mfitz804 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 12:35 PM, MadDog2020 said: All I know is I want a jersey with the 40th anniversary patch, so they better make those patches available for sale. Found this on eBay. I would imagine they will be available widespread and at a better price, but this shows they WILL be available to buy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/265784512377?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=kfqi8Pv2QMa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=y7Ori1jqQ5O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Found this on eBay. I would imagine they will be available widespread and at a better price, but this shows they WILL be available to buy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/265784512377?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=kfqi8Pv2QMa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=y7Ori1jqQ5O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY That looks like dogsh!t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) On 7/16/2022 at 12:43 PM, jagknife said: I just want the patch, I know I’m an old man yelling at clouds but I still cannot fully accept our current jerseys. I know I know “get over it, boomer” I like the new jersey, but really only the white. Would prefer the old ones. I want them to call the old style the 'championship' jersey and make that the home jersey. Needs bottom stripe on it. Wear the old red champion style one with the bottom stripes for home games and wear the newer style on the road. They don't have to be identical jerseys. I like how our jerseys mimicked the Rangers original 6 style but were red and black, like we were trying to be like an annoying little brother. Now without the bottom stripes it just looks like modern Dallas or Carolina. Edited July 18, 2022 by RizzMB30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 17 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: That looks like dogsh!t If it didn’t before, it does now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 18 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: That looks like dogsh!t out of curiosity. How could this design look better to you? What are the flaws Do you have examples of similar attempts that look amazing to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, SterioDesign said: out of curiosity. How could this design look better to you? What are the flaws Do you have examples of similar attempts that look amazing to you? I don't know what he'll say but I am confident you could take the same elements and make it look cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: I don't know what he'll say but I am confident you could take the same elements and make it look cooler. I don't know. I just think it works fine. Could something be made that is better than this? probably yeah. But does this have CLEAR and unforgivable flaws or look like it was made by someone in Microsoft Word... well no? That's why i'm just curious as to why someone would call this dogsh!t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I don't know. I just think it works fine. Could something be made that is better than this? probably yeah. But does this have CLEAR and unforgivable flaws or look like it was made by someone in Microsoft Word... well no? That's why i'm just curious as to why someone would call this dogsh!t Actually, I'm curious to see what YOU could come up. I know you can definitely improve upon this. As for the existing design, I definitely wouldn't call it dogsh!t, but it kinda has an AHL vibe to it...on a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 6. It's not bad but it feels like something's missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I don't know. I just think it works fine. Could something be made that is better than this? probably yeah. But does this have CLEAR and unforgivable flaws or look like it was made by someone in Microsoft Word... well no? That's why i'm just curious as to why someone would call this dogsh!t Yeah, I thought it looked fine… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Actually, I'm curious to see what YOU could come up. I know you can definitely improve upon this. As for the existing design, I definitely wouldn't call it dogsh!t, but it kinda has an AHL vibe to it...on a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 6. It's not bad but it feels like something's missing. I am thinking anyone with graphics skills could take the 40, the horns and the tail and make a better looking logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just now, Nicomo said: Yeah, I thought it looked fine… It does, and it also kind of keeps in line with what we have had previously. The numbers look similar to our 25th logo patch. I think it would look better in silver, but I am assuming they did the 25th in silver because its the "silver anniversary". 40th is the 'ruby anniversary", maybe red could have been cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: I am thinking anyone with graphics skills could take the 40, the horns and the tail and make a better looking logo. It almost feels like an unrefined concept...like someone did a fairly detailed sketch (but was still just an initial sketch) and said, "This seems like a good starting point, whaddya think?", and then someone just took the sketch and ran with it almost completely as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Actually, I'm curious to see what YOU could come up. I know you can definitely improve upon this. As for the existing design, I definitely wouldn't call it dogsh!t, but it kinda has an AHL vibe to it...on a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 6. It's not bad but it feels like something's missing. Well i'm not gonna spend any time on it but if i'd have to do it. I don't think it would be thaaaaaat far from this. If anything simpler might be the way to go. Designing things like this is always "damned if you do, damned if you don't". And literally anything you do with it... someone won't like something about it... "i feel this should be bigger... this should be smaller... this should be a different colour.... etc etc" Like whoever did this went with an extra shade in the tail and horn. Which makes it more modern. Which is why some feel that it feels more AHL or modern. While others would prefer if its more aligned with the original logo which is very simple. Which... let's be. honest, we like the logo because of what it represent to us now, it's nostalgic. But it's not a really good looking logo on itself. Same thing with many classic logos around the league. Habs, Bruins, Rangers, etc etc... they are iconic now... but on their own and without context.. it's not that great. Edited July 18, 2022 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I actually do like the Devils' crest...partly because of how the NJ was successfully worked in, partly because it's "clean" and not too busy, and also because I don't think there's an actual "Devil" that would ever have anything close to universal appeal. I'm hoping that the crest stays forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Which... let's be. honest, we like the logo because of what it represent to us now, it's nostalgic. But it's not a really good looking logo on itself. