GDT: Devils @ Rags - 12 Dec - 700p start - NHL Network

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

Makes two of us. Wall got a fistful too. 

Fortunately I have a soft ottoman…I was punching that.

My poor kid had that “Oh sh!t Dad’s losing his sh!t” look on her face…she hasn’t had it much this year, for obvious reasons.  But she knew where it was coming from.  I can’t imagine how much worse it would’ve been with a regulation loss.

[devlman]

35 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Honest question. Why is there such a raging need to find ONE scapegoat every time we lose. It's a team sport.

 

Hmm I don’t know. Why don’t you join a sports psychology forum and see what answers you find. Let us know.

[MB3]

6 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Dude this has nothing to do with the Rangers, you do this constantly lol

The other day against Nashville you straight up said "THIS LOSS IS ON LINDY RUFF" for putting Sharangovich on the ice. And i could go on and on. See the pattern? See why i would ask such a question and that it's fair to ask?

 

I know a rational approach to an emotional reaction never actually work but this is all i have.

Hopefully attempting to somehow spin this on me made you feel better for a second though 😘

if saying

"i can’t properly express how horrid it is that the devils decided to use sharangovich over bratt/mercer in overtime... that’s a loss on lindy ruff, period."

is what you consider to be an an over-the-top emotional reaction seconds after an overtime loss, you need to do some soul-searching before trying to fix the emotional state of your internet friends. 

[SterioDesign]

i mean there's literally 18 guys on the ice during each games. Their goal is to score goals and help prevent shots. 15 of them failed to score tnight.

So I'm just wondering if it's really fair to blame the goalie 100% for not making one extra save in a game with that in mind. Also our top scorer failed to a score on a penalty shot and the team failed to scored on 3 powerplays. I'm not saying we have to blame them 100% on them either. But why is that not as much THE reason we lost than a goalie not making one extra save?

We dont have to agree but i dont think it's an unfair stance

[SterioDesign]

2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

if saying

"i can’t properly express how horrid it is that the devils decided to use sharangovich over bratt/mercer in overtime... that’s a loss on lindy ruff, period."

is what you consider to be an an over-the-top emotional reaction seconds after an overtime loss, you need to do some soul-searching before trying to fix the emotional state of your internet friends. 

My question was why do you always feel the need to put losses on ONE person, when it's a team sport. Very fair question. 

[mfitz804]

We looked like a steaming, sloppy bucket of diarrhea from the point where Hughes did whatever that was on the penalty shot, and it was all downhill from there. Fvck the Rangers. 

[MB3]

7 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

My question was why do you always feel the need to put losses on ONE person, when it's a team sport. Very fair question. 

when the fvck did you ask me that question lmao

also --

"so far today:

good: jack hughes, eric haula, dawson mercer

bad: everyone else

"WHAT THE fvck ARE YOU DOING": dougie

"where the fvck have you been?": nico

"i hate you, go away forever": Holtz, Boqvist, Sharangovich"

that's spreading the blame around to like 92% of the team you dingus. 

[mfitz804]

4 minutes ago, MB3 said:

when the fvck did you ask me that question lmao

also --

"so far today:

good: jack hughes, eric haula, dawson mercer

bad: everyone else

"WHAT THE fvck ARE YOU DOING": dougie

"where the fvck have you been?": nico

"i hate you, go away forever": Holtz, Boqvist, Sharangovich"

that's spreading the blame around to like 92% of the team you dingus. 

I believe the point was that pronouncements like “We lost because our goalie got outplayed” are stupid in a team sport, especially where, by your own quotes, the team played like absolute ass in front of him for most of the game. 

[SterioDesign]

 

4 minutes ago, MB3 said:

when the fvck did you ask me that question lmao

It's all here

 

53 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Honest question. Why is there such a raging need to find ONE scapegoat every time we lose. It's a team sport.

 

49 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Would you prefer a Mike Brown style rundown with bulletin points? Can we just be mad for 2 seconds that the Rags world class goaltender stole the game compared to ours who was average? 

 

48 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

So you honestly think my question is based purely on something i just noticed in this one specific game? Oh lord. 

 

44 minutes ago, MB3 said:

how horny do you get when the Rangers win? you must lick your chops at the prospect of calling out a bunch of fans being extra emotionally invested in this rivalry that you don't care about. 

 

Then i brought up another example of you doing the same thing recently and expanded on that.

I mean... You called me out on using hindsight 20/20 before. But ironically you blamed the loss on Ruff for putting Sharangovich on the ice.... after that specific player fvcked up lol That's hindsight 20/20.

Yet that specific player is the player who scored the OT winner in the last OT they played 2 weeks before... so how can you blame a coach for that?

 

[SterioDesign]

4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I believe the point was that pronouncements like “We lost because our goalie got outplayed” are stupid in a team sport, especially where, by your own quotes, the team played like absolute ass in front of him for most of the game. 

Precisely

That or blaming the coach for putting our most recent OT winner scorer for putting that specific player on the ice in OT lol

Edited December 13, 2022 by SterioDesign

[mfitz804]

Just now, SterioDesign said:

Precisely

That or blaming the coach for putting our most recent OT winner scorer for putting that specific player on the ice in OT lol

I have a good take, if Jack Hughes would have done something on the penalty shot instead of just losing the puck, it would never have gone to overtime, so Jack Hughes cost us this game. 

[Devilsfan118]

23 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

My question was why do you always feel the need to put losses on ONE person, when it's a team sport. Very fair question. 

