GDT: Detroit @ Devils 7:00 PM 10/15- the home opener

[NJDevs4978]

17 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

We’re seriously overreacting over two games. 

Jack has zero points, back to putting in maximum effort with no results. We should send him to the AHL. 

It'd be nice to see Mr. Intangible have more actual impact with the rest of these losers in the locker room

[MadDog2020]

21 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

We’re seriously overreacting over two games. 

Jack has zero points, back to putting in maximum effort with no results. We should send him to the AHL. 

I think we’re all just frustrated 

[RizzMB30]

24 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

We’re seriously overreacting over two games. 

Jack has zero points, back to putting in maximum effort with no results. We should send him to the AHL. 

I think both of the first two games, our goaltending numbers are horrendous, but particularly unlucky. Comparing us to Detroit where Husso had a shut-out on Friday and then Nedeljovic comes in and stops 37 the next night.  Hit the video coaching room and we'll be back.

I'm not a fan of Ruff's line up decisions right now either after 2. It's time to shape up. 

Edited October 16, 2022 by RizzMB30

[jagknife]

1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

I think we’re all just frustrated 

100%

Ruff needs to go, the roster is fine, the players are fine, they'll rebound under guidance of an actual coach, not a dinosaur.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

1 minute ago, jagknife said:

100%

Ruff needs to go, the roster is fine, the players are fine, they'll rebound under guidance of an actual coach, not a dinosaur.

Yeah the roster is not really what my concern is.  I think there’s enough talent to be competitive most nights.  But this coach needs to go.  NOW.

[RizzMB30]

3 minutes ago, jagknife said:

100%

Ruff needs to go, the roster is fine, the players are fine, they'll rebound under guidance of an actual coach, not a dinosaur.

 

1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Yeah the roster is not really what my concern is.  I think there’s enough talent to be competitive most nights.  But this coach needs to go.  NOW.

I haven't seen you guys hate a coach this much since Hynes, or DeBoer, or JohnnyMac.....or Jacques......

[Fansinz88]

3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Yeah the roster is not really what my concern is.  I think there’s enough talent to be competitive most nights.  But this coach needs to go.  NOW.

Roster is mostly fine except a few but the coach and the goaltending is bad. Get rid of the goaltending coach when ruff goes as well and start building a new system. 

[Satans Hockey]

1 minute ago, RizzMB30 said:

 

I haven't seen you guys hate a coach this much since Hynes, or DeBoer, or JohnnyMac.....or Jacques......

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong and if you think I am I'd like video proof of it but as someone who was there for the vast majority of all those coaches bad tenures I never remember an entire arena chanting fire *coach* chants like last night like Ruff received. 

[MadDog2020]

5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong and if you think I am I'd like video proof of it but as someone who was there for the vast majority of all those coaches bad tenures I never remember an entire arena chanting fire *coach* chants like last night like Ruff received. 

I think there were Fire Hynes chants if I recall correctly.

[Satans Hockey]

14 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I think there were Fire Hynes chants if I recall correctly.

Yeah I totally forgot about that one so my bad on that one, couldn't find anything for Pete or Mac though...

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Satans Hockey

[jagknife]

24 minutes ago, RizzMB30 said:

 

I haven't seen you guys hate a coach this much since Hynes, or DeBoer, or JohnnyMac.....or Jacques......

All coaches have a shelf life. 

Just so happens Mac’s was expired the second he started

PDB had some greatness, Hynes wasn’t god awful.

Ruff’s, however, expired when he was fired in Dallas, at best.

[jagknife]

I’m also seeing on Reddit that a number of concession stands were a disaster (no rolls for sausages, minimal condiments, etc)

[Devil Dan 56]

1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

The losing stink of this team even rubs off on career winners like Palat. 

To be fair to Palat, he spent all preseason working with Hughes and mostly Holtz although Holtz got switched out from time to time and now the season starts and Ruff is just picking lines out of a hat. 

Why in the world would you mess with players who are showing chemistry? Ruff would have broken up the A-Line halfway through the 99-00 season. 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Devil Dan 56

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

16 minutes ago, jagknife said:

All coaches have a shelf life. 

Just so happens Mac’s was expired the second he started

PDB had some greatness, Hynes wasn’t god awful.

Ruff’s, however, expired when he was fired in Dallas, at best.

Yeah this pretty much sums it up.  Not sure why he lumped them all together…Mac’s situation was obviously MUCH different.  And Jacques is pretty much royalty here…I don’t remember ever wanting him canned.

[Satans Hockey]

26 minutes ago, jagknife said:

I’m also seeing on Reddit that a number of concession stands were a disaster (no rolls for sausages, minimal condiments, etc)

I don't eat in the arena but the lines looked long for everything. Very bizarre that they wouldn't be prepared though to have enough food. I saw somewhere that apparently this is the last year with the current concession stand company.

I still refuse to eat there until there they adopt the fan friendly concession stand prices that Atlanta has. 

[Aitchmack]

1 hour ago, Fansinz88 said:

Roster is mostly fine except a few but the coach and the goaltending is bad. Get rid of the goaltending coach when ruff goes as well and start building a new system. 

Why Rogalski still has a job is beyond me. He should've gone with the other two clowns in the summer.

[Devil Dan 56]

23 minutes ago, MB3 said:

If Ruff were a new coach and this were a new system, calling for him to be fired would be premature. 