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nicomo said: you heard me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I think the logo is great. And I’m obviously not even connected to NJ in any way. The crest and jerseys were actually one of the first things that drew me to the team. Like CR mentioned, it’s just super clean and sharp. One way I judge a logo is how it looks on merchandise (shirts, hats, etc), and the Devils logo looks fantastic on most stuff, imo. Red and black being such a strong color combo certainly helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Again, i like the logo because of what it represents and all. But its like many movies or games you love as kid. When you actually look into it more later... its not as great haha From a designer standpoint. This section of the logo is objectively sloppy and inconsistent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I see absolutely nothing wrong there… but I’m not in the business, so I’ll take your word for it. I do however - disagree about only liking it out of sentimental reasons. I objectively think it looks great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostondevil11 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Actually, I'm curious to see what YOU could come up. I know you can definitely improve upon this. As for the existing design, I definitely wouldn't call it dogsh!t, but it kinda has an AHL vibe to it...on a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 6. It's not bad but it feels like something's missing. It looks like they just added a 40 to the Binghamton Devils logo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Again, i like the logo because of what it represents and all. But its like many movies or games you love as kid. When you actually look into it more later... its not as great haha From a designer standpoint. This section of the logo is objectively sloppy and inconsistent 8 minutes ago, Nicomo said: I see absolutely nothing wrong there… but I’m not in the business, so I’ll take your word for it. I do however - disagree about only liking it out of sentimental reasons. I objectively think it looks great. I think you nailed it, I don't believe those of us outside the business are seeing the same thing as when a graphic designer looks at it. I think it looks great AND I like it for sentimental reasons. It's my favorite team's logo for the past 36 years I have been following them. I don't see how I'd avoid sentimentality. Just now, bostondevil11 said: It looks like they just added a 40 to the Binghamton Devils logo. And removed the emoji part which most people hated lol. If you are gonna recycle, that's the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Nicomo said: I see absolutely nothing wrong there… but I’m not in the business, so I’ll take your word for it. I do however - disagree about only liking it out of sentimental reasons. I objectively think it looks great. Same, it works, it's always worked. If it was ever replaced, you'd have a lot of fans upset...says something that anything designed to replace it would likely be considered inferior (or less appealing). That being said, I never the liked the "piece of white tape" sleeve stripe on the old red and green away jerseys...I know what the idea was, but that never looked quite right to me and still doesn't. I loved the original red-and-blacks in all forms right up until they met their demise...as other teams' older jersey designs have occasionally made full-time comebacks, I'll always hope that happens someday...I'll be overjoyed. I won't go into my criticisms of the newer red-and-blacks...they look OK on ice. Just not as good as the prior design. Anyway, as much as I've always loved the logo, there's been elements I've been less fond of on some of the templates. But the original red-and-blacks were perfect. Loved 'em and miss 'em. Edited July 18, 2022 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: If it didn’t before, it does now. 1 hour ago, SterioDesign said: out of curiosity. How could this design look better to you? What are the flaws Do you have examples of similar attempts that look amazing to you? 1 hour ago, Nicomo said: Yeah, I thought it looked fine… the LOGO itself looks fine, that patch looks like absolute sh!t, like something youd buy in a dollar store. It doesn't even look embroidered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: the LOGO itself looks fine, that patch looks like absolute sh!t, like something youd buy in a dollar store. It doesn't even look embroidered oh okay it's the quality of the patch you were referring to. Makes more sense now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Nicomo said: I see absolutely nothing wrong there… but I’m not in the business, so I’ll take your word for it. I do however - disagree about only liking it out of sentimental reasons. I objectively think it looks great. well it's mostly just the flow of the lines Ideally if there's shapes cutting into each others you want to have a smooth and sharp consistent gap between the 2 shapes like it's been cut from one other kind of like a puzzle piece. So that makes the black outlines also inconsistent and sloppy. This section the top part is good and sharp but that tail... the line is really sloppy... the curve is not smooth and elegant at all, very clunky. Just look at it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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