Dude I'm not going to engage with you so don't bother coming at me, but this performance act you constantly play out on this forum is exhausting.

The team lost to its rival, people are frustrated.  Let them vent.  They don't need you trying to "educate" them.

You can drop the faux intellectual persona.

Edited December 13, 2022 by Devilsfan118

[SterioDesign]

3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I have a good take, if Jack Hughes would have done something on the penalty shot instead of just losing the puck, it would never have gone to overtime, so Jack Hughes cost us this game. 

i did bring this up moments ago lol

I mean, it's an interesting conversation. And shows how goalies have more pressure on them cause they are expected to be perfect every games. While some players can literally do nothing for multiple games... but as long as one or a few of the 17 other skaters do enough... it's all good.

[SterioDesign]

11 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Dude I'm not going to engage with you so don't bother coming at me, but this performance act you constantly play out on this forum is exhausting.

The team lost to its rival, people are frustrated.  Let them vent.  They don't need you trying to "educate" them.

You can drop the faux intellectual persona.

What a fvcking coward lol 

lol "I expect you to read what i'm telling you. Do what i say........ but i won't engage and don't bother answering to this"

And im the "gatekeeper" lol

 

 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SterioDesign

[mfitz804]

5 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

i did bring this up moments ago lol

I mean, it's an interesting conversation. And shows how goalies have more pressure on them cause they are expected to be perfect every games. While some players can literally do nothing for multiple games... but as long as one or a few of the 17 other skaters do enough... it's all good.

Pretty much. The fact that other things contribute to goals scored aside from the goalie’s play is also oft ignored. 

1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

What a fvcking coward lol 

lol "I expect you to read what i'm telling you. Do what i say........ but i won't engage and don't bother answering to this"

Dude tried to have the first word and the last word, on a message board lol. 

[Devilsfan118]

[SterioDesign]

15 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Pretty much. The fact that other things contribute to goals scored aside from the goalie’s play is also oft ignored. 

I mean it goes both ways i guess if we're having that conversation. Often someone scoring in OT will get ALL the credit for the win. Eventhough it was a 4-3 win and 3 other guys scored earlier.. or else there was no overtime at all lol In that case it's taking away credits from the entire team. While a scapegoat takes away the responsibility from the entire team. That's interesting to me. It's obviously an emotional response, we all get that. But we also should get that it's also not fair, so worth discussing.

I also don't see how seeing a pattern of behaviour and being fascinated by the fact that sports fans almost always require a scapegoat. And asking the question is THIS abrasive to some. It's worth a conversation. Should i just wait like... mid-july to ask it so that im not triggering anyone? lol

Edited December 13, 2022 by SterioDesign

[Satans Hockey]

32 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I have a good take, if Jack Hughes would have done something on the penalty shot instead of just losing the puck, it would never have gone to overtime, so Jack Hughes cost us this game. 

I hate the moving in slow going down to the face off circle stuff. Feels like it rarely ever works. Just come in at full speed and do something. 

I don't think Jack has a great record in shootouts either which you would think should change going forward. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Satans Hockey

[mfitz804]

6 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I hate the moving in slow going down to the face off circle stuff. Feels like it rarely ever works. Just come in at full speed and do something. 

I don't think Jack has a great record in shootouts either which you would think should change going forward. 

He had a really wide approach as well, I feel like he would have had a better chance being more direct and using his speed. That’s kind of his game. 

[SterioDesign]

Just now, mfitz804 said:

He had a really wide approach as well, I feel like he would have had a better chance being more direct and using his speed. That’s kind of his game. 

we talked about this before though with breakaway and shootouts. If you do something super smooth like you barely put an effort its like "omg that guy is so good he makes it look so easy!" like Jack actually did many times sliding pucks in the 5 holes or wtv. But when it doesn't go in then it truly looks like you didn't even try haha there's a fine line

[slasher72]

1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

We looked like a steaming, sloppy bucket of diarrhea from the point where Hughes did whatever that was on the penalty shot, and it was all downhill from there. Fvck the Rangers. 

He could have gone 5 hole and scored too. Uggh, sh!t happens.

[Nicomo]

The guy who scored a highlight reel goal, and was probably the best player on the ice for either team is pretty low on my blame list. 

Both Mercer and Jack played their asses off in this one. They were really the only reason it was even a game.

[mfitz804]

5 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

The guy who scored a highlight reel goal, and was probably the best player on the ice for either team is pretty low on my blame list. 

Both Mercer and Jack played their asses off in this one. They were really the only reason it was even a game.

I wasn’t blaming him, I was making an equally ridiculous statement as to what cost us the game. But people didn’t like his effort on the penalty shot, it seems. 

[Satans Hockey]

20 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

The guy who scored a highlight reel goal, and was probably the best player on the ice for either team is pretty low on my blame list. 

Both Mercer and Jack played their asses off in this one. They were really the only reason it was even a game.

 

14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I wasn’t blaming him, I was making an equally ridiculous statement as to what cost us the game. But people didn’t like his effort on the penalty shot, it seems. 

Yeah I'm not blaming him either for the loss. Just talking about that kind of attempt during a penalty shot, we've had other guys do it over the years as well in the shootouts and it rarely seems to work. 

[Nicomo]

20 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I wasn’t blaming him, I was making an equally ridiculous statement as to what cost us the game. But people didn’t like his effort on the penalty shot, it seems. 

I don’t think there’s anything ridiculous about saying Shesterkin outplayed Vanecek. Vanecek wasn’t even bad, Shesterkin was just better. He made some huge saves in the 3rd.