grcenter47 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) i was wondering how likely do you think these players will become a Devil during free agency UFA Johnny Gaudreau Ondrej Palat Valeri Nichushkin Andre Burakovsky Claude Giroux RFA Matthew Tkachuk Jason Robertson Patrik Laine Edited July 11, 2022 by grcenter47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Dream: Gad, Tkachuk, Palat, Giroux Reality: Kessel, Ladd, PK Soupcan, Loui Ericksson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, CarpathianForest said: Dream: Gad, Tkachuk, Palat, Giroux Reality: Kessel, Ladd, PK Soupcan, Loui Ericksson Well this is just fvckin doom and gloom. I dont want any of those “reality” players you have there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said: Well this is just fvckin doom and gloom. I dont want any of those “reality” players you have there Well how Dustin Brown, David Perron or Jay Beagle? There's Alexander Radulov assuming he doesn't jump ship in the middle of the season Edited July 11, 2022 by CarpathianForest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: Well how Dustin Brown, David Perron or Jay Beagle? There's Alexander Radulov assuming he doesn't jump ship in the middle of the season Radulov, 4 goals and 18 assists in like 71 games this past season? If those stats are correct on hockey reference, sweet Christ, what are we going to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wensink Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) Best reality to me is Mason Marchment. With not getting Slaf, I really want to see a big body (yet talented) to get Hughes space. Plus Jack should make a player like this better. For me, I want him more than Johhny. Edited July 11, 2022 by John Wensink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, MB3 said: You want a 27 year old that has 20 career NHL goals more than you want a 28 year old with 210 career NHL goals on Jack's wing? why tho lol He makes some sense though. You do get a big gritty winger to provide space for guys like Hughes. I mean Gad would be good too. I don't really see either because most of the time Fitz can't find his way out of a wet paper bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, MB3 said: You want a 27 year old that has 20 career NHL goals more than you want a 28 year old with 210 career NHL goals on Jack's wing? why tho lol If only the truth came out on what some people around here are smoking some times … i dont understand some of this logic. Same sh!t with people saying they dont want JG because he’s going to take the team too far into the next step, and are worried about his contract 5 years down the road, but then kick and scream when theres no talent to be competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, 2ELIAS6 said: If only the truth came out on what some people around here are smoking some times … i dont understand some of this logic. Same sh!t with people saying they dont want JG because he’s going to take the team too far into the next step, and are worried about his contract 5 years down the road, but then kick and scream when theres no talent to be competitive Dude didn't say he didn't want Johnny Gad. He just said he wanted Marchment more and felt he filled a more needed role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 This is what we are left with when Failure Fitz panics again when plan A (drafting Slaf) doesn't go to plan. He can't get rid of the 2OA in 3 minutes while on the clock, DeBrincat was already traded for peanuts, guys like Forsberg are re-signing and now we have to sit and pray someone like Gaudreau is willing to sign here. Nichuskin didn't exactly has a rosy relationship with Ruff, so you can pretty much count him out. Giroux's best days are behind him, Burakovsky doesn't move the needle much and largely the same with Palat. I won't even bother with the RFA list as from his behavior over the past 2-3 seasons he likely doesn't have the guts to make a trade for them (or in other words be willing to give up the assets for them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, MB3 said: which is a ridiculous thing to say. That's your opinion, but I think it's kind of ridiculous that you throw your opinion around like its gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: Dude didn't say he didn't want Johnny Gad. He just said he wanted Marchment more and felt he filled a more needed role Im reading a lot of people around here not wanting him for the reasons that i listed. It’s ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: This is what we are left with when Failure Fitz panics again when plan A (drafting Slaf) doesn't go to plan. He can't get rid of the 2OA in 3 minutes while on the clock, DeBrincat was already traded for peanuts, guys like Forsberg are re-signing and now we have to sit and pray someone like Gaudreau is willing to sign here. Nichuskin didn't exactly has a rosy relationship with Ruff, so you can pretty much count him out. Giroux's best days are behind him, Burakovsky doesn't move the needle much and largely the same with Palat. I won't even bother with the RFA list as from his behavior over the past 2-3 seasons he likely doesn't have the guts to make a trade for them (or in other words be willing to give up the assets for them). I honestly don't see why Gad would want to come here. He knows he's probably going to be at his peak soon. Why would he want to be on a team where those years will be wasted on a team that has no plans. If Philly doesn't happen I could see him trying the Rags if they can make space for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, CarpathianForest said: I honestly don't see why Gad would want to come here. He knows he's probably going to be at his peak soon. Why would he want to be on a team where those years will be wasted on a team that has no plans. If Philly doesn't happen I could see him trying the Rags if they can make space for him. Im pretty sure the rags would have to move a nice piece in order to take