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On 7/28/2022 at 7:49 PM, MB3 said:

fully aware that this will be second hand information but when I had a few pops with Daneyko, I asked him about McLean and how it all went wrong. He said “he didn’t even know some of the guys names. Big guys too. Would just yell “hey number 8 get over here” and the team would be like “uh… you mean Zubrus?” He showed up unprepared and the team felt it.” 

Wasn't he an assistant for many years before being named the head coach?

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2 minutes ago, eaglejelly said:

Wasn't he an assistant for many years before being named the head coach?

Yeah, for like 7 years before taking over.   Hard to fathom he wouldnt know everyone on the team by name.  
 

This is the kind of stuff you might hear about Paterno or Bowden when they were like 100 years old and there’s 110 players with walk-ons to keep track of but not a 22 man roster in professional hockey.   

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Man, gotta give the Flames some credit here...they were able to make the absolute best out of a potentially brutal situation.  Getting Huberdeau locked up so quickly is impressive.  They basically replaced JG and were able to get some pieces for Tkachuk.  

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13 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Man, gotta give the Flames some credit here...they were able to make the absolute best out of a potentially brutal situation.  Getting Huberdeau locked up so quickly is impressive.  They basically replaced JG and were able to get some pieces for Tkachuk.  

But they had to pay him 10.5mm for 8 years, starting next year at age 30…   It locks up a star player, but he is literally on his back 9 (years) at best.

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5 minutes ago, aylbert said:

But they had to pay him 10.5mm for 8 years, starting next year at age 30…   It locks up a star player, but he is literally on his back 9 (years) at best.

They would've been in about the same boat had they signed JG, which they were willing to do...JG just didn't want to be there anymore.  

Yeah those deals are always risky, but at least the Flames get the chance to stay relevant for a while, instead of having to enter a rebuild (which of course doesn't automatically pay off).

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29 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Man, gotta give the Flames some credit here...they were able to make the absolute best out of a potentially brutal situation.  Getting Huberdeau locked up so quickly is impressive.  They basically replaced JG and were able to get some pieces for Tkachuk.  

100% agree. I think it is pretty brutal losing two of the top 20 players in the league. They got Huberdeau and locked him up AND they have Weegar. Calgary's defense is looking strong with him in the top 4.

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11 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

They would've been in about the same boat had they signed JG, which they were willing to do...JG just didn't want to be there anymore.  

Yeah those deals are always risky, but at least the Flames get the chance to stay relevant for a while, instead of having to enter a rebuild (which of course doesn't automatically pay off).

Agreed Calgary needed a "win" after JG and Tkachuk wanted out, but I wouldn't be too excited by this. 

JG signed a 7 year / 9.75mm deal at 28, taking him to 35. 
Huberdeau signed longer, for more money and is 2 years older (on effective dates) with an 8year / 10.5 million deal starting the following season, taking him to 38.     

He's going to be unmovable and eat up a ton of cap space in the end (when they will need to embrace a full rebuild).  
 

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11 minutes ago, aylbert said:

Agreed Calgary needed a "win" after JG and Tkachuk wanted out, but I wouldn't be too excited by this. 

JG signed a 7 year / 9.75mm deal at 28, taking him to 35. 
Huberdeau signed longer, for more money and is 2 years older (on effective dates) with an 8year / 10.5 million deal starting the following season, taking him to 38.     

He's going to be unmovable and eat up a ton of cap space in the end (when they will need to embrace a full rebuild).  
 

Oh there's plenty of "potential ugly" down the line, but the alternative (basically losing JG and Tkachuk for no significant "right now" pieces at all) would've been a lot worse.

If they get at least 4-5 good years out of him (and maybe a couple more "Not what he was but still pretty good" years), they did OK.  Doesn't sound great, but at least their window didn't shut with JG and Tkachuk leaving.  And any team that signs a player to a deal like that knows they're not getting 8 prime years out of such a contract.   

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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

I would love to have Oettinger here and would move either of the other two guys plus to do it. 

 

1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

 

 

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Yep, without a doubt. Not sure how they would clear space in that the pieces they would be trying to unload probably have little value other than maybe VV. It would probably resemble a yard sale?

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18 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I truly can’t imagine Dallas and Oettinger don’t get a deal done, somehow. I’m sure there are pieces they can move out to create cap space. 

I would think they do get a deal done as well, at the same time we should be moving on from some pieces regardless.

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