2021-2022 Around the League thread

[Devil Dan 56]

2 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

A ton of UFAs indeed:

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It's a tough call...they haven't won squat in the playoffs for a while now, though of course, they keep on putting up fine regular season records. 

Keep Malkin, Letang and others (and go all-in) and this year probably represents your best chance to win for a while; blow it up, are you killing any chance of Crosby ever being part of another Cup winner in Pittsburgh?  Can you get solid returns/future assets for guys like Malkin and Letang?  Malkin misses his fair share of games and is now 35 years old...Letang will soon turn 35.  Malkin has NMC and Letang can submit a list of 18 teams he'd be willing to be traded to, so there's that as well.

I get the feeling that because they're still plenty competitive, they take their chances with what they got, and brace for whatever happens this offseason.  

They have nearly 30 million in cap space next year before any re-signings so I suppose they could retool in free agency a bit. But yeah it seems Malkin has a very hard time staying healthy and I’m not sure if another team would be willing to give up much to get him at the deadline if there’s a pretty fair chance he’s hurt before the playoffs again. 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

6 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

They have nearly 30 million in cap space next year before any re-signings so I suppose they could retool in free agency a bit. But yeah it seems Malkin has a very hard time staying healthy and I’m not sure if another team would be willing to give up much to get him at the deadline if there’s a pretty fair chance he’s hurt before the playoffs again. 

I could see the Pens offering 2-3 years to Malkin and Letang (maybe both are willing to take hometown discounts), and then taking a couple more shots while Crosby still has something left.  I don't kid myself, that could end very badly for the Pens in a few years...but at the same time, not sure mid-to-late 30s Malkin and Letang (especially Malkin) fetch as much as some would think.  And sometimes it all does just end with a great big thud.  

[SterioDesign]

1 hour ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Also interesting in our division.., Pittsburgh has a ton of UFAs coming up including Malkin and Letang. They are pretty securely set for the playoffs so it’ll be interesting to see how they play this. Could be the end of an era

The inevitable fall of the Pens is something that will come sooner than later and that we have to wish for. It's a cycle and unless they start making big sacrifices for the long term, i believe they'll fall pretty sharply in the next few seasons. Which is ideal for us cause as we progress and get better, "better" teams ahead of us becoming old and over the hill also helps. Same thing with the Capitals and the bruins, etc etc in a few years all their core top players will be too old

[Devil Dan 56]

36 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

The inevitable fall of the Pens is something that will come sooner than later and that we have to wish for. It's a cycle and unless they start making big sacrifices for the long term, i believe they'll fall pretty sharply in the next few seasons. Which is ideal for us cause as we progress and get better, "better" teams ahead of us becoming old and over the hill also helps. Same thing with the Capitals and the bruins, etc etc in a few years all their core top players will be too old

I’m honestly shocked they’ve been competitive this long. Many predicted they were done a few years back. I just can’t see them giving in to a rebuild until Crosby is retired but once that happens…. yeesh. Gonna be ugly over there. 

[mfitz804]

12 hours ago, Nicomo said:

There’s a reason this board is down to like 7 people that post here anymore. Folks can only take reading the same sh!t over and over and over and over and over again so many times. But by all means - defend your client, counselor. 

You act like other people, yourself included, don’t say the same thing over and over again. But he gets called out on it every time just because you don’t like him. 

[mfitz804]

11 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Post whatever the fvck you want, but if people find you exhausting don’t be surprised if they let you know. 

Yet every time someone posts about advanced stats and I let them know that they don’t show anything, I get criticized for responding but the person who posted about advanced stats for the 900th time, that’s just fine. 

It’s funny that SD gets called a gatekeeper. 

[SterioDesign]

1 minute ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I’m honestly shocked they’ve been competitive this long. Many predicted they were done a few years back. I just can’t see them giving in to a rebuild until Crosby is retired but once that happens…. yeesh. Gonna be ugly over there. 

Yeah... and Letang, Malkin and Crosby said they wanted to stay together until they retire. So its great for them and some may say they "deserve it", but its also a business and this would ruin their franchise for at least a decade before they can rebuild. You simply can't let those 3 guys walk into the sunset if your team can't compete anymore, you need to be able to get flexibility or assets for the future to jumpstart a re-tool or rebuild era post-crosby.

