again, that discussions falls under the no-no subjects here. That's all im going to say about this as i already said i wouldnt multiple times. At least i have the intention to stop, unlike that other dude who,s in the middle of ALL of them. 

Yet all but 4 out of the 700+ NHL players have decided to follow the guidelines to prevent those restrictions.  Blackwood isn't ignorant of those restrictions.  These didn't sneak up on him as they have been out for months now.  He knows he cannot play in those games.  He knows he is creating an issue for the team and his teammates.  He know that he is under increased scrutiny.  I am not going to pat him on the back for having his own opinion (which he is entitled to) and I sure as hell not going to do the same for creating this distraction for the team.

Again, if the Devils are wanting to make the playoffs or at least be in the mix, they need to get as many points as they can with all hands on deck.  Having your starting goaltender not available for a possible 18 points is throwing a massive wrench into those plans and everyone has the right to criticize him for that.

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2 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

Yet all but 4 out of the 700+ NHL players have decided to follow the guidelines to prevent those restrictions.  Blackwood isn't ignorant of those restrictions.  These didn't sneak up on him as they have been out for months now.  He knows he cannot play in those games.  He knows he is creating an issue for the team and his teammates.  He know that he is under increased scrutiny.  I am not going to pat him on the back for having his own opinion (which he is entitled to) and I sure as hell not going to do the same for creating this distraction for the team.

Again, if the Devils are wanting to make the playoffs or at least be in the mix, they need to get as many points as they can with all hands on deck.  Having your starting goaltender not available for a possible 18 points is throwing a massive wrench into those plans and everyone has the right to criticize him for that.

And he may be right or wrong about it, i'm not the judge of that. But for him to take the time to make an educated decisions for himself is more important and smarter than making a decision he's forced to make to do something else. That's blackmailing. That we agree or not with it, it is what it is. 

Didn't we agree that family and players personal lives were the #1 most important thing in the big picture and that hockey was just a game? We need to remind ourselves of that here. 

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4 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

Yet all but 4 out of the 700+ NHL players have decided to follow the guidelines to prevent those restrictions.  Blackwood isn't ignorant of those restrictions.  These didn't sneak up on him as they have been out for months now.  He knows he cannot play in those games.  He knows he is creating an issue for the team and his teammates.  He know that he is under increased scrutiny.  I am not going to pat him on the back for having his own opinion (which he is entitled to) and I sure as hell not going to do the same for creating this distraction for the team.

Again, if the Devils are wanting to make the playoffs or at least be in the mix, they need to get as many points as they can with all hands on deck.  Having your starting goaltender not available for a possible 18 points is throwing a massive wrench into those plans and everyone has the right to criticize him for that.

 

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I have no problem with being critical of Blackwood for his decision. You will recall, I was in fact criticized for saying he was letting his team and the organization down.

It’s the rest of the colloquy, who’s a moron, who is fvcking stupid, etc. based on a medical decision. Disagreeing with someone’s choice is fine, and when that happened, nobody objected. But certain people instead felt they should create a hostile environment and it pissed people off. It even pissed off the admin, who then made a rule to avoid it that certain people decided they don’t have to follow.

There are zero people here saying we don’t have the right to criticize Blackwood. But being belligerent and putting it in every thread (and in fact, a new, designated thread for it was created and it is still in multiple threads) is obnoxious and pointless. Some of you are being as aggressive as the anti-vaxxers that you appear to hate. Everyone has opinions, whether or not you are a d!ck about them is a personal choice you make. 

And, as a side note, some of you who are repeating it over and over again are the same people who are critical of others for repeating the same things over and over again, even though their positions are actually related to the actual playing of the game. 

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44 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I have no problem with being critical of Blackwood for his decision. You will recall, I was in fact criticized for saying he was letting his team and the organization down.

It’s the rest of the colloquy, who’s a moron, who is fvcking stupid, etc. based on a medical decision. Disagreeing with someone’s choice is fine, and when that happened, nobody objected. But certain people instead felt they should create a hostile environment and it pissed people off. It even pissed off the admin, who then made a rule to avoid it that certain people decided they don’t have to follow.

