SterioDesign Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said: Knight is an expensive option. There are cheaper ways to fix our goaltending problem. Hopefully our GM is turning over stones. Getting a good defensive coach who can get the D to help our goalies would be an inexpensive option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said: You almost have to make these kinds of trades in a risky position. You have to make it worth Florida's while to deal Knight, and trading them two players that can help propel the Panthers to a championship is the kind of thing that might work. If I were Florida, I wouldn't do it for Severson and our first-round pick. Not a good enough return. Yeah what the Devils really need but don't have is a healthy and productive 1B early-mid 30s vet to include in a trade...a guy who may never be as good as Knight will be in a few years, but is clearly better than him right now. 1 minute ago, Jerrydevil said: Knight is an expensive option. There are cheaper ways to fix our goaltending problem. Hopefully our GM is turning over stones. Yeah, you're giving up a lot, and even though I would give up this year's first (as long as it's not too too high of a pick) and other pieces to bring him in, sure there's cheaper ways to fix this. Admittedly I have no idea who's available (as has been noted, I doubt Knight is). And who knows, maybe Deadwood bounces back next year (if he's still here)...I just don't have any confidence in that happening. SD just raised a fair point...how about a coach that actually has the slightest clue how to coach defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Getting a good defensive coach who can get the D to help our goalies would be an inexpensive option I'd go for the expensive option here. Tortorella as head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Given the way the team is playing I'd likely be beyond the point where I continue to care about the season, but because they hadn't played as much I wasn't there yet. Last night def pushed me over the line. I am ready for the off-season/draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansinz88 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 8 hours ago, MB3 said: What if the panthers offered you Spencer Knight straight up for Jesper Bratt and Damon Severson at the deadline? They get a really good bottom pairing defenseman, a young stud forward and still roll with Bob in the playoffs? In a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Jesper Bratt is our leading scorer, and the only good winger we have. I’m not trading him for an unproven young goalie. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Jesper Bratt is our leading scorer, and the only good winger we have. I’m not trading him for an unproven young goalie. I was never in favor of moving Bratt, but definitely not now. If Holtz turns into something, a Holtz-Hughes-Bratt line sounds pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, MB3 said: I understand the whole “unproven” thing, but this is a 20-year old kid who’s one of the highest rated goaltending prospects of the past 25 years. Him NOT turning into a perennial Vezina candidate would be shocking. I mean, before Knight and Askarov - Carter Hart was supposed to be the next big thing… goalies are just so hard to predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, MB3 said: I understand the whole “unproven” thing, but this is a 20-year old kid who’s one of the highest rated goaltending prospects of the past 25 years. Him NOT turning into a perennial Vezina candidate would be shocking. Based on what exactly? Goalies are SO unpredictable. Didn't you see Askarov who was the top rated goalie since Price... sh!tting the bed in juniors, twice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, MB3 said: carter hart was taken in the second round. askarov is 19. if you guys are giving up on him that quickly, yikes. carter was still "one of the highest rated goalie" before he made the nhl, which is the term you brought up. doesn't matter where he was picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) If we will trade Bratt it will be stupid. Even for Spencer Knight. Bratt is the second best player of this team. And I love how Nico play, I love his two way game. But other than Jack and Bratt we dont have anyone who can drive the play. Absolutely no one. Holtz will never be that kind of driver, may be Mercer will, but we don`t know that for now. And I dont think Florida will trade Spencer for now. Especially for a player, who will ask 6+ mil. They will sign Huberdau this summer and dont have much under the cap. Quote I'd go for the expensive option here. Tortorella as head coach. This is not as crazy idea as we might think. Tortorella is a scapegoat coach. If he will agree - you can hire him and no one will be surprised, if you will fire him after. I`m not tellin i wanna hire him, but i`m not totally against it. Edited January 21, 2022 by Guadana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Guadana said: If we will trade Bratt it will be stupid. Even for Spencer Knight. Bratt is the second best player of this team. And I love how Nico play, I love his two way game. But other than Jack and Bratt we dont have anyone who can drive the play. Absolutely