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11 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

 

fvck it. I am writing this season off. 

 

 

Gillies has to be temporary.  I'm guessing if possible, one of the two Utes will get an extended look up here (once both are healthy).  

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3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Gillies has to be temporary.  I'm guessing if possible, one of the two Utes will get an extended look up here (once both are healthy).  

If Bernier needs hip surgery, that’s gotta be close to season ending. At that point I think from a safety and development standpoint you make a small trade for a Wedge type or let Gilles take the hits. No need letting the 2 Utes (I like that one) get beat up behind this garbage defense. 

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Just now, Devil Dan 56 said:

If Bernier needs hip surgery, that’s gotta be close to season ending. At that point I think from a safety and development standpoint you make a small trade for a Wedge type or let Gilles take the hits. No need letting the 2 Utes (I like that one) get beat up behind this garbage defense. 

If there's a change to the coaching staff, and we start to see some improvement, then I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a Ute signing.  But yeah, if it's going to be a nightly trainwreck, might as well let Gillies deal with a good chunk of it.  He'll love it because he'll get more NHL time than he ever could've dreamed.  

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

This is how it goes though...not like they're going to give up anything of remotely major significance for another netminder.  It does suck that the last two Plan As for the goaltending tandem went completely up in flames way too early though.  Fitz seems like he's got a bit of the Shero curse...makes mostly good moves that we all agree with, then they have some way of not working out as we'd hoped.  

hopefully if Bernier is unable to play they can recoup his money via insurance plus with Crawford walking away he cost them nothing. I don't see how that now allows Fitz a free pass to bring in a 27 year old with under 20 games, essentially nothing but a body to plug into a  season that's already slipping away. Now if Ruff's comments were misleading and Bernier's season and long term health aren't at risk ok. That being the case I would go with the AHL guy though. Brining in a guy like this seems to be  throwing in the towel and accepting the is swirling down the drain. He's certainly a cheap ass option that's for sure.

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22 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Gillies has to be temporary.  I'm guessing if possible, one of the two Utes will get an extended look up here (once both are healthy).  

I am sure he is, we have no depth in the farm at the moment with Dawes injured .

 

But If Bernier is done for the year it's highly likely we have below average goaltending for the rest of the season. Given we have to go at 108 point pace to make the usual cutoff for playoffs I think it's safe to say we are done. 

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27 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

I am sure he is, we have no depth in the farm at the moment with Dawes injured .

 

But If Bernier is done for the year it's highly likely we have below average goaltending for the rest of the season. Given we have to go at 108 point pace to make the usual cutoff for playoffs I think it's safe to say we are done. 

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1 hour ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

I am sure he is, we have no depth in the farm at the moment with Dawes injured .

 

But If Bernier is done for the year it's highly likely we have below average goaltending for the rest of the season. Given we have to go at 108 point pace to make the usual cutoff for playoffs I think it's safe to say we are done. 

Well we were below average basically already. 

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1 hour ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

If Bernier needs hip surgery, that’s gotta be close to season ending. At that point I think from a safety and development standpoint you make a small trade for a Wedge type or let Gilles take the hits. No need letting the 2 Utes (I like that one) get beat up behind this garbage defense. 

It could be career ending…

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34 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Maybe limit it to goalies that actually win a game. Should make it much easier…

Not at this point, to be honest this helps me out since I can’t find the others. 

I mailed a puck to the Rock to try to get Schmid to sign it today. Sounds like he’ll be around long enough to sign it. We’ll see. 

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Friend made me aware in the 4 games he’s been to this season he’s seen 6 goalies play:

Blackwood

Gilles

Schmid

Bernier

Dawes

Wedgewood

And two of those games were wins.

Also made a good point that from ‘95 to ‘14 it was basically one goalie, this fvcking franchise has become garbage

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48 minutes ago, ajsgolf said:

Friend made me aware in the 4 games he’s been to this season he’s seen 6 goalies play:

Blackwood

Gilles

Schmid

Bernier

Dawes

Wedgewood

And two of those games were wins.

Also made a good point that from ‘95 to ‘14 it was basically one goalie, this fvcking franchise has become garbage

Gillies hasn't suited up for the Devils yet.  But yeah five goalies have played for the Devils this year, which most definitely was NOT Plan A.

Just goes to show how hard it is to follow up an all-time great.  So many times, fans think that someone who can at least give you short-term success can be found without too much difficulty.  But we've seen how it works...you can get those guys who make perfect sense at the time (like Schneider), but it doesn't work out as expected.  You can have the homegrown kid who initially shows some promise (Blackwood), but before long has you wondering what his true top-end really is.  And then, having been spoiled by a guy who NEVER seemed to get hurt during his prime, you see that most goalies will succumb to injuries and missed games from time to time.

