SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, MB3 said: schneider trade was bad because it was a team on the steady decline for a goalie who didn't fit any remote window. this is a team on the up-swing badly in need of a starting goaltender. (I also don't think you can compare SV% stats across different seasons like that. Everyone had a career scoring year this year, and even the best goalies in the world like Vasilevski weren't in the 92's.) I asked if you'd trade the 2nd overall for Gibson and 10th overall. That's not the same thing as 2nd overall for Gibson straight up. thats true but i also said that i don't want gibson at all. So it would be like trading the 2nd overall for the 10th overall for me and for all we know, Gibson might win the vezina this year and im eating crows. who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MB3 said: Buccigross saying he thinks Tkachuk will be traded from Calgary. Does 2OA, Holtz, and another prospect get it done? I'd be the happiest fan on the planet here if we pulled this off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, MB3 said: schneider trade was bad because it was a team on the steady decline for a goalie who didn't fit any remote window. this is a team on the up-swing badly in need of a starting goaltender. (I also don't think you can compare SV% stats across different seasons like that. Everyone had a career scoring year this year, and even the best goalies in the world like Vasilevski weren't in the 92's.) I asked if you'd trade the 2nd overall for Gibson and 10th overall. That's not the same thing as 2nd overall for Gibson straight up. That's fair. My qualifier was mostly tongue in cheek based on how hilariously similar my hand picked seasons were. But I still don't think I would want to move down that far for John Gibson. Like SD said, it would have to be a legit fvcking goalie which I don't think you will find. Gibson seems to be getting worse and not better. Emphasis on seems because I don't watch that many Ducks games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 if Georgiev is traded for a few picks and no first round is involved. No way in hell i'm giving a first for gibson who's play has been going downhill mostly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: I hear you….. it is a lot. But Matthew Tkachuk is EXACTLY what we need. I mean, he checks every box. So I’ll pay the hefty price for him if that’s what it takes. I just think he’d be a perfect fit. I would make the trade for a proven guy who's done it at this level instead of hoping a combination of others work out over time. Especially a guy like Tkachuk that brings things none of these guys do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 JFresh had me for a min: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Crisis said: Wouldn't it be 2oa for Chychrun + 3oa? Assuming this is if Montreal takes Slafkovsky. I can’t imagine they trade Chychrun to move up one spot though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SterioDesign said: We do have "decent" players that we can easily include in trade packages that are not 100% useless (some are close to 100% but not 100%) Tatar, Zacha, Johnsson, Kuokkanen, Boqvist could all be traded and i dont think we'd be missing a beat. Where are the “decent” players on that list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Where are the “decent” players on that list? Well i think they are decent. Years ago we didn't even have that and had to trade something we wanted to keep to get anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Well i think they are decent. Years ago we didn't even have that and had to trade something we wanted to keep to get anything else You do??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slasher72 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, MB3 said: Hmmmmmmmmmm. Would you trade 2OA for John Gibson and 10OA? Absolutely not. His best days are likely behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, Bonginator11 said: I’m all about this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD16W Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I would like to see more trade proposals with Ty Smith involved. He's pathetic defensively. Offensively all he does is lob weak wrist shots into a pile of players in front of the net. He's the worst player in the entire league. I'd give him away for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, NJD16W said: I would like to see more trade proposals with Ty Smith involved. He's pathetic defensively. Offensively all he does is lob weak wrist shots into a pile of players in front of the net. He's the worst player in the entire league. I'd give him away for free. 100%. Put Smith, Zacha, and Johnsson in some sort of trade package and ship them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD16W Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said: I’m all about this! Chicago could have been the perfect trade down partner if they didn't send their pick to Columbus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, MB3 said: these posts always make me lol. 12 months ago he was one of the most exciting young defensive players in hockey. the devils can control him for several more years. why sell low? trade him at his absolute lowest value? Some teams may still see his potential in a trade though. Its a timing thing. If we can get something worth his projected value and that it works. why not We have Graves, Siegenthaler and Luke Hughes is coming up... unless we move one to the right side, there's no room for all those guys anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bonginator11 said: By "a lot of wheels in motion", maybe that means today is the day we finally trade Zacha, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I just hope we're not ending the day with a feeling that wtv moves we made are a big risk or something we're not sure if its going to work. I want to be pumped lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NJDevils1214 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, slasher72 said: Absolutely not. His best days are likely behind him. Why do you say this? He's only 24 and has never failed to put up at least 40pts a season(and that was in a really bad year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, MB3 said: these posts always make me lol. 12 months ago he was one of the most exciting young defensive players in hockey. the devils can control him for several more years. why sell low? trade him at his absolute lowest value? Of course we should move him, should be an easy upgrade too, as I am sure there are a bunch of teams who would fight it out to give us the best offer on “the worst player in the league”. 29 minutes ago, slasher72 said: Absolutely not. His best days are likely behind him. 1 minute ago, NJDevils1214 said: Why do you say this? He's only 24 and has never failed to put up at least 40pts a season(and that was in a really bad year). This has me scratching my head as well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: We have Graves, Siegenthaler and Luke Hughes is coming up... unless we move one to the right side, there's no room for all those guys anyway We have Graves for this season, maybe less if he gets shipped at the deadline. He’s been ok, but I don’t have him in the “absolutely must re-sign” category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, SterioDesign said: We do have "decent" players that we can easily include in trade packages that are not 100% useless (some are close to 100% but not 100%) Tatar, Zacha, Johnsson, Kuokkanen, Boqvist could all be traded and i dont think we'd be missing a bea 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Where are the “decent” players on that list? great question. Those guys aren't assets that are bringing back much of anything that's going to help this team now. I think the term JAG was created for most if not all of them. "Decent" isn't good enough or shouldn't be at this point. So much "decent" in your lineup gets you out of the playoff picture by the end of Nov. Still hoping the bar gets raised and we're not stuck with decent and so much of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, titans04 said: great question. Those guys aren't assets that are bringing back much of anything that's going to help this team now. I think the term JAG was created for most if not all of them. "Decent" isn't good enough or shouldn't be at this point. So much "decent" in your lineup gets you out of the playoff picture by the end of Nov. Still hoping the bar gets raised and we're not stuck with decent and so much of it. I'll say it again, ALL I SAID is that these are guys we can trade without skipping a beat and that we can throw in a trade package. I never said they could bring anything amazing or anything like that, i literally just said we can get rid of those guys. They are just taking room on the lineup or doesn't really fit anywhere. These are guys we can completely remove from the team, ideally through trade so that their salary is off the book. Addition by substraction. These guys combine for more than 10m per season. Some guys are talking about Gaudreau or forsberg being too expensive. I'd take any of those 2 instead of Tatar, Zacha, Kuokanen pis johnsson, and just move up cheap youngsters. Is this clear boys? Edited July 7, 2022 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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