Devilsfan118 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I mean I've definitely pulled off a Zacha + Smith + 2035 1st for Quin Hughes in the past few EA NHL games. Get it done Fitz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: There would be no point in trading him, he’s the kind of player you are hoping to get back in a trade. But we already have him lol. I can’t think of any player I would want back in exchange, with the exception of maybe 10-12 elite players who are similarly on their teams’ untouchable lists. I feel like extending him should be a top priority. Question is this, have you bought in fully where you want to lock him in long term, or are you giving him a shorter deal to see if this year’s results are the outlier rather than a picture of what you’ll get in the future? As risky as these deals can be (and as often as they rarely work out over the long-term), I would roll the dice and offer Bratt 5+ years...he might seem like a relative bargain in a few years. He really seems to have come into his own and more importantly, he clearly has chemistry with both Hughes and Hischier. When you have a young winger who's producing and working well with your young centers, why take that weapon away from them? We've all been chatting about how Hughes and Hischier need talented wingers to play with...it's looking like the answer might very well be coming from within (Bratt, Mercer, hopefully Holtz). We'll see if Sharangovich can become more consistent. At this point, it's much more about ridding the team of deadwood...as far as Devils wingers go, we know which two absolutely fit that bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Ottawa Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Vancouver can eat a dick if they think they can get Smith for peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: As risky as these deals can be (and as often as they rarely work out over the long-term), I would roll the dice and offer Bratt 5+ years...he might seem like a relative bargain in a few years. He really seems to have come into his own and more importantly, he clearly has chemistry with both Hughes and Hischier. When you have a young winger who's producing and working well with your young centers, why take that weapon away from them? We've all been chatting about how Hughes and Hischier need talented wingers to play with...it's looking like the answer might very well be coming from within (Bratt, Mercer, hopefully Holtz). We'll see if Sharangovich can become more consistent. At this point, it's much more about ridding the team of deadwood...as far as Devils wingers go, we know which two absolutely fit that bill. the question becomes, are you sold an him continuing to be what he is? Last season we would have said that about Sharangovich and Zacha. Granted Yegor was a rookie and that would have been reckless, but Zacha put up good numbers. My personal opinion is yes, Bratt has shown he has the talent to produce, and if you play him with good players, he'll produce even better. Me personally, yup, I'm in long term. 1 minute ago, Rob_Ottawa said: Vancouver can eat a dick if they think they can get Smith for peanuts. They should probably just leave Smith here and just eat the peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, mfitz804 said: There would be no point in trading him, he’s the kind of player you are hoping to get back in a trade. But we already have him lol. I can’t think of any player I would want back in exchange, with the exception of maybe 10-12 elite players who are similarly on their teams’ untouchable lists. I feel like extending him should be a top priority. Question is this, have you bought in fully where you want to lock him in long term, or are you giving him a shorter deal to see if this year’s results are the outlier rather than a picture of what you’ll get in the future? 100% agreed. To the last question, I want to lock him in long term. Last year we all expected more from him and it didn't quite work out, but this season he's delivered. He's 23, so I'd offer a 7 year deal for 45M. Would put him at a little less than what the Captain is making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: the question becomes, are you sold an him continuing to be what he is? Last season we would have said that about Sharangovich and Zacha. Granted Yegor was a rookie and that would have been reckless, but Zacha put up good numbers. My personal opinion is yes, Bratt has shown he has the talent to produce, and if you play him with good players, he'll produce even better. Me personally, yup, I'm in long term. They should probably just leave Smith here and just eat the peanuts. I'm sold enough to offer him 5+ years (get the feeling when all is said and done, he and the Devils settle for 6 years with an AAV in the high $6 millions). He's put up 51 points over his last 46 GP...the only Devil to put up this kind of production over about that many games post-Hall is Jack Hughes (55 points in his last 55 GP). It could blow up, but I'm willing to take the risk...if Bratt were in his late 20s, I'd be a little more wary, but he's only 23. Sharangovich got exactly what he deserved, in that he did enough to get a "OK, you got our attention kid, here's a couple of years and a nice raise, let's see what else you've got" contract. So far the reviews are mixed...his numbers are pretty much the same as they were last season. I'd like to see some improvement through the rest of this season and into next season, before I commit to him being a part of this thing...so far he's good for 23 G and 23 A per 82 GP. Not a bad place to start from, but wouldn't want him to stay there. Zacha did enough over the 84-game (29 G and 31 A) sample to become more than meme fodder, but this year was a big one for