There are zero people here saying we don’t have the right to criticize Blackwood. But being belligerent and putting it in every thread (and in fact, a new, designated thread for it was created and it is still in multiple threads) is obnoxious and pointless. Some of you are being as aggressive as the anti-vaxxers that you appear to hate. Everyone has opinions, whether or not you are a d!ck about them is a personal choice you make. 

And, as a side note, some of you who are repeating it over and over again are the same people who are critical of others for repeating the same things over and over again, even though their positions are actually related to the actual playing of the game. 

The new thread is for ticket and arena polices and happenings, it's not a talk about Blackwood/all other covid in general thread. 

It's also funny having to hear how belligerent some of us are when some still can't keep my name out of their mouth. 

I didn't bring up any other teams because I don't give two sh!ts about the rest of the league nor players on other teams, I rarely follow anything going on in the league these days because I simply don't care.

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9 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

The new thread is for ticket and arena polices and happenings, it's not a talk about Blackwood/all other covid in general thread. 

It's also funny having to hear how belligerent some of us are when some still can't keep my name out of their mouth. 

I mean it’s specifically discussing the new policy that came out regarding COVID, but that’s fine, there should be a dedicated thread so people who want to ignore it can do so. 

Of course, in true NJDevs form, now it’s about whether or not people still use cash. Sticking to a topic never works all that well. 

Some people are belligerent. I didn’t say you were. You added yourself to that group. If you don’t realize that some people were, I’m not sure if you have been reading this board. 

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Just now, MB3 said:

SD: gets into a fight with literally every single member of NJDevs.

Also SD: "wtf why are you all starting fights with me?" 

SD didn’t say anything. 

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6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

SD didn’t say anything. 

He has 8 posts in the last two pages of this thread alone. How much is your retainer? Crazy that a guy spends that kind of cash to have his own little internet-cop, but I'm not going to judge how everyone else spends their money. 

 

EDIT: lmao oh jesus I just read the rest of your posts. My god you've perfected the art of writing 4 paragraphs and saying absolutely nothing. Some people here are self-obsessed losers who love hearing themselves talk. (Note, I'm not saying YOU are a self obsessed loser. I'm saying some people are! This game is fun.) 

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Just now, MB3 said:

He has 8 posts in the last two pages of this thread alone. How much is your retainer? Crazy that a guy spends that kind of cash to have his own little internet-cop, but I'm not going to judge how everyone else spends their money. 

Nobody was even talking about him, you’re just so obsessed with him that you had to bring him up again. Nothing I said has anything to do with him. 

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Just now, mfitz804 said:

Nobody was even talking about him, you’re just so obsessed with him that you had to bring him up again. Nothing I said has anything to do with him. 

Sometimes it sounds like you just write sentences hoping other people know what they mean. I'm responding to a discussion that happened two hours ago. I didn't respond two hours ago because the only person that has the time (or compulsion) to post every minute on the minute is you. Scroll back a page if you need the reminder, dude. 

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Possible your post only looked like it was responsive to mine in context, but actually it wasn’t? If that’s the case, my bad.

I hadn't even read your posts yet. I'm responding to a two-page-long discussion with SD in another fight with another member of the forum. 

EDIT: I'll give him this though: he's gotta be the only person on the planet who sees "getting a vaccine to protect yourself and others against a deadly virus" as -- checks notes -- "blackmail". Even anti-vaxxer facebook groups cringe at that comment, my god. 

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1 minute ago, MB3 said:

I hadn't even read your posts yet. I'm responding to a two-page-long discussion with SD in another fight with another member of the forum. 

I posted about people fighting, and you posted a reply right after that about him fighting with people. Like I said, my bad if I misinterpreted the context.

Also, you literally can’t respond to anything without insulting people. Do you really think I care if you think I post too much? Same issue as the other day, you literally can’t say anything to anyone without coming off like an obnoxious a$$hole.

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Just now, mfitz804 said:

I posted about people fighting, and you posted a reply right after that about him fighting with people. Like I said, my bad if I misinterpreted the context.

Also, you literally can’t respond to anything without insulting people. Do you really think I care if you think I post too much? Same issue as the other day, you literally can’t say anything to anyone without coming off like an obnoxious a$$hole.

