Nicomo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Can you just stop? We're having a conversation. Obviously i'm not into gambling and don't understand many things and ive been asking many questions cause i just don't see how it's really relevant and im trying to understand. it's a conversation on a slow day with no hockey. But of course you have to put this through your godamn filter and see this as me doing something negative as usual. Fun conversation. These dudes tried to casually explain the gambling aspect, and you’re on here picking it apart like you’re writing your dissertation. Edited December 28, 2022 by Nicomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Nicomo said: Fun conversation. These dudes tried to casually explain to the gambling aspect, and you’re on here picking it apart like you’re writing your dissertation. Dude this is how conversations goes. I've been asking questions from the moment i engaged on that topic cause i just don't understand how its actually affecting gambling. I learned quite a bit about gambling but nobody has yet to explain how it's actually affecting anything since bets are made on game day and in 99% of the time we know on that day who's playing and who's not. And if we don't, its cause the player and the team don't even know themselves and its a game time decision. So i still don't see how not knowing if Bastian is out for 3 weeks or 5 days can possibly affect anyone's gamblings. We know he's not playing, so make your bets according to that up until the day he's back in the lineup. Sounds pretty damn basic to me Man with the insanely high cost of living these days it's amazing that im living rent free in your head. You never fail to exaggerate anything i say and put your own "negative twist" on it cause that's simply what you do. Do i need to bring up the Ghotbusters 2 thing again?!? I wouldn't cause its been covered, but CLEARLY you're not getting how bad and biased you are towards me We were just having a basic conversation about hockey and gambling on a day with no game and not much else to talk bout, you just had to see this as a negative when it wasn't and come in like a wrecking ball and do your fvcking thing, drag this down and here we are now. That's on you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SterioDesign Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: There is what is called a parlay where you can bet several games on one card. If you have five and Hughes doesn’t play and you do a 4-team parlay instead of five, that’s less of your money the house is likely to gain. On a parlay do you have to pick games all on the same day or it can be through a week or wtv? I assume through a day? (could be wrong, again, im absolutely clueless) So i guess i'll explain my thought process here based on a real life example. Say i want to do a 5 games parlay... tomorrow... so i'm picking 5 games and picking boston vs devils as one of the parlay(?). And i'm sort of unsure if palat is playing or not at this moment. So im not sure if i'm picking NJ or Boston. But say that in my mind... Palat playing means Devils winning. And if he's not.. then im picking Boston for that game. Simple enough. So tomorrow, we should know after the morning skate if Palat is playing or not. Or if he's a game time decision or not. I also already know that Marino, Bastian and Graves are not playing since they are week-to-week. So i truly have all the infos i could require as a gambler (right?) and for the house... well if people are not betting because marino and graves are NOT playing... it's not on the team for not giving precise updates or wtv... we know they are injured and won't play. So once i have that info... i go and put in my bets... and that's it. I really don't see the problem im sorry. So this is how i imagine "gambling", clearly if im missing something it should be obvious and then you can just explain what im missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansinz88 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: On a parlay do you have to pick games all on the same day or it can be through a week or wtv? I assume through a day? (could be wrong, again, im absolutely clueless) So i guess i'll explain my thought process here based on a real life example. Say i want to do a 5 games parlay... tomorrow... so i'm picking 5 games and picking boston vs devils as one of the parlay(?). And i'm sort of unsure if palat is playing or not at this moment. So im not sure if i'm picking NJ or Boston. But say that in my mind... Palat playing means Devils winning. And if he's not.. then im picking Boston for that game. Simple enough. So tomorrow, we should know after the morning skate if Palat is playing or not. Or if he's a game time decision or not. I also already know that Marino, Bastian and Graves are not playing since they are week-to-week. So i truly have all the infos i could require as a gambler (right?) and for the house... well if people are not betting because marino and graves are NOT playing... it's not on the team for not giving precise updates or wtv... we know they are injured and won't play. So once i have that info... i go and put in my bets... and that's it. I really don't see the problem im sorry. So this is how i imagine "gambling", clearly if im missing something it should be obvious and then you can just explain what im missing That was a lot to read. are you asking if you can change the bet after you put it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansinz88 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 As far as the parlay I never did one nor did I ever try over several days. I believe the betting houses/apps would either allow or disallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Can you just stop? We're having a conversation. Obviously i'm not into gambling and don't understand many things and ive been asking many questions cause i just don't see how it's really relevant and im trying to understand. it's a conversation on a slow day with no hockey. But of course you have to put this through your godamn filter and see this as me doing something negative as usual. And as of now, nobody yet explained to me how a week-to-week injury is impacting betting negatively considering you'd still know on the day you're putting the bet if a player is playing or not whengamblers can just bet on a different team or different game / keep the same amounts of bet for the house or wtv. It hasn't been explained or i didn't understand it but this is not "arguing". If you don't like it just don't read it for the love of god I’ve explained it multiple times, you just don’t seem to be accepting that explanation. If a gambler said “I am betting $100 no matter what I bet on” and stuck to that, sure, there is no difference in the number or amount of bets placed. If instead, they just decide not to place a bet on that game (my example was getting only 4 games THAT DAY instead of 5), then the house (which I assume you understand by now) loses by not having the opportunity to take your money. You keep saying it hasn’t been explained to you, but it