Now, i know what i'm about to say is easier said than done. But the only way it could work is if.... those boys sit together, fully understand the situation and how their own intentions WILL cripple the franchise. So a solution would be if they'd decide to stay, but all take a dirt cheap contract, like... dirt cheap... that way, sure the team doesnt get any asset back BUT they get cap relief that can help the team make moves and plan for the future. That IMO would be a decent tradeoff.

But of course it's easier to say on a forum online that you should take a huge discount and NOT make those extra millions lol

4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Yet every time someone posts about advanced stats and I let them know that they don’t show anything, I get criticized for responding but the person who posted about advanced stats for the 900th time, that’s just fine. 

It’s funny that SD gets called a gatekeeper. 

double standards is nothing new around here lol

[mfitz804]

1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

double standards is nothing new around here lol

Don’t say that, you just made another two people leave!!

[Nicomo]

26 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

You act like other people, yourself included, don’t say the same thing over and over again. But he gets called out on it every time just because you don’t like him. 

I actually do like him. We have similar tastes in movies, music, etc. And I think he generally knows what he’s talking about when it comes to hockey. But he just can’t help himself when it comes to one particular topic. And I always wish he’d give it a rest whenever he starts in on it again. 

Also, what exactly do I repeat over and over? Too much positivity about one of our young players? How awful. 

[SterioDesign]

1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

I actually do like him. We have similar tastes in movies, music, etc. And I think he generally knows what he’s talking about when it comes to hockey. But he just can’t help himself when it comes to one particular topic. And I always wish he’d give it a rest whenever he starts in on it again. 

Also, what exactly do I repeat over and over? Too much positivity about one of our young players? How awful. 

dude did you read my other post? I brought up how I commented about the situation of literally over 10 teams recently. MOMENTS AGO i commented on the Pens and their tricky situation. I talk about all teams and their situations and decisions. I talked about the Islanders and why they are struggling right now. It's 100% relevant. If i talk about 12 teams and that all my comments are consistent, yet you get triggered by ONE of those because of who is the GM (which i didn't even name in my post) and see this as if i "can't help myself", you're the one choosing to see it that way. 

[mfitz804]

16 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

I actually do like him. We have similar tastes in movies, music, etc. And I think he generally knows what he’s talking about when it comes to hockey. But he just can’t help himself when it comes to one particular topic. And I always wish he’d give it a rest whenever he starts in on it again. 

Also, what exactly do I repeat over and over? Too much positivity about one of our young players? How awful. 

Does it make a difference? If your problem is people repeating things over and over, you’re a main offender. 

Nobody posts during these long breaks.  SD posts something’s bout another team, in the thread that is for that purpose, and you immediately have a problem with it. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by mfitz804

[SterioDesign]

1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Does it make a difference? If your problem is people repeating things over and over, you’re a main offender. 

Nobody posts during these long breaks.  sad posts something’s bout another team, in the thread that is for that purpose, and you immediately have a problem with it. 

I'm not sad

[mfitz804]

4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

I'm not sad

Autocorrect is fvcking with me again. 

[Nicomo]

13 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Does it make a difference? If your problem is people repeating things over and over, you’re a main offender. 

Nobody posts during these long breaks.  SD posts something’s bout another team, in the thread that is for that purpose, and you immediately have a problem with it. 

You’ve claimed this twice now. What do I repeat over and over? What am I “known for” here other than being a big Jack Hughes - Stan? 

[mfitz804]

1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

You’ve claimed this twice now. What do I repeat over and over? What am I “known for” here other than being a big Jack Hughes - Stan? 

Yes, you literally repeat that constantly. My problem isn’t with you repeating it, it’s with you telling people not to repeat stuff and then yourself constantly repeating stuff. 

Its pointless gatekeeping, especially during slow times when nobody posts. 

Not to mention, he didn’t even mention Lou. He’s not even allowed to mention the Islanders? 

[Nicomo]

10 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Yes, you literally repeat that constantly. My problem isn’t with you repeating it, it’s with you telling people not to repeat stuff and then yourself constantly repeating stuff. 

Its pointless gatekeeping, especially during slow times when nobody posts. 

Not to mention, he didn’t even mention Lou. He’s not even allowed to mention the Islanders? 