no one. Holtz will never be that kind of driver, may be Mercer will, but we don`t know that for now. And I dont think Florida will trade Spencer for now. Especially for a player, who will ask 6+ mil. They will sign Huberdau this summer and dont have much under the cap. This is not as crazy idea as we might think. Tortorella is a scapegoat coach. If he will agree - you can hire him and no one will be surprised, if you will fire him after. I`m not tellin i wanna hire him, but i`m not totally against it. It's just fans spitballing...I don't think any of us really believe that Knight would be available...like I've pointed out, given Bob's age, Knight could very well be in perfect position to split time and possibly be the 1A in a 1A/1B tandem in 3 years, while still in his early 20s...the Panthers have set themselves up tremendously well for the future, and even though Knight's playing with the big club, the Panthers don't have to rush him, as far as asking too much of a 20-year-old. Barring an insane offer, Florida has absolutely no reason to deal him. The only thing I wonder about re: the Panthers' handling of Knight to date is should he getting more playing time in the AHL? He's only started 12 games to date (appeared in relief in 3 other games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansinz88 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: It's just fans spitballing...I don't think any of us really believe that Knight would be available...like I've pointed out, given Bob's age, Knight could very well be in perfect position to split time and possibly be the 1A in a 1A/1B tandem in 3 years, while still in his early 20s...the Panthers have set themselves up tremendously well for the future, and even though Knight's playing with the big club, the Panthers don't have to rush him, as far as asking too much of a 20-year-old. Barring an insane offer, Florida has absolutely no reason to deal him. The only thing I wonder about re: the Panthers' handling of Knight to date is should he getting more playing time in the AHL? He's only started 12 games to date (appeared in relief in 3 other games). Highly unlikely Florida would part with him to begin with. But you have to give to get and the only player I think Florida would consider trading knight for would be bratt. Unfortunately. But won’t happen. We need goaltending though. In a bad way. Clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Not sure giving up Bratt for a goalie makes sense unless it's been made aware to the Devils that Bratt is seeking a 7MM+ deal or something that the Devils would not be interested in. The wingers on this team suck. We have maybe 2 legit top-6 wingers at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said: Not sure giving up Bratt for a goalie makes sense unless it's been made aware to the Devils that Bratt is seeking a 7MM+ deal or something that the Devils would not be interested in. The wingers on this team suck. We have maybe 2 legit top-6 wingers at this point. We have only one. Zacha isn`t NHL winger when he can`t score. He doesnt try to force position, he isnt good in forecheck and lose boards battles(that is funny for a guy of his size), he cant to play against in neutral zone and on the blue lines. He has great hands but he needs open ice to use it, why he was so good in PP, 4 on 4, 3 on 3. Ofcourse we need in pp specialist, but now he is off and it doesnt work. Nico did make better play with Bastian and Vesey, 4th liners. But they did dirty work and that makes Nico job much easier and makes a lot of spaves for him. I`m not sain we must use Bastian and Vesey as top-6 wingers. I`m sain we must find wingers who can do a lot of work. Yegor isn`t consistent. He had a long year, but for now he isn`t consistent. I can`t be sure he will be our top-6 player. And what we have? Only Bratt. Tatar? Meh. Hope everybody understand now why clubs with ambitions didn`t use him as top-6 regular player in play-off games. I`m not against him, he is ok for his role for the next two years, but he isn`t leading player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Crazy part about Tatar is that's only three points off his career average pace right now. So this is... this is kinda what you get from the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: Crazy part about Tatar is that's only three points off his career average pace right now. So this is... this is kinda what you get from the guy. Tatar put up a rate of 66 pts per 82 GP in 2018-19 and 2019-20...I get the feeling Fitz thought he might be able to regain that form, especially with Nico or Jack centering him. Clearly hasn't happened...he's quickly become one of those guys you just don't expect much from. Reminds me a bit of Michael Ryder, though a little less meh. At any rate, he's a movable stopgap...Fitz can deal him off pretty easily this offseason...only one year left, and his money is not insane by any stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said: Crazy part about Tatar is that's only three points off his career average pace right now. So this is... this is kinda what you get from the guy. He played well against the Coyotes despite not scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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