I can't respond to abrasive confrontational people without being abrasive and confrontational. That's you, that's SD, that's... sorta it? That weird glenwo guy from a while back? I've met like 5 regulars on this board and genuinely enjoy conversing with most people here. Nicomo, SH, RWTD, SatansHockey, MadDog, CR, those three dudes who all have the same username but different numbers at the end? Heck, even DM84 and I get into spats and then go months having casual and respectful discourse. 

The fact that you rely so heavily on hyperbole to attempt to make a point weakens your argument. Didn't they teach you that like, day zero at law school? 

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I can't respond to abrasive confrontational people without being abrasive and confrontational. That's you, that's SD, that's... sorta it? That weird glenwo guy from a while back? I've met like 5 regulars on this board and genuinely enjoy conversing with most people here. Nicomo, SH, RWTD, SatansHockey, MadDog, CR, those three dudes who all have the same username but different numbers at the end? Heck, even DM84 and I get into spats and then go months having casual and respectful discourse. 

The fact that you rely so heavily on hyperbole to attempt to make a point weakens your argument. Didn't they teach you that like, day zero at law school? 

But that’s the thing, you don’t just do it to abrasive people. You do it almost every time you disagree with somebody. Maybe you don’t even realize it, could just be a flaw in your character.

Bringing up that I’m a lawyer, that’s just totally hack. There’s no part of this message board that in any manner involved in any of my skills as an attorney. Even you can do better than that.

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5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

But that’s the thing, you don’t just do it to abrasive people. You do it almost every time you disagree with somebody. Maybe you don’t even realize it, could just be a flaw in your character.

Bringing up that I’m a lawyer, that’s just totally hack. There’s no part of this message board that in any manner involved in any of my skills as an attorney. Even you can do better than that.

In what universe is "you're a lawyer" a low blow? I wish people confused me with a lawyer! 

5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Also, they don’t teach you how to argue in law school. I think you’ve watched Legally Blonde too many times.

I don't know what to tell you -- it is literally impossible to watch Legally Blonde too many times.

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Just now, MB3 said:

In what universe is "you're a lawyer" a low blow? I wish people confused me with a lawyer! 

It’s just a typical way that people who can’t hang in an argument with me try to hang in an argument with me.

1 minute ago, MB3 said:

I don't know what to tell you -- it is literally impossible to watch Legally Blonde too many times.

Fvck, I walked right into that one. There is no counter argument.

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2 hours ago, MB3 said:

SD: gets into a fight with literally every single member of NJDevs.

Also SD: "wtf why are you all starting fights with me?" 

Where is that coming from? lol Where did i ask why someone started a fight with me? lol

This sounds more like a repressed feeling you have about me that you just like to get off your chest and throw my way than something related to this convo at all lol I was having a pretty calm discussion with DevsMan84 and everything was fine?

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1 hour ago, MB3 said:

I hadn't even read your posts yet. I'm responding to a two-page-long discussion with SD in another fight with another member of the forum. 

EDIT: I'll give him this though: he's gotta be the only person on the planet who sees "getting a vaccine to protect yourself and others against a deadly virus" as -- checks notes -- "blackmail". Even anti-vaxxer facebook groups cringe at that comment, my god. 

Oh that's that rubbed you the wrong way.

I was not even fighting, i feel we were just discussing. As for the "blackmail" thing, well as usual you didn't try to understand what i was saying at all. I didnt say that "i personally see it that way". I started my sentence with "But for him" (Blackwood). And explained how he sees the situation. And that i respected that, never said i agreed or wtv. I'm fully vaxxed. 

 

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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

Where is that coming from? lol Where did i ask why someone started a fight with me? lol

This sounds more like a repressed feeling you have about me that you just like to get off your chest and throw my way than something related to this convo at all lol I was having a pretty calm discussion with DevsMan84 and everything was fine?

Dude, you've been trying to pick a fight with SH with almost everything you posted the last 2 days. It's really cringey. Like Tie Domi flying around the ice trying to fight Stevens but Scotty won't even look at him.

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2 hours ago, Crisis said:

Dude, you've been trying to pick a fight with SH with almost everything you posted the last 2 days. It's really cringey. Like Tie Domi flying around the ice trying to fight Stevens but Scotty won't even look at him.

Oh well yeah that, totally. I never denied that lol 

My question remain. 

"Where did i ask why someone started a fight with me?" as MB quoted... i didn't asked that at all

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