Remember when Brodeur was an automatic for so long (always for 70+ games), and we would laugh at teams like the Flyers and their revolving door of goalies?  Well that's the Devils now.  Not sure who's available in the upcoming draft, but the Devils might have to think about spending a higher pick on a goalie very soon.      

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Gillies hasn't suited up for the Devils yet.  But yeah five goalies have played for the Devils this year, which most definitely was NOT Plan A.

Just goes to show how hard it is to follow up an all-time great.  So many times, fans think that someone who can at least give you short-term success can be found without too much difficulty.  But we've seen how it works...you can get those guys who make perfect sense at the time (like Schneider), but it doesn't work out as expected.  You can have the homegrown kid who initially shows some promise (Blackwood), but before long has you wondering what his true top-end really is.  And then, having been spoiled by a guy who NEVER seemed to get hurt during his prime, you see that most goalies will succumb to injuries and missed games from time to time.

Remember when Brodeur was an automatic for so long (always for 70+ games), and we would laugh at teams like the Flyers and their revolving door of goalies?  Well that's the Devils now.  Not sure who's available in the upcoming draft, but the Devils might have to think about spending a higher pick on a goalie very soon.      

Fitz needs to do his due diligence on these backups he signs too. One was mentally done with hockey, the other had a degenerative hip problem that he had to know about. Hey Tommy- do some fvcking research before you sign the next one. Please. 

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2 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Fitz needs to do his due diligence on these backups he signs too. One was mentally done with hockey, the other had a degenerative hip problem that he had to know about. Hey Tommy- do some fvcking research before you sign the next one. Please. 

You can get on Fitz for some things, but was he supposed to know that Crawford was gonna just bail like he did?  And did even Bernier himself have any idea about his hip?  He was coming off a solid season last year...I don't he signed thinking it was going to turn out like this.  I think he figured to have a legit shot to start half the Devils' games or more.  Sometimes it really is just sh!t luck.

BUT, I agree that, if anything, if the options from within aren't ready or are simply deemed to be not good enough, probably better to find someone a little younger.  Can't hurt.

  

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Yeah I'm loath to write something off as bad luck but Fitz's goalie picks really have been bad luck the last couple years.  It's near impossible to get a feel for a guy's mental state when you're doing only virtual recruiting (Crawford) though like with Brent Sutter, sometimes you just gotta shy away from guys who really don't want to be here instead of applying the full-court press.  And who knows when Bernier actually got hurt although there were signs of this issue from early in camp, there was no indication last year or when he signed that he was damaged goods.  

Blackwood OTOH it's starting to sink in that you can't really count on him as a 55-60 game a year goalie on a good team, either healthwise or consistency-wise

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11 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Yeah I'm loath to write something off as bad luck but Fitz's goalie picks really have been bad luck the last couple years.  It's near impossible to get a feel for a guy's mental state when you're doing only virtual recruiting (Crawford) though like with Brent Sutter, sometimes you just gotta shy away from guys who really don't want to be here instead of applying the full-court press.  And who knows when Bernier actually got hurt although there were signs of this issue from early in camp, there was no indication last year or when he signed that he was damaged goods.  

Blackwood OTOH it's starting to sink in that you can't really count on him as a 55-60 game a year goalie on a good team, either healthwise or consistency-wise

Yeah I know these team has defensive issues (and defensive COACHING issues), but I think Mac has limitations.  Feels like he's going to be more of a 25-35 game backup in a couple of years.  

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2 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

Fitz needs to do his due diligence on these backups he signs too. One was mentally done with hockey, the other had a degenerative hip problem that he had to know about. Hey Tommy- do some fvcking research before you sign the next one. Please. 

not saying marty was involved in the gillies trade but maybe he got the nod from him.

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3 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Giants battling Devils for most clueless ownership

Devils should do this with something their fans would actually want, like "free shoelaces" or "free rope with the purchase of a pizza" or "free sock (fits perfectly over exhaust pipe!)" on their appreciation day this year. 

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12 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Devils should do this with something their fans would actually want, like "free shoelaces" or "free rope with the purchase of a pizza" or "free sock (fits perfectly over exhaust pipe!)" on their appreciation day this year. 

‘Free pillow over the face with the purchase of an Auntie Anne’s pretzel’ 

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4 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

‘Free pillow over the face with the purchase of an Auntie Anne’s pretzel’ 

remember when the rock sold those Mrs Fields cookie sandwiches with icing in the middle in like 2007? 

those things were unironically widow makers lmao. 

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