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37 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said:

Cangelosi calling it an empty net goal by mistake, hahaha! Just a brutal game by Blackwood. Three softies, it's just too hard to overcome.

I mean the last one was deflected off Mercer’s leg, those are hard to stop. But given his track record tonight…

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I mean the last one was deflected off Mercer’s leg, those are hard to stop. But given his track record tonight…

Yeah the two softies prior were bad enough, that last one really didn't matter much anyway. And the giveaway yesterday .... yikes. It's tough to see him play so badly. I don't think he's better than any NHL starting goalie right now. He's definitely in the bottom quarter.

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8 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said:

Yeah the two softies prior were bad enough, that last one really didn't matter much anyway. And the giveaway yesterday .... yikes. It's tough to see him play so badly. I don't think he's better than any NHL starting goalie right now. He's definitely in the bottom quarter.

Hard to believe he still has more regulation wins than losses right now. 

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52 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

That's such a canard...Panarin was just fine under Torts, same with the Tampa guys when they were young guns.

And it always ends badly after a relatively short amount of time with him. Players can only take him for so long. It’s been the case at every every single stop.

But hey, if you guys are clamoring for an old school coach that will bench skills guys like Jack and Bratt in favor of his favorite plugs, then he’s your guy!

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4 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Btw Blackwood is now at .895 sv %. 

He’s approaching Keith Kinkaid’s last year in NJ level bad. 

Yeah it’s not good. I do believe he can improve upon it, but the last two games he’s going on the opposite direction with these gaffes. 

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

Btw Blackwood is now at .895 sv %. 

Would have been awesome in 1985. Unfortunately it's 2022. 

Regarding Tortorella, I think he should be considered. More often than not, he got his good players to play consistently well. He helped make Vincent Lecavalier a better player. Things were pretty rocky between the two of them in the beginning. Tortorella benched him for poor defensive play. You want a coach who's not afraid to do that. And you can't be afraid that a tough coach is going to break Jack Hughes or Jesper Bratt like they're china or something.

Lecavalier and the Lightning is just one example. In Columbus, Atkinson and others bought into Tortorella's style. And they had success, certainly more than what we've had.

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I still want Jim Montgomery. He won a national championship at Denver, so you know he can effectively coach players around the age of our core. And he was doing a great job in Dallas before his personal issues came out. If all that stuff is beyond him he’d be my first choice. 

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

I still want Jim Montgomery. He won a national championship at Denver, so you know he can effectively coach players around the age of our core. And he was doing a great job in Dallas before his personal issues came out. If all that stuff is beyond him he’d be my first choice. 

I think he’d be a great candidate. 

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1 minute ago, CarpathianForest said:

What goalies are out there that we could perhaps get? One goalie and another D Man so Smith can be sent down. 

If Tuukka Rask returns to the Bruins, that probably leaves Linus Ullmark as the odd man out.

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8 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I still want Jim Montgomery. He won a national championship at Denver, so you know he can effectively coach players around the age of our core. And he was doing a great job in Dallas before his personal issues came out. If all that stuff is beyond him he’d be my first choice. 

I’d love to get Monty out of St Louis and right this disaster. Question is will he take another HC job or is his (I think) front office job enough for now.
 

My main advocacy for Torts is he isn’t a players coach that will kiss their collective asses, and, when the team gets absolutely screwed, he will blow a gasket. Torts is great at accountability. He also benches talent when talent thinks it can drive victories on their talent alone, almost the Herb Brooks approach. You’re not wrong at all that he has a history of benching guys with skill, but also look at who it was: Laine who plays hard when he feels like it, and PLD, who did exactly the same. He’d change the culture, which regardless for better or worse, lets be honest it can’t get much worse than the pathetic sh!t we’ve been spoon fed.

 I don’t think torts would be a death sentence for Jack cause Jack actually gives a fvck and plays his nuts off every night and on both sides of the puck. Jack is a consummate team player who pulls his teammates to new levels regardless of how he is personally playing. Torts loves those types of players.

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20 minutes ago, jagknife said:

I’d love to get Monty out of St Louis and right this disaster. Question is will he take another HC job or is his (I think) front office job enough for now.
 

