Puckbuster Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, Devil Dan 56 said: And inherited Crosby and Malkin. I’ve never thought much of Shero. After their cup, his teams were upset 5 years straight in the playoffs. Exactly. I just think if you take Lou’s tenure as a whole, just like any team after a long run, he was successful. All teams need a rebuild free a long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, mfitz804 said: I guess I just don’t get the logic of losing one of your two best players and then saying “fvck it, might as well lose both”. I don’t either, but there’s been talk that Tkachuk might want out of Gaudreau left 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: He’s a d!ck, obviously didn’t want to come here. Probably has a huge ego from being called “Johnny Hockey” for so many years. Go fvck yourself, a grown man shouldn’t call himself “Johnny” anyway. Dougie Hamilton says hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: One of the blue check guys speculated the Devils were interested but Calgary wasn’t before the draft. Things may be different now. I’d do Holtz, any other prospect they want not named Luke Hughes, top-3 protected 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, unprotected 2024 1st Edited July 14, 2022 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: I guess I just don’t get the logic of losing one of your two best players and then saying “fvck it, might as well lose both”. The thing is, they didn't win with Johnny Gaudreau having his absolute best season. Losing him for nothing certainly won't make the team better. So a retool / rebuild is the smartest thing to do if your goal is to win a cup. And Tkachuk is a RFA and i believe said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild / retool. So he won't sign long term. So they may be forced to trade him and really commit to a rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Jerrydevil said: Dougie Hamilton says hi. Don’t get me started on that, it’s probably worse lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, Puckbuster said: Exactly. I just think if you take Lou’s tenure as a whole, just like any team after a long run, he was successful. All teams need a rebuild free a long run. I agree, as a whole absolutely. I get Lou’s strategy and all. Without him we are in Nashville in the 90’s. But it just got really old and unmanageable towards the end. He took the 2012 run to heart and tried to squeeze another run out of Patty and Marty and it just wasn’t going to work. All good things come to an end. I’d love nothing more than to have even a third of that success under Fitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: I don’t either, but there’s been talk that Tkachuk might want out of Gaudreau left Just now, SterioDesign said: The thing is, they didn't win with Johnny Gaudreau having his absolute best season. Losing him for nothing certainly won't make the team better. So a retool / rebuild is the smartest thing to do if your goal is to win a cup. And Tkachuk is a RFA and i believe said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild / retool. So he won't sign long term. So they may be forced to trade him and really commit to a rebuild Even if true, they aren’t going to give him away, I assume the cost would be high. And I think I would still do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, mfitz804 said: Even if true, they aren’t going to give him away, I assume the cost would be high. And I think I would still do it. As Maddog said, you’re probably looking at a few top prospects/ 1st rounders. Would be steep for sure and I’d only want it with a signed extension 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: Even if true, they aren’t going to give him away, I assume the cost would be high. And I think I would still do it. Either way he is an RFA so CGY has time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, Devil Dan 56 said: As Maddog said, you’re probably looking at a few top prospects/ 1st rounders. Would be steep for sure and I’d only want it with a signed extension It's a gamble especially since Tkachuk said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild or retool. Not sure how excited he would be about signing and extension with a team that's just treading water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: As Maddog said, you’re probably looking at a few top prospects/ 1st rounders. Would be steep for sure and I’d only want it with a signed extension A signed 8-year extension is a prerequisite. No extension, not a chance am I trading top prospects and multiple first rounders. Edited July 14, 2022 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 @SterioDesigni was wrong, my apologies. Maybe it was a verbal until they moved Patches but still, you were right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: As Maddog said, you’re probably looking at a few top prospects/ 1st rounders. Would be steep for sure and I’d only want it with a signed extension Oh yes extension has to be part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: Not sure how excited he would be about signing and extension with a team that's just treading water He puts us just about over the damn top. If he’s too stupid to realize that, I don’t want him. He should absolutely know this and have no issue signing. Fitz is also his cousin. Edited July 14, 2022 by MadDog2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, MadDog2020 said: He puts us just about over the damn top. If he’s too stupid to realize that, I don’t want him. Well he is a Tkachuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: It's a gamble especially since Tkachuk said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild or retool. Not sure how excited he would be about signing and extension with a team that's just treading water Lol good point, we aren’t exactly a playoff contender, having sh!t the bed so incredibly hard last season. Edited July 14, 2022 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Puckbuster said: Exactly. I just think if you take Lou’s tenure as a whole, just like any team after a long run, he was successful. All teams need a rebuild free a long run. If you take Lou's tenure as a whole you also need to acknowledge all the talent in its prime that he simply let walk for nothing. That's just not a good way to run a business or anything. His assets management is absolutely horrible and it got a lot worst with the cap. And his unwillingness to adjust never helped that. You also have to acknowledge the bad drafting and not doing anything about it letting David Conte being terrible at his jobs for over 10 years and doing nothing. Some fans wanted Shero or Fitz crucified for not firing a bad coach or assistant coach after a bad year but were fine with Lou not firing Conte who's been bad for over a decade? It's absolutely possible to acknowledge the good things he did and not put your head in the sand completely about his downfalls too. There's literally no perfect GM in NHL history. And many very good GMs never won a cup. Just like some of the best players never won a cup. Edited July 14, 2022 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, SterioDesign said: If you take Lou's tenure as a whole you also need to acknowledge all the talent in its prime that he simply let walk for nothing. That's just not a good way to run a business or anything. His assets management is absolutely horrible and it got a lot worst with the cap. And his unwillingness to adjust never helped that. You also have to acknowledge the bad drafting and not doing anything about it letting David Conte being terrible at his jobs for over 10 years and doing nothing. It's absolutely possible to acknowledge the good things he did and not put your head in the sand completely about his downfalls too. There's literally no perfect GM in NHL history. And many very good GMs never won a cup. Just like some of the best players never won a cup. I thought you were a fan of his drafting, first I’m hearing about this. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, jagknife said: @SterioDesigni was wrong, my apologies. Maybe it was a verbal until they moved Patches but still, you were right I don,t know what i was right about. But cool 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Here's the list of remaining UFAs. It's not updated so it still lists all UFAs pre 7/13. There is like nothing left https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/ufa/?ref=trending-pages Edited July 14, 2022 by CarpathianForest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 The kid just couldn't pass up the opportunity to go play for an org that has won one playoff round in 21 years for millions less, rather than playing in his home state. It's a slap in the face, end of the world, of course not. Not a good look though. Yeah we disagree on the 1.5 hour plane ride being about the same as a 1.5 hour drive. Besides that I would assume he wouldn't be moving into the house he grew up in but would of found one "closer". I think we're just not as attractive a destination as hope we are even after signing Hamilton and with Hughes and a small handful of others. I think this is a sign we probably haven't turned that corner, yet. Although we didn't walk away entirely empty handed today. Prove me wrong Fitz by not fishing in the bargain basement bins of players not good enough to move the needle the rest of this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I don,t know what i was right about. But cool You said he hadn’t signed yet either this morning or yesterday, I challenged. I was wrong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Details coming out now: If we outbid Columbus and he still went with them - whatever, fvck him. IF we got outbid by Columbus, so help me fvcking God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Anyone think that maybe Johnny really likes hearing loud bangs and loves the cannon? I mean it’s preferable over a whiney try-too-hard PA guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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