This is just a continuation of last year, though. Sh!t offensive system. Sh!t defensive system (times ten.) League worst goaltending, and that’s being nice.

It’s a failure of the GM that goaltending wasn’t addressed in an appreciable manner. VV might be ok, but going into the season with Blackwood as your 1A is a failure to your team and a failure to the fans who pay money to watch your team. 

Fire Fitz. Fire Lindy. 

I don’t blame Fitz for giving Blackwood a chance healthy in a contract year. There wasn’t much else out there. Husso signed with Detroit as an RFA. Campbell, Fluery, and Kuemper wanted to go to contenders. We weren’t taking Bobrovsky’s contract and Florida wasn’t trading Knight.

Blackwoods problem is between his ears. That’s a mental position and Blackwood crumbles the second he gets challenged. They shoulda fired Rogalski and brought in a sports psychologist or something. I can’t see Blackwood still being here come trade deadline. They already signed VV to an extension and Daws will probably be ready to be an NHL backup by then. Then we just see how Brennan or Schmid or Malek look, or if anything interesting shows up in free agency 

I still think Fitz should talk to Anaheim about Dostal. Gibson is there for the long run. Or maybe Dustin Wolf who had a great year in Stockton last year for the Flames. 

[capo]

I like the fact that a lot of you are focused on the fact that this isn't just a two game thing and it's early. This is a crap hole many years in the making. The Devils need a full hose cleaning starting with Fitz and then Ruff.  Fitz has tried to bring in players via FA but he has not done well with player management. The Bratt situation being most prevalent.

Edited October 16, 2022 by capo

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Blackwood was retained with the hope that if fully healthy, he can return to what he did over his first two seasons and 70 GP, where he looked promising.  It’s early of course but based on what I saw in preseason and the opener, not sure if that guy is ever coming back.

Not worried about VV yet.  

[Devil Dan 56]

6 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Husso signed with detroit because he was acquired by detroit. 

i know “acquiring young exciting talent” is a foreign concept to devils fans but there really isn’t any reason why fitz couldn’t have been in on that. or flex your cap muscle with an Oettinger offer sheet. 

Instead we got another backup goalie and rolled out Blackwood as our day 1 starter. League worst NHL goaltending for one season stinks. If this becomes a trend, it has to be on the GM.

Vanecek is younger than Husso and has more career games including 1 more game than Husso last season. It’s possible Fitz missed on Husso and then went for Vanecek as his second option. 

[SterioDesign]

3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

We’re seriously overreacting over two games. 

Jack has zero points, back to putting in maximum effort with no results. We should send him to the AHL. 

No kidding. It's kind of ridiculous lol

Colombus just signed one of the biggest UFA ever and lost 3 straight (they miss Laine though obv). It can take time for teams with new players, new coaching staff, etc etc to gel, especially young teams. 

In my opinion we're still within the... we gotta work through it phase. If we were like... a stacked team that SHOULD win and went on a terrible 10 games losing streak to start a season. Then start asking questions. But it's insanely early right now to freak out this fvcking much.

Also we didn't play as bad as the final score showed. Philly and Detroit got good goaltending, for realz. And we didn't get that. Jack looked really good too. it just didn't go in yet

Edited October 16, 2022 by SterioDesign

[mfitz804]

8 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Blackwood was retained with the hope that if fully healthy, he can return to what he did over his first two seasons and 70 GP, where he looked promising.  It’s early of course but based on what I saw in preseason and the opener, not sure if that guy is ever coming back.

Not worried about VV yet.  

He had one game in the preseason where he didn’t look good, the rest of them I thought he played pretty well. 

I’m not prepared to judge his entire season based on a single game. Nor Vanecek’s. 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

He had one game in the preseason where he didn’t look good, the rest of them I thought he played pretty well. 

I’m not prepared to judge his entire season based on a single game. Nor Vanecek’s. 

VV has a clean slate here.  I’m definitely not giving up on him after one game.

Not a big believer in Blackwood, but obviously he’s going to get several chances.  We’ll see what he does with them.  

[bobilly45]

7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

He had one game in the preseason where he didn’t look good, the rest of them I thought he played pretty well. 

I’m not prepared to judge his entire season based on a single game. Nor Vanecek’s. 

Eh, I'd give vanecek a bit more slack as the new guy here.   Blackwood gets 0, he sucked last year, sucked in game 1.  It's over, close the blinds on him.  He was always cory 2.0, esp once he got injured.  

 

Bernier was always the better goalie out of blackwood, daws, and the ahl guys.   Sucks that he's injured as I wouldve rolled van and Bernier.  

As mentioned before, we'll never win with blackwood, and definitely not with ruff

[NJDevs4978]

2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Yeah this pretty much sums it up.  Not sure why he lumped them all together…Mac’s situation was obviously MUCH different.  And Jacques is pretty much royalty here…I don’t remember ever wanting him canned.

There were definitely people who wanted him 'retired' after the Flyer series fiasco, I might have even been one of them...the team definitely looked like they quit in the second half with Captain Crankypants and the coach at odds

But yeah you can't compare normal coach kvetching to being dissatisfied with two of the worst seasons in franchise history.  So if Lindy's such a great coach you're telling me that this roster is 40-50 point-worthy.  Then people who say that should want Fitzy fired.

Edited October 16, 2022 by NJDevs4978