has. Whether you agree or not is a separate issue. Edited December 28, 2022 by mfitz804 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Add on top that WHEN a guy is coming back isn’t the only consideration. If a goalie is coming back from a lower body injury, wouldn’t knowing whether it was a cracked toenail or a hip flexor be useful information in deciding whether or not to bet on that guy’s team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 7 hours ago, SterioDesign said: On a parlay do you have to pick games all on the same day or it can be through a week or wtv? I assume through a day? (could be wrong, again, im absolutely clueless) So i guess i'll explain my thought process here based on a real life example. Say i want to do a 5 games parlay... tomorrow... so i'm picking 5 games and picking boston vs devils as one of the parlay(?). And i'm sort of unsure if palat is playing or not at this moment. So im not sure if i'm picking NJ or Boston. But say that in my mind... Palat playing means Devils winning. And if he's not.. then im picking Boston for that game. Simple enough. So tomorrow, we should know after the morning skate if Palat is playing or not. Or if he's a game time decision or not. I also already know that Marino, Bastian and Graves are not playing since they are week-to-week. So i truly have all the infos i could require as a gambler (right?) and for the house... well if people are not betting because marino and graves are NOT playing... it's not on the team for not giving precise updates or wtv... we know they are injured and won't play. So once i have that info... i go and put in my bets... and that's it. I really don't see the problem im sorry. So this is how i imagine "gambling", clearly if im missing something it should be obvious and then you can just explain what im missing Imagine instead that based on the information, you decide to skip the Devils game altogether and just do a 4 game parlay for less money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Well fvck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Well fvck. Something tells me Tyler Wotherspoon isn’t the defensive answer to losing Graves and Marino. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Imagine instead that based on the information, you decide to skip the Devils game altogether and just do a 4 game parlay for less money. Exactly. 35 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Great 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Edited December 28, 2022 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: I hope Tyce has some of what his brother is eating. Edited December 28, 2022 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Satans Hockey said: Sh!t. Not like the Devils are the only team to deal with injuries, but sucks all the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 No surprise that Vitek gets the start tonight... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: No surprise that Vitek gets the start tonight... Jeez, those forward lines look like we're in for watching another 1 goal game where Jack Hughes or Jesper Bratt gets the only marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share Posted December 28, 2022 10 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Say i want to do a 5 games parlay... tomorrow... so i'm picking 5 games and picking boston vs devils as one of the parlay(?). And i'm sort of unsure if palat is playing or not at this moment. So im not sure if i'm picking NJ or Boston. But say that in my mind... Palat playing means Devils winning. And if he's not.. then im picking Boston for that game. Simple enough. It's not as black and white as this. Maybe you think NJ wins with Palat, but that doesn't necessarily mean you think they will lose without him. Like mfitz said, maybe you skip that game because without Palat, you are less certain of the result. And if you don't bet the game, that's a loss for the house. You also seem to be wrapped up in this "day of" thing. There are many other bets someone can place that would rely on knowing if a top player or goalie are out days, weeks, or months. And whether you think they can recover completely or quickly from a specific type of injury. You can bet on futures like division/conference winners, if a team makes or misses the playoffs, individual awards like Vezina or Conn Smythe. The context of the injury plays a big role in all the other aspects besides is player x in or out of the lineup this very day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lateralous said: Jeez, those forward lines look like we're in for watching another 1 goal game where Jack Hughes or Jesper Bratt gets the only marker. It would have been nice for them to wait to start losing until the injuries hit. Now the schedule is harder and the lineup looks worse, but they've already given up all the ground from that great November with their crappy Dec record. I'm trying to not be negative but they've not really looked like the same team from late October through November for the last month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: Something tells me Tyler Wotherspoon isn’t the defensive answer to losing Graves and Marino. every time i hear his name i think of my favorite joke. obviously has to be spoken. when you’re in a crowded room look at your phone and yell “OH MY GOD!” when everyone looks say “that actress Reece was stabbed! Reece…. uhhh…. Reece” and when someone inevitably interjects “WITHERSPOON????” you say “no!!! with a knife!!!!!” and wait for the long loud groan and your uncle to whisper “wow i hate that kid so much” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MB3 said: every time i hear his name i think of my favorite joke. obviously has to be spoken. when you’re in a crowded room look at your phone and yell “OH MY GOD!” when everyone looks say “that actress Reece was stabbed! Reece…. uhhh…. Reece” and when someone inevitably interjects “WITHERSPOON????” you say “no!!! with a knife!!!!!” and wait for the long loud groan and your uncle to whisper “wow i hate that kid so much” Yup, love that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Satans Hockey said: Hopefully Wotherspoon won’t see the light of day and is up as cover. It’s Severson playing top 4 minutes that truly scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, devlman said: Hopefully Wotherspoon won’t see the light of day and is up as cover. It’s Severson playing top 4 minutes that truly scares me. And just about everyone else. Ideally he's a sheltered bottom 2 guy who can bring a little offense and can fill in short-term if your main offensive D-man misses some games. Ask for more and you'll be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: And just about everyone else. Ideally he's a sheltered bottom 2 guy who can bring a little offense and can fill in short-term if your main offensive D-man misses some games. Ask for more and you'll be disappointed. I’ve never asked for anything, and I’m constantly disappointed lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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