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10 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

Again, I hope I'm wrong but there's a good chance that JG goes back to his career norm of 70+ point seasons for the first 3 and then starts dropping from there.     

I don’t understand where the narrative comes from that he is a 70+ point player. He’s PPG for his career, and he’s had 80+ points 3 out of 8 years, and played on an 80+ pace during the Covid shortened season. 

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Just now, Devil Dan 56 said:


I’m guessing Toronto gave Campbell’s agent permission to go looking for a contract? That’s absolutely a need for Edmonton. I’m assuming Kuemper goes to Washington. 

Like so many other "rules" in this league, apparently folks are just completely ignoring all the tampering that's going on.

Friedman has been reporting a 5x5 deal for Campbell to the Oilers for like.. a solid week+.  

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it’s only illegal if it benefits a non-O6 team. Hossa contract, blatant cap circumvention? No problem. Kovalchuk contract in the same mold? CONTRACT DECLINED, DRAFT PICK REVOKED, MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE LEAGUE

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

it’s only illegal if it benefits a non-O6 team. Hossa contract, blatant cap circumvention? No problem. Kovalchuk contract in the same mold? CONTRACT DECLINED, DRAFT PICK REVOKED, MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE LEAGUE

Or a team that is good for business

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

it’s only illegal if it benefits a non-O6 team. Hossa contract, blatant cap circumvention? No problem. Kovalchuk contract in the same mold? CONTRACT DECLINED, DRAFT PICK REVOKED, MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE LEAGUE

I’ll never forget the Chicago “lending” Huet to a European team when they were cap strapped. 

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56 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

Count me as one who is really weary about giving a 29 year old (at start of season), 5'-7" winger 10+ million, and yes, considering the age of guys like Nico, both Hughes and Bratt, I'm concerned about what this contract will look like in 5 years.   I guess the positive side of this is that we're in about the 4th year of a flat cap and with inflation and new TV contracts, the cap should go up significantly at some point soon, but that's just my assumption.    

He's had one 100+ point season in his entire career.   If he signs, I hope I'm wrong but no way we're getting 3.    

You can add me as someone who is slightly nervous about it. But given how teams seem able to work their way out of messy situations cap wise on a regular basis it feels less of a worry than it did a few years ago. 

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12 minutes ago, MB3 said:

it’s only illegal if it benefits a non-O6 team. Hossa contract, blatant cap circumvention? No problem. Kovalchuk contract in the same mold? CONTRACT DECLINED, DRAFT PICK REVOKED, MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE LEAGUE

It's true, but let's be honest Lou was absolutely taking the piss with the structure of that contract. He kind of forced the league's hand. Typical Lou , always an innovator. 

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2 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

You can add me as someone who is slightly nervous about it. But given how teams seem able to work their way out of messy situations cap wise on a regular basis it feels less of a worry than it did a few years ago. 

I’m definitely a little worried about it too, but in 5 years we have no idea what the situation might be here. Having too much talent to pay will be a nice problem at least

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6 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

It's true, but let's be honest Lou was absolutely taking the piss with the structure of that contract. He kind of forced the league's hand. Typical Lou , always an innovator. 

either you’re allowed to frontload a contract or you aren’t. hossa’s was similarly structured which established precedent. 

the fact that the league not only disallowed the contract but FINED THE DEVILS A DRAFT PICK is so far beyond reasonable it makes my head spin.

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Oh and if the Devils are indeed entering the "JG Timeline"...

Bye bye Seves.  They won't be re-signing him for the $6 million (maybe more) or so AAV he'll get as a UFA...and given the kids currently in system, they shouldn't.

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12 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

You can add me as someone who is slightly nervous about it. But given how teams seem able to work their way out of messy situations cap wise on a regular basis it feels less of a worry than it did a few years ago. 

Same here.  I'm really hoping it isn't $10m+x7.  I could be totally wrong because I admittedly have not watched much of his game, only looked at numbers, but it just feels like that contract is going to get sour in like 3 or 4 seasons.

But definitely excited to see him play with Jack or Nico if it happens.  Fitz is going to need to find some size somewhere.  Hopefully Wood sticks around. (get it?)

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1 minute ago, Crisis said:

Same here.  I'm really hoping it isn't $10m+x7.  I could be totally wrong because I admittedly have not watched much of his game, only looked at numbers, but it just feels like that contract is going to get sour in like 3 or 4 seasons.

But definitely excited to see him play with Jack or Nico if it happens.  Fitz is going to need to find some size somewhere.  Hopefully Wood sticks around. (get it?)

That's why the next 4-5 years become the "Right Now" window.  Re:  the bolded, the same can be said of Hamilton's deal.  The plus in both cases is that neither guy cost the Devils anything in player assets.

But yeah, these deals for guys in their late 20s are ALWAYS a huge risk.    

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3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

That's why the next 4-5 years become the "Right Now" window.  Re:  the bolded, the same can be said of Hamilton's deal.  The plus in both cases is that neither guy cost the Devils anything in player assets.

But yeah, these deals for guys in their late 20s are ALWAYS a huge risk.    

I feel like Hamilton has the physical tools and brain to continue to be effective in his position when he gets older and ultimately slows down.  But Johnny is so little.  Hopefully he can find whatever magic Marty St Louis had.

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13 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Oh and if the Devils are indeed entering the "JG Timeline"...

Bye bye Seves.  They won't be re-signing him for the $6 million (maybe more) or so AAV he'll get as a UFA...and given the kids currently in system, they shouldn't.

severson doesn’t fit the future of the team anyway. nemec slides into his role in a vastly superior capacity in a year or so. if the devils aren’t in the playoff hunt you’d think they can get a first round pick for him at the deadline this year.

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Just now, MB3 said:

severson doesn’t fit the future of the team anyway. nemec slides into his role in a vastly superior capacity in a year or so. if the devils aren’t in the playoff hunt you’d think they can get a first round pick for him at the deadline this year.

He's more or less become obsolete, really.  Hamilton/Nemec/L Hughes has more or less ensured that.  Now it's a question of De-nASS-ifying Smith.  Curious to see if Graves is re-signed  

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16 minutes ago, MB3 said:

either you’re allowed to frontload a contract or you aren’t. hossa’s was similarly structured which established precedent. 

the fact that the league not only disallowed the contract but FINED THE DEVILS A DRAFT PICK is so far beyond reasonable it makes my head spin.

That’s what always bothered me. It was technically within the rules. Lou pointed out how silly these contracts were getting and the league rejected the contract and then had the balls to penalize the Devils for a contract that never even officially existed

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2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

That’s what always bothered me. It was technically within the rules. Lou pointed out how silly these contracts were getting and the league rejected the contract and then had the balls to penalize the Devils for a contract that never even officially existed

It would be like the Autobahn retroactively sending one person in particular a speeding ticket after years of everyone legally driving a zillion miles an hour. 

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Just now, MB3 said:

It would be like the Autobahn retroactively sending one person in particular a speeding ticket after years of everyone legally driving a zillion miles an hour. 

Because that driver wasn’t speeding within the “spirit of the speed cap”

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4 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

He's more or less become obsolete, really.  Hamilton/Nemec/L Hughes has more or less ensured that.  Now it's a question of De-nASS-ifying Smith.  Curious to see if Graves is re-signed  

I think Graves is a good player, but I wasn’t so impressed with him that I think we can’t let him go. Even if Nemec doesn’t make the team this year, I feel like you have both he and Luke on next year’s team, plus there’s other young guys that could make the leap, and you have to wonder if there’s a place for him anymore. 

1 minute ago, Crisis said:

Damn how good do those look…

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