Right. So the topic I “repeat over and over” is just merely my enthusiasm about one of our best players. Again - how terribly obnoxious…

Also, the bold is so incredibly disingenuous. He literally said something like “sounds really familiar” clearly tying it back to the Lou/Devils years. I probably would have scrolled right past that post had he not thrown that little dig in there. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Nicomo

[mfitz804]

3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Right. So the topic I “repeat over and over” is just merely my enthusiasm over one of our best players. Again - how incredibly obnoxious…

The obnoxious part is that you repeat yourself constantly while telling other people it’s annoying that THEY repeat themselves. It’s not about the content, which I made clear in my post and you chose to ignore.

13 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Yes, you literally repeat that constantly. My problem isn’t with you repeating it, it’s with you telling people not to repeat stuff and then yourself constantly repeating stuff. 

Its pointless gatekeeping, especially during slow times when nobody posts. 

Not to mention, he didn’t even mention Lou. He’s not even allowed to mention the Islanders? 

Which is another thing you do constantly. If you are going to argue, argue about what was actually said, not the way you try to twist it. 

[SterioDesign]

10 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Right. So the topic I “repeat over and over” is just merely my enthusiasm about one of our best players. Again - how terribly obnoxious…

Also, the bold is so incredibly disingenuous. He literally said something like “sounds really familiar” clearly tying it back to the Lou/Devils years. I probably would have scrolled right past that post had he not thrown that little dig in there. 

What you fail to understand is that i'm always calling out "that way to run a team", not Lou for being Lou. I called out ANYONE doing it and i'm well on record doing so, I called out Colombus for doing it and losing Bob and Panarin for nothing. I called out many teams doing the same exact thing through the years. I also said the Ducks SHOULDNT do it this year and focus on the long term based on the situation they are in. I addressed how the Pens could try to work around that way of running the team, etc etc And we are the prime example of where you get by running a team that way. Which i've been saying since like 2007. But again, to you when i address how i don't agree with running a team that way... you jump to conclusion that it's a direct jab to Lou personally, when it's just a jab at running a team that way.

And on the flip side i've been giving credits to ANY GM willing to make the right decisions and handle their assets well. Precisely why i was pumped about Shero getting the job here, cause i always loved how he did it in his career.

Edited February 21, 2022 by SterioDesign

[DevilMinder]

[Nicomo]

17 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Overall, this all sound awfully familiar 

 

6 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

But again, to you when i address how i don't agree with running a team that way... you jump to conclusion that it's a direct jab to Lou personally, when it's just a jab at running a team that way.

Hard to read the above remark as anything other than a direct jab at Lou. But it’s whatever. I’ll gladly move on. Boring topic is boring. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Nicomo

[MadDog2020]

ENOUGH. PLEASE. MOVE ON. JUST…. ENOUGH.

Edited February 21, 2022 by MadDog2020

[SterioDesign]

3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Hard to read the above remark as anything other than a direct jab at Lou. But it’s whatever. Boring topic is boring. 

Well thats your choice. They are trending down and there is undeniably paralels to make and see. If you find it boring you're welcome to just ignore.

Now YOU'VE been the one arguing with multiple posters about it and keeping the drama going.

Other posters replied and addressed the post in the sense that it should have been taken and we discussed other teams heading in the same direction like the Pens etc etc and the discussions has been great and insightful. You created the drama here

[Nicomo]

1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

Other posters replied and addressed the post in the sense that it should have been taken and we discussed other teams heading in the same direction like the Pens etc etc and the discussions has been great and insightful. You created the drama here

Well, me and your attorney. But it’s all good. The people have spoken. They clearly want more Lou talk. I’ll just refrain next time. 

[mfitz804]

1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

Well, me and your attorney. But it’s all good. The people have spoken. They clearly want more Lou talk. I’ll just refrain next time. 

 

[SterioDesign]

So last night MTL brought back Hammond from the dead. The last time he played in the NHL was 4 years ago. They are also fvcked in net but i think it's a good indication of how hard it is to get good goalies at the moment. Some teams in the playoffs may want to either stick to their tandem or even getting a better backup and many bottom teams would just want 1 good.

I think this will make Chicago able to get a really decent return on Fleury if they want to move him.

The Rangers however might decide to go all in and bet fully on Shesterkin and trade Georgiev (who requested a trade earlier this season) for something that could help them on the ice rather than a backup on the bench.

Colombus may also have a decision to make with Korpisalo who's heading to free agency and with Merzlikins taking over the #1 roal and signed long term.

Holtby could also be traded potentially maybe.