My main advocacy for Torts is he isn’t a players coach that will kiss their collective asses, and, when the team gets absolutely screwed, he will blow a gasket. Torts is great at accountability. He also benches talent when talent thinks it can drive victories on their talent alone, almost the Herb Brooks approach. You’re not wrong at all that he has a history of benching guys with skill, but also look at who it was: Laine who plays hard when he feels like it, and PLD, who did exactly the same. He’d change the culture, which regardless for better or worse, lets be honest it can’t get much worse than the pathetic sh!t we’ve been spoon fed.

 I don’t think torts would be a death sentence for Jack cause Jack actually gives a fvck and plays his nuts off every night and on both sides of the puck. Jack is a consummate team player who pulls his teammates to new levels regardless of how he is personally playing. Torts loves those types of players.

Montgomery is currently an assistant coach for STL I believe. 

As for Torts, I’ve always casually followed the Jackets being in Ohio, and I’ve just heard too much negative sh!t about the way he interacts with his players over the years. He gets results (for the most part), but it also comes at a cost. I think he’s much better suited for an older, more veteran team, too. Just like Zajac said he didn’t feel like he “fit in” with our young guys, I don’t think Torts would really be a good fit either.

Fair point on Jack though. I don’t think any coach could ever question his effort. 

But honestly it’s like you said, it’s hard to imagine it being much worse than the staff we have right now. I guess I’d be almost willing to give anyone a try if it meant cleaning house, and getting some new assistants. 

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6 hours ago, slasher72 said:

I'd take Ullmark on this team in a second and make Blackwood the backup.

I might even stop calling him Pen!s Ullmark. 

Ok I definitely wouldn’t, but I would be saying it out of love. 

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4 hours ago, jagknife said:

They’ll probably send Swayman down as he’s waivers exempt and keep Ullmark as insurance.

Ullmark has a substantial deal so you're probably right. Is Swayman a player worth trying to acquire? I can't help but think Boston will deal a goalie to get forward help. We could be a good match for a trade.

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You know it’s bad when me, DM84, would take KK back as our goalie over Blackwood right now.  3 of the 5 goals against last night he HAS to stop.  He’s just terrible out there and while the D has plenty of blame (looking at you Smith) the Devils likely would have won if not for Blackwood.

If Blackwood’s heel the cause of this, then the Devils must put anyone in net until he’s fully healed.  I’m fine with seeing Gillies and Schmid for 2-4 weeks.  Devils are not doing themselves any favors with having Blackwood play as one of the worst goalies in the league, starter and backups included.

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5 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

You know it’s bad when me, DM84, would take KK back as our goalie over Blackwood right now.  3 of the 5 goals against last night he HAS to stop.  He’s just terrible out there and while the D has plenty of blame (looking at you Smith) the Devils likely would have won if not for Blackwood.

If Blackwood’s heel the cause of this, then the Devils must put anyone in net until he’s fully healed.  I’m fine with seeing Gillies and Schmid for 2-4 weeks.  Devils are not doing themselves any favors with having Blackwood play as one of the worst goalies in the league, starter and backups included.

I’m pretty sure we could get him and pay him in Chipotle gift cards. 

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2 hours ago, Jerrydevil said:

Ullmark has a substantial deal so you're probably right. Is Swayman a player worth trying to acquire? I can't help but think Boston will deal a goalie to get forward help. We could be a good match for a trade.

I think Swayman is looked at as Rask’s replacement when that time comes in Boston. My guess is they’d prefer to hang on to all 3 depending on Rasks future plans. If he’s hanging around for a couple years, Ullmark may be on the table. It’ll also hinge on if they believe Bernier can actually return next season. A major hip injury in your 30’s can be dangerous as we’ve unfortunately seen

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11 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I think Swayman is looked at as Rask’s replacement when that time comes in Boston. My guess is they’d prefer to hang on to all 3 depending on Rasks future plans. If he’s hanging around for a couple years, Ullmark may be on the table. It’ll also hinge on if they believe Bernier can actually return next season. A major hip injury in your 30’s can be dangerous as we’ve unfortunately seen

If it were me, I would be looking to find any way to not have Bernier on this team next season. Unless he has the mist successful hip surgery and recovery in history, it's not going to be good. I base this on his age and his position, has to be 1000% times worse for a goalie than a position player. 

If Ullmark were available, I would see what I had to do to get him. I wanted him last offseason, just based off of how well he played against us while in Buffalo. 

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