him, and it's been disappointing overall...is that 84-game sample who he can be going to forward, or is he the "almost" guy who's good for maybe 40-45 points and long stretches of invisibility? He's suddenly putting up points again right now, but he's still not noticeable much lately...almost feels like this latest flurry of points is fluky. But to bring it back to "around the league", if Vancouver is that high on Zacha, I'm listening with both ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Rob_Ottawa said: Vancouver can eat a dick if they think they can get Smith for peanuts. Have you seen the price of cashews? They throw them on the table and they're overpaying, by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Arizona beat DET 9 to 2 tonight. Very oof. Arizona has made a few teams looks silly this season, including ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 Ovechkin scored 765 and 766 tonight. Tied now with Jagr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Arizona is mostly a joke organization but this was a classy move https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-phil-kessel-extends-ironman-streak-with-1-shift-then-flies-home-for-birth-of-child-153436274.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: Ovechkin scored 765 and 766 tonight. Tied now with Jagr. As long he stays healthy, he should be somewhere between 820-830 goals by the end of next season, with three years still left on his current deal. Upcoming are his Age 37-40 seasons. Barring a ton of missed games or his body breaking down, hard to imagine that he doesn't blow past Gretzky with about a season-and-a-half left on his current deal...I'm guessing he finishes with about 940 goals by the time he hangs 'em up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Arizona is mostly a joke organization but this was a classy move https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-phil-kessel-extends-ironman-streak-with-1-shift-then-flies-home-for-birth-of-child-153436274.html Didn't half ass that one shift either, got a shot on goal! Nice move by the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: As long he stays healthy, he should be somewhere between 820-830 goals by the end of next season, with three years still left on his current deal. Upcoming are his Age 37-40 seasons. Barring a ton of missed games or his body breaking down, hard to imagine that he doesn't blow past Gretzky with about a season-and-a-half left on his current deal...I'm guessing he finishes with about 940 goals by the time he hangs 'em up. That’s pretty incredible, especially considering the difference in defense and goaltending since the 80’s. Also it’s pretty crazy to think of what Jagr would have put up if he hung around the league a little longer. I think there were 4 or 5 teams he still hadn’t played for yet. Edited March 9, 2022 by Devil Dan 56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: That’s pretty incredible, especially considering the difference in defense and goaltending since the 80’s. Also it’s pretty crazy to think of what Jagr build have put up of he hung around the league a little longer. I think there were 4 or 5 teams he still hadn’t played for yet. 50.1 G per 82 GP for his entire career. Just checked, and Stamkos has 42.6 G per 82 GP (playing in the same era). I can't think of anyone else who'd come remotely close to Ovechkin's rate, during his career...during the time that Ovechkin scored 50+ goals friggin' EIGHT times (from 2005-06 through the present), here's what the rest of the league has managed to do: Cheechoo (remember him?): once Jagr: once Kovalchuk: twice Heatley: twice Lecavalier: once Crosby: once Stamkos: twice (only player other than Ovechkin to crack 60 goals...each player did that once) Perry: once Malkin: once Draisaitl: once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) Nvm, didn’t read back enough. Edited March 9, 2022 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 https://thehockeynews.com/news/flyers-sign-ristolainen-to-five-year-extension?fbclid=IwAR2j3eMjea9uVA64RDbwnMY-7R89Hy4DJ5S0UipVrF_7BQlsS_izYD4d6ek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 58 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: https://thehockeynews.com/news/flyers-sign-ristolainen-to-five-year-extension?fbclid=IwAR2j3eMjea9uVA64RDbwnMY-7R89Hy4DJ5S0UipVrF_7BQlsS_izYD4d6ek Um, yeah. Very happy Philly have made that deal. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, Aitchmack said: Um, yeah. Very happy Philly have made that deal. 🤣 I LOL’d when I read it 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I LOL’d when I read it 🤣 Those are the kinds of moves that keep you from being relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 They're spending that money they could be giving Gaudreau... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Big loss for Dallas: https://thehockeynews.com/news/miro-heiskanen-out-indefinitely-with-mono?fbclid=IwAR0ONrtl1_gk66VPdBTVrT-Mq6EGhiSwHd6u0zSoUdIrvRAB96EglLaS_yI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Those are the kinds of moves that keep you from being relevant. Absolute head scratcher. But hey, I’m good with it 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Fletcher being Fletcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Absolute head scratcher. But hey, I’m good with it 🤣 If he had showed significant improvement, then I'd get it more. But it sure looks and sounds like he hasn't evolved at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: If he had showed significant improvement, then I'd get it more. But it sure looks and sounds like he hasn't evolved at all. And FIVE years?! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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