CarpathianForest Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Well wtv... i would have liked to get Debrincat... BUT he's smaller and we need to acquire size for our top line. The ideal scenario for me was always to keep our pick, trade for a top top perfect match like Tkachuk... and just sign a free agent like Gaudreau or Forsberg. So im fine with this. Maybe means that Fitz has something even better down his sleeve Fitz by Tom Fitzgerald? Our gm? You sure you got the right guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: So im fine with this. Maybe means that Fitz has something even better down his sleeve 11 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Once you do if he's looking for more work give me his number i clearly need that too. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Ottawa is putting together quite a little group DeBrincat Norris Stützle Tkachuk Batherson Joseph Formenton Brown Pinto Too bad they will lose most of them when it comes time for re-sign them to a big contract lol Just now, mfitz804 said: Ok. god damnit lolol Up his sleeve*** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Well wtv... i would have liked to get Debrincat... BUT he's smaller and we need to acquire size for our top line. The ideal scenario for me was always to keep our pick, trade for a top top perfect match like Tkachuk... and just sign a free agent like Gaudreau or Forsberg. So im fine with this. Maybe means that Fitz has something even better down his sleeve Down his sleeve for sure since his head is too busy being up his ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Okay so all that said, if DeBrincat is only worth 7th + 39 + 3rd round next year that sort of sets the market for Tkachuk doesn't it? Maybe the 2OA+ really does get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: god damnit lolol Up his sleeve*** Maybe that's the problem, he keeps looking down his sleeve instead of up. Just now, MB3 said: Maybe. Maybe Fitz didn't want to include a 2nd round pick and assumed nobody would beat his offer. DeBrincat has 2 40-goal campaigns (he really has 3 if you count the shortened season). How don't you make that happen, lol. Obviously we'll never know what happened but it does feel like a big miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Well get nothing as far as trades go and we’ll like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 15 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Hahahahhahahahahahaha and you guys still defend Failure Fitz???!!!??!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, DevsMan84 said: Hahahahhahahahahahaha and you guys still defend Failure Fitz???!!!??!!! I object to making this "a thing" for personal reasons lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 lol no one that the Devils are choosing at #2 will score 40-50 goals a season for the next several years. Holy sh!t is Fitz bad at his job. Fire this fvcking failure already lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, DevsMan84 said: Hahahahhahahahahahaha and you guys still defend Failure Fitz???!!!??!!! Can you at the very least wait til the end of the draft to be a fvcking moron, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Fitz gets a lot of credit from me for getting Dougie, but so help me God if he goes off the board at #2 or something. I mean we were literally gifted an insane asset. How the fvck do we not do something with it here. Drafting a kid who's not NHL ready makes no sense with our timeline. It's okay, we have time. 2.5 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, SterioDesign said: Can you at the very least wait til the end of the draft to be a fvcking moron, please. Do you really think Fitz is going to make a trade for a better player for that little of a return?!? If he doesn't get Tkachuk will that finally convince you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, SterioDesign said: Can you at the very least wait til the end of the draft to be a fvcking moron, please. No one knows what other talks are going around that include that pick and some other package. Be patient before we just jump off a bridge. I wanted cat too but let’s see if something else surfaces that could be equal or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Devilsfan118 said: Fitz gets a lot of credit from me for getting Dougie, but so help me God if he goes off the board at #2 or something. I mean we were literally gifted an insane asset. How the fvck do we not do something with it here. Drafting a kid who's not NHL ready makes no sense with our timeline. It's okay, we have time. 2.5 hours. If Fitz uses his #2 overall pick at this point I want him shot into the sun. It's very unlikely any of the top 5 projected players are going to be anywhere good as DeBrincat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, DevsMan84 said: Do you really think Fitz is going to make a trade for a better player for that little of a return?!? If he doesn't get Tkachuk will that finally convince you? I said this even before the trade. i said this weeks ago. The best possible scenario for us this summer is to KEEP that pick OR get the perfect return for it (Debrincat is NOT the ideal. Debrincat, Hughes and Bratt wouldn't do too well in the playoffs, way too small overall) And sign a top winger like Gaudreau or Forsberg for free. Having Gaudreau AND Slafkosky / Wright / Cooley. Is a LOT better than just having Debrincat. I don't care how stubborn you are. And if we're trading the pick, it better be for someone like Tkachuk where there's no downside getting him. So if that's the plan, im good for it. 4 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said: No one knows what other talks are going around that include that pick and some other package. Be patient before we just jump off a bridge. I wanted cat too but let’s see if something else surfaces that could be equal or better. I wanted Cat too but not with the 2nd overall pick. i said this many many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, MB3 said: If the Devils draft Slafkovsky with 2OA, I'll be okay that they passed this up. He's a day-1 NHLer that can slide on Jack's wing and immediately help the team. If it winds up being another "wait a few years" guy like Cooley, Jiricek or Nemec and Fitz prioritized that over a 3-time 40-goal scoring 24 year old, I'll be.... I'll be unhappy lol. I have to imagine they were asking for something else from us that we didn't want to give. Can't have just been the picks... ...I mean it could have been, I just hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: I said this even before the trade. i said this weeks ago. The best possible scenario for us this summer is to KEEP that pick OR get the perfect return for it (Debrincat is NOT the ideal. Debrincat, Hughes and Bratt wouldn't do too well in the playoffs, way too small overall) And sign a top winger like Gaudreau or Forsberg for free. Having Gaudreau AND Slafkosky / Wright / Cooley. Is a LOT better than just having Debrincat. I don't care how stubborn you are. And if we're trading the pick, it better be for someone like Tkachuk where there's no downside getting him. So if that's the plan, im good for it. I wanted Cat too but not with the 2nd overall pick. i said this many many times You are concerned about DeBrincat's size but not Gaudreau? And Gaudreau is 5 years older and will likely be declining for the second half of whatever contract we sign him to? DeBrincat will very likely be better than any of the top 5 draft picks. This is the perfect draft to trade the 2nd overall since it's relatively weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I have to imagine they were asking for something else from us that we didn't want to give. Can't have just been the picks... ...I mean it could have been, I just hope not. Devils 2nd overall beats anything in the Ottawa offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Perhaps Fitz is waiting to see where MTL goes to pull the trigger. Or maybe he's just got his head up his ass. Both are valid reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, CarpathianForest said: Perhaps Fitz is waiting to see where MTL goes to pull the trigger. Or maybe he's just got his head up his ass. Both are valid reasons Maybe Calgary (or whoever else) waits to see who's there at 2OA before committing to the trade. We shall see soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Just now, DevsMan84 said: You are concerned about DeBrincat's size but not Gaudreau? And Gaudreau is 5 years older and will likely be declining for the second half of whatever contract we sign him to? DeBrincat will very likely be better than any of the top 5 draft picks. This is the perfect draft to trade the 2nd overall since it's relatively weak. Yeah but we're not comparing Debrincat and Gaudreau. That's what you're too stubborn to even see. Gaudreau + Slafkovsky > Debrincat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, CarpathianForest said: Perhaps Fitz is waiting to see where MTL goes to pull the trigger. Or maybe he's just got his head up his ass. Both are valid reasons I'm guessing the latter is more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJD16W Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I guess reserving judgement until seeing what the Devils actually do is too much to ask? There are clearly better value options than trading away literally everything for just Debrincat. We really don't need another forward that weighs 16 pounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wensink Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: Yeah but we're not comparing Debrincat and Gaudreau. That's what you're too stubborn to even see. Gaudreau + Slafkovsky > Debrincat Gaudreau + Wright > Debrincat as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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