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4 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I looked it up.  5 on 5 goals against and rank:

2013-2014: 134  7th

2014-2015: 124 3rd

NAS HIRED

2015-2016: 132 12th

2016-2017: 149 16th

2017-2018: 167 22nd

2018-2019: 184 26th

2019-2020: 156 27th

2020-2021: 152 24th

2021-2022: 134 32nd

 

Can't be understated how the goaltending affects this. As I said, it's absolutely brutal. Might be the worst stretch we've ever seen. Goals above expected is horrendous. Also, our PK, which Nas is responsible for, has greatly improved. Again, I don't want to seem like I love Nas lol, if he doesn't come back, I won't be sad lol. Just saying that he's not ONLY bad. 

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4 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I looked it up.  5 on 5 goals against and rank:

2013-2014: 134  7th

2014-2015: 124 3rd

NAS HIRED

2015-2016: 132 12th

2016-2017: 149 16th

2017-2018: 167 22nd

2018-2019: 184 26th

2019-2020: 156 27th

2020-2021: 152 24th

2021-2022: 134 32nd

 

YEah that's more in line with what i expected. 

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16 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I looked it up.  5 on 5 goals against and rank:

2013-2014: 134  7th

2014-2015: 124 3rd

NAS HIRED

2015-2016: 132 12th

2016-2017: 149 16th

2017-2018: 167 22nd

2018-2019: 184 26th

2019-2020: 156 27th

2020-2021: 152 24th

2021-2022: 134 32nd

 

If I am reading this right, and things progress the way they seem to be, we are going to have significantly more goals against this year than any of those other years. 

@Colorado Rockies 1976 extrapolate this year's total across 82 games, please!!

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2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I can’t believe how much rope he’s been given. I mean even in the playoff year they were in the bottom 3rd of the league. 

I don't get it either.

Again, i won't take any stance like i know what's going on. But IMO the options are

a) Management already have something in mind for next season. Either Dineen or that european coach or something else and don't feel a temporary change would be beneficial considering the state of the team.

From that point of view, i'm not saying i agree but I can understand why they wouldn't just fire coaches just to find a temporary coaches for a few months. Guys are already confused as it is, learning a new system right now might not help much. Unless it would be from the new coaching staff that'd be there for awhile.

b) Management already have something in mind for next season. Either Dineen or that european coach or something else and couldn't find someone that they were happy with.

c) Management decided to write off this season and get a good pick.

d) Somehow Fitz actually believe in his coaching staff and knows more than we do and see that the players are actually not executing what the coaches are asking.

e) Fitz just suck and he's clueless

f) Nasrredine has information that could ruin Fitz life and has him by the balls.

g) The management REALLY want us to challenge for Bedard or Michkov next season and they are doing this all on purpose like you'd see in movies... or Ted Lasso.

 

So those are all scenarios that i believe could be the reason. I just have no idea what it is really. So for my sanity, i just choose to believe one that doesn't make me want to punch a wall every game.

I'm fully happy to believe that we'll suck enough this year so that there's no chance Nas is back and that we get a new coaching staff next season and a better pick to trade or draft this season.

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11 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

If I am reading this right, and things progress the way they seem to be, we are going to have significantly more goals against this year than any of those other years. 

@Colorado Rockies 1976 extrapolate this year's total across 82 games, please!!

Sure...

So I take 134, divide that by 50 (games played to date), multiply that by 82, and come up with:

FIRE nASS AS SOON AS THIS SEASON ENDS, FFS!

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3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Sure...

So I take 134, divide that by 50 (games played to date), multiply that by 82, and come up with:

FIRE nASS AS SOON AS THIS SEASON ENDS, FFS!

Lol, math is not my strength, but this is a 100% correct equation. 

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3 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I really think the Devils love Dineen, are willing to let him build his own staff around him, and don't want to totally botch a really exciting thing happening in utica and hand their new head coach a steaming in-season pile of smelly sh!t in the process. 

I think this is very plausible too. Dineen would obviously not make any miracle this year in the NHL. And if we move him up, we're basically throwing a wrench in their season which is really beneficial to Holtz and other youngsters.

If he was coaching another team not linked to us and that our prospects maybe he could have been brought in, but making this change would impact both our teams and both our teams would sort of suffer from it while we're not doing anything special in the NHL this year and our AHL team has a chance to win actually

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8 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I really think the Devils love Dineen, are willing to let him build his own staff around him, and don't want to totally botch a really exciting thing happening in utica and hand their new head coach a steaming in-season pile of smelly sh!t in the process. 

More and more this is my hope.

What will REALLY piss me off is if Dineen is promoted to the Devils' HC this offseason, but Fitz insists on saddling him with nASS.  Let this guy put together his own staff...with none of the current "coaches" sticking around.  

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1 hour ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I looked it up.  5 on 5 goals against and rank:

2013-2014: 134  7th

2014-2015: 124 3rd

NAS HIRED

2015-2016: 132 12th

2016-2017: 149 16th

2017-2018: 167 22nd

2018-2019: 184 26th

2019-2020: 156 27th

2020-2021: 152 24th

2021-2022: 134 32nd

 

When Ruff was appointed, I was prepared to accept that Nas might be better under a new head coach, but he isn't. If he's still behind the bench at the start of next season, I'll be pulling out my hair, and I really can't afford to lose any more of that.

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On 2/18/2022 at 2:51 PM, Aitchmack said:

When Ruff was appointed, I was prepared to accept that Nas might be better under a new head coach, but he isn't. If he's still behind the bench at the start of next season, I'll be pulling out my hair, and I really can't afford to lose any more of that.

