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Just now, devlman said:

Why does Graves leave the man open in the slot to go chase the puck carrier? Hate hate hate this system

It’s the system like you said. They run a chicken with the head chopped off defense. And yet they are still employed as as professional coaches.

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39 minutes ago, devlman said:

Having ‘doubts’ without incorporating any context are irrational doubts

Yeah but i'm really wondering why you're responding this to me when i made it clear i was talking about the fans bringing up his rookie season stats. Which were the lowest out of all first overall picks (outside of goalies) since 1998. That is 100% a fair context to bring up and certainly NOT a "without incorporating any context".

Nobody said he was a bust, it was just said he had to get better at some aspect of his game, which he did. Vinny Lecavalier turned out pretty great too. To say no conversations about his potential were warranted after posting these stats are just as wrong

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8 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Yeah but i'm really wondering why you're responding this to me when i made it clear i was talking about the fans bringing up his rookie season stats. Which were the lowest out of all first overall picks (outside of goalies) since 1998. That is 100% a fair context to bring up.

Nobody said he was a bust, it was just said he had to get better at some aspect of his game, which he did. Vinny Lecavalier turned out pretty great too. To say no conversations about his potential were warranted after posting these stats are just as wrong

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I’m not getting into this but again you’re missing context all over the place here. Age, stature, linemates, covid, etc…Having conversations about his potential based on ppg was indeed just as asinine now as it was then.

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1 minute ago, devlman said:

I’m not getting into this but again you’re missing context all over the place here. Age, stature, linemates, etc…Having conversations about his potential based on ppg was indeed just as asinine now as it was then.

I'm not missing context, I'm not even saying i agreed with the statement personally. But i can understand why some people felt that way and it's perfectly understandable and they should have the right to have those conversation. Most first overall picks played on sh!t teams with not great linemates, that's generally why they get to pick first overall. I bet you don't have much context either and couldn't name the linemates of 80% (or more) of those first overall during their first season, their age or anything either. You just have a fixed belief and stick to it.

Gotta love the gatekeeping from people who just can't accept alternative opinions. You don't have to agree or anything, just let them have those conversations.

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3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

I'm not missing context, I'm not even saying i agreed with the statement personally. But i can understand why some people felt that way and it's perfectly understandable and they should have the right to have those conversation. Most first overall picks played on sh!t teams with not great linemates, that's generally why they get to pick first overall. I bet you don't have much context either and couldn't name the linemates of 80% (or more) of those first overall during their first season, their age or anything either. You just have a fixed belief and stick to it.

Gotta love the gatekeeping from people who just can't accept alternative opinions. You don't have to agree or anything, just let them have those conversations.

Please stop. 

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“Gatekeeping” is becoming one of those annoyingly overused terms.  Just because I think concern over a 1OA’s performance in his very first season is a bit premature and/or silly doesn’t mean I’m telling people not to talk about it.  

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