on the 10M he’s likely going to get. Also, i mentioned somewhere else that it seems like P.Kane has an interest in wanting to get traded there. Again, not that its going to happen or is even likely, but its out in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, MB3 said: it’s not an opinion that the career superstar with more career goals than our top-6 added together is a better fit for the devils than a 27-year old journeyman who has literally one season of producing at a “sorta better than pavel zacha” pace in his career. jesus christ It would be nice if you could for once make an argument without frosting your sh!tty attitude on top. You should stop berating people because they don't think like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, MB3 said: the devils can afford to pay him what he wants. his entire family lives in NJ. playing alongside a US-born future superstar center is alluring. making “fvck you” money in your hometown is alluring. the rangers?!? they can’t even afford to re-sign their own guys lmao. How many times have we said that about the Rangers over the years and they figure it out. Hamilton is the exception to the rule, but I don't know why any player wants to go from annually making the post season to a basement dweller with one playoff in 10 years especially when he's at the top of his game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wensink Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, MB3 said: You want a 27 year old that has 20 career NHL goals more than you want a 28 year old with 210 career NHL goals on Jack's wing? why tho lol Wait till they try to get out of any corner or off the boards. I can see all of you getting pissed when they can't keep possession on either end. Going to the front of the net could be a big problem too. Their transition goals will be things of beauty though! My thought come from the fact Johnny played with 6-1 and 6-2, 200 pound line mates. We are average to small upfront. Plus, they are both very similar and I think a waste on the same line. Much like Bratt with Jack IMO. I'm not gonna be mad of us land Johnny (excited and hopeful in fact) but to think he is a slam dunk like Tkachuk would be is disingenuous. To me a 29 year old midget (I'm 5-7 too) with inconsistent point years is a bigger gamble than many think. You may hate Fitz, but he clearly insinuates the timeline with core is a year or two from true contention and by then a 30+ year old small guy worries me. Will cheer like hell if he comes though and hope I am worrying about nothing! Cap is not a concern at all for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, CarpathianForest said: How many times have we said that about the Rangers over the years and they figure it out. Hamilton is the exception to the rule, but I don't know why any player wants to go from annually making the post season to a basement dweller with one playoff in 10 years especially when he's at the top of his game I dont see NJ being that far off if they can add a couple more pieces. Especially if they can acquire one like JG. The goaltending last year we all know was a major issue, i think they will be straightened out enough now to not be a major ordeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, MB3 said: this is an internet forum. if saying something like “fvcking nutty” is going to make you clutch your pearls, I’m not sure what to tell you. That’s not berating anyone, it’s seeing something you disagree with and debating that point — something Wensink seems intent on doing even despite your white knighting. All I'm saying is you can make your argument without name calling or calling their argument stupid or whatever words you use. It would actually help you sound more intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Cant we all just get along… 😗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: I honestly don't see why Gad would want to come here. He knows he's probably going to be at his peak soon. Why would he want to be on a team where those years will be wasted on a team that has no plans. If Philly doesn't happen I could see him trying the Rags if they can make space for him. Depends on how badly he wants to play closer to where he grew up. Some players really put a premium on that (see Parise, Zach). Philly would likely be his #1 choice if they had enough cap space to sign him. However, we all know how teams are able to get around pesky little details like that pretty efficiently in recent years so who knows what could happen in the next 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said: Cant we all just get along… 😗 Welcome to NJDevs, I hope you are enjoying your first day here lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, mfitz804 said: Welcome to NJDevs, I hope you are enjoying your first day here lol. Lol 9 years and 5K posts later, i know the deal! Sometimes this place just seems like an overwhelmingly big bitch fest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wensink Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, MB3 said: "Inconsistent point years".... He's literally a point per game player over 600 career games. His "bad" years he still played at a ~68 point pace. His past two seasons he's playing at a 1.19 P/G pace, which puts him top-5 in the NHL. Yes, he's done that with big line mates. I also believe he could put up points (big points) with Jack. I just worry about physical domination from other teams. Just saying he's not a panacea for all the problems this team has. He's also (IMO) not the perfect winger for Jack even though he may the best available by far right now. I'm willing to be a little more patient, but I get the frustration. I am all aboard that train too from the owners to the food vendors LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, 2ELIAS6 said: an overwhelmingly big bitch fest! This should probably be the subtitle of this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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