If next season Nass is still behind the bench and Subban re-signed i'm rooting for another team lol

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On 2/18/2022 at 12:44 PM, SterioDesign said:

I don't get it either.

Again, i won't take any stance like i know what's going on. But IMO the options are

a) Management already have something in mind for next season. Either Dineen or that european coach or something else and don't feel a temporary change would be beneficial considering the state of the team.

From that point of view, i'm not saying i agree but I can understand why they wouldn't just fire coaches just to find a temporary coaches for a few months. Guys are already confused as it is, learning a new system right now might not help much. Unless it would be from the new coaching staff that'd be there for awhile.

b) Management already have something in mind for next season. Either Dineen or that european coach or something else and couldn't find someone that they were happy with.

c) Management decided to write off this season and get a good pick.

d) Somehow Fitz actually believe in his coaching staff and knows more than we do and see that the players are actually not executing what the coaches are asking.

e) Fitz just suck and he's clueless

f) Nasrredine has information that could ruin Fitz life and has him by the balls.

g) The management REALLY want us to challenge for Bedard or Michkov next season and they are doing this all on purpose like you'd see in movies... or Ted Lasso.

 

So those are all scenarios that i believe could be the reason. I just have no idea what it is really. So for my sanity, i just choose to believe one that doesn't make me want to punch a wall every game.

I'm fully happy to believe that we'll suck enough this year so that there's no chance Nas is back and that we get a new coaching staff next season and a better pick to trade or draft this season.

There should be more accountability from management. Where's Fitzgerald? He has been given a lot of rope. You don't keep a former interim coach on a new coaching staff. They'll probably look to promote Dineen. 

Bedard is special. He's an insane talent with game-breaking speed and a lethal shot. He also has good vision. Very exciting prospect. Michkov won't be in the league until his KHL contract expires. I think that's 2025 or '26. But whoever takes him will get an NHL ready player who should have an immediate impact. That'll be a great draft.  

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4 minutes ago, Derek21 said:

There should be more accountability from management. Where's Fitzgerald? He has been given a lot of rope. You don't keep a former interim coach on a new coaching staff. They'll probably look to promote Dineen. 

Bedard is special. He's an insane talent with game-breaking speed and a lethal shot. He also has good vision. Very exciting prospect. Michkov won't be in the league until his KHL contract expires. I think that's 2025 or '26. But whoever takes him will get an NHL ready player who should have an immediate impact. That'll be a great draft.  

Yeah i dont think many people would want another season like this where we'd be a lottery team lol

If i'd get on the conspiracy theorist bandwagon i'd think that the lack of any communication or interviews we've seen from Fitz "could" mean that the orders are coming from above him. You'd think if not he'd be put in front of the cameras at once every.... 2-3 months haha

I really don't know what's going on to be honest but something feel strange from this side of the fence

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19 minutes ago, MB3 said:

on my list of hashtag personal fun facts, i got a 780 on my math section despite scoring in the mid 600s on all the practice tests and not being particularly skilled in math in high school. 

Impressive. I did not do that well on math, but killed on the English or Language Arts or whatever the fvck they were calling it 30 years ago. I was satisfied with my overall score. 

I do, however, have the highest scaled score on the Multistate Bar Exam of anyone who ever shared their score with me. By a lot, I was about 44 points above average.

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Impressive. I did not do that well on math, but killed on the English or Language Arts or whatever the fvck they were calling it 30 years ago. I was satisfied with my overall score. 

That was me, too. Did great on the English, absolutely terrible on the math. 

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34 minutes ago, MB3 said:

780 bruh don’t short sell me

I didn’t do that good either. 720. 

Side note, I lied to my parents about the date of the test so I could go to a party the night before. They found out the next day and I was grounded until I got my score. I beat my sister by almost 400 points and the punishment was lifted lol. 

That party was epic and it was totally worth it. 

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Silly thought but should we maybe talk about hockey eventually on page 83? 

I'll give it a shot. I just read this on hf board

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According Sat Shah of Sportsnet 650 whom I believe has broken some Canuck signings before like Hughes extension etc.

He mentions that he has heard that the Canucks have had deep conversations with the Devils regarding a Dickenson for Zacha trade.

Shah said that the Devils are not interested in giving Zacha a raise or a long term commitment. However, rather than walking away from any RFA salary arbitration in the off-season , the Devils instead have had conversations with the Canucks about Jason Dickenson whom apparently the Devils believe bring alot of the same attributes as Zacha but more importantly is cost controlled for 2 more years at 2.6 mil.

My god if we actually trade zacha but get Dickenson instead of Garland or Boeser. Man that'd be like getting a pair of socks for christmas when you expected a playstation 9

 

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20 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Silly thought but should we maybe talk about hockey eventually on page 83? 

I'll give it a shot. I just read this on hf board

My god if we actually trade zacha but get Dickenson instead of Garland or Boeser. Man that'd be like getting a pair of socks for christmas when you expected a playstation 9

 

Would indicate Zacha’s value is that of a pair of socks, rather than a PlayStation 9. 

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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

Silly thought but should we maybe talk about hockey eventually on page 83? 

I'll give it a shot. I just read this on hf board

My god if we actually trade zacha but get Dickenson instead of Garland or Boeser. Man that'd be like getting a pair of socks for christmas when you expected a playstation 9

 

Oh man I know Zacha has his warts and he’s been disappointing as of late, but good lord that seems like a pretty sh!tty return for him.  

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