Satans Hockey Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Nicomo said: It’s also funny to me to see Rags fans (and their broadcast) try and convince themselves Kakko is actually one of their best players. Idc how good defensively he is, a #2OA winger who has 76 points in 198 GP (.38 PPG) has to be seen as trending towards bust territory. At the very least a massive disappointment. For comparison’s sake our highly drafted defensive forward - that does actually catch a decent amount of flak from fans -is currently at (.71 PPG). Lol... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Lol... “Faster” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonginator11 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Nicomo said: Could you imagine Jack playing with a winger like Panarin? He’d probably have a 120 point season. You could substitute “like Panarin” with “not named Haula” and that 120 point season would still apply😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 BTW Jack’s last 82 NHL games: 49 G, 51 A, 100 points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Puckbuster said: I can’t believe we are back to fire Ruff. How many times will you people apologize to the man. Now, I’m not saying he is the best there is, but they are second in the division and now 3-1-1 in the last four. Where they need to improve is the PP, Get Marino and Bastian back. Then, hopefully, Fitzy gets us a winger that can score by the deadline. As far as this goes, Ruff deserves to be on a very short leash, and obviously the Devils agree to some extent; otherwise Fitz doesn’t hire a ready-made replacement in Brunette. Ruff is an aging retread who hasn’t won anything and only has as many wins as he does because Buffalo hung onto him for much longer than they should have. If not for the Devils, does he ever get another head coaching gig? Once he’s inevitably cast aside for Brunette, do you think gets another shot elsewhere? Don’t forget that the Ranger fans were damn near fallating the Devils for taking Ruff off their hands. I just don’t know how much he actually brings to the table, and that’s why I’d love to see Brunette just get promoted to HC in actual name already, and then I’d like to see Brunette and Fitz pick a top-notch assistant. I feel any success the Devils have enjoyed this season is more in spite of Ruff than because of him…he feels like a weak link. Edited January 8, 2023 by Colorado Rockies 1976 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 hours ago, SterioDesign said: haha Well i agree that it's not "mild" per say.... But its mild in comparison to some meltdowns we've read on here lol Nobody’s children got raped or murdered, so there’s that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckbuster Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 19 hours ago, Rob_Ottawa said: Kane would be fantastic, but they would likely want Luke or first round pick, so not a good deal. I’ve read that a Holtz, first and second could work, but who knows. Is that too much? Maybe he sticks around for a reasonable deal for 3 or 4 years. I don’t know, just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Puckbuster said: I’ve read that a Holtz, first and second could work, but who knows. Is that too much? Maybe he sticks around for a reasonable deal for 3 or 4 years. I don’t know, just throwing it out there. where did you read that lol. it’s simultaneously likely not enough for chicago, and far too much for New Jersey. miss me with a half season rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Satans Hockey said: This has to be @MB3... hahahaha it’s a famous copypasta from the yankees subreddit about greg bird / luke voit. unfortunately not me. Edited January 8, 2023 by MB3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Puckbuster said: I’ve read that a Holtz, first and second could work, but who knows. Is that too much? Maybe he sticks around for a reasonable deal for 3 or 4 years. I don’t know, just throwing it out there. If Fitz is at all interested in Kane, I’d rather he just wait until the offseason, where he can sign him and only have to give up money to do it. Not saying those assets are untouchable, just that I’m not sure I want to give them up for Kane, who might be on the decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckbuster Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: As far as this goes, Ruff deserves to be on a very short leash, and obviously the Devils agree to some extent; otherwise Fitz doesn’t hire a ready-made replacement in Brunette. Ruff is an aging retread who hasn’t won anything and only has as many wins as he does because Buffalo hung onto him for much longer than they should have. If not for the Devils, does he ever get another head coaching gig? Once he’s inevitably cast aside for Brunette, do you think gets another shot elsewhere? Don’t forget that the Ranger fans were damn near fallating the Devils for taking Ruff off their hands. I just don’t know how much he actually brings to the table, and that’s why I’d love to see Brunette just get promoted to HC in actual name already, and then I’d like to see Brunette and Fitz pick a top-notch assistant. I feel any success the Devils have enjoyed this season is more in spite of Ruff than because of him…he feels like a weak link. So he coaches through two covid seasons, with two inept assistants and a team that was and to some degree still building and he is on a short leash? We will have to disagree and that’s fine. Also, his tenure as coach of the Sabers was mired with great teams they couldn’t overcome and kind of mirrors the Leafs. Someone had to lose and it was the Sabers. As far as, Brunette, why do you give so much credit to him? Isn’t he in charge of getting the PP going? It’s worse than last year. I think the weak link is the roster as a whole. There is not enough grit and size. And, where there is suppose to be grit and size, the talent isn’t there, i.e. Smith. Just look at the Vesey goal. It’s apparent that the Devils want to play the transition game and our D plays the puck with their sticks rather than the body. This is what Smith attempts and fails miserably. It happens every game. If he played the body, and in the old days Stevens would have knocked Vesey in to next week, there would be no goal and Okhutiuk recovers the puck. Sometimes, the basics still work. https://www.nhl.com/video/vesey-nets-opening-goal/t-336298990/c-14592049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Puckbuster said: So he coaches through two covid seasons, with two inept assistants and a team that was and to some degree still building and he is on a short leash? We will have to disagree and that’s fine. Also, his tenure as coach of the Sabers was mired with great teams they couldn’t overcome and kind of mirrors the Leafs. Someone had to lose and it was the Sabers. As far as, Brunette, why do you give so much credit to him? Isn’t he in charge of getting the PP going? It’s worse than last year. I think the weak link is the roster as a whole. There is not enough grit and size. And, where there is suppose to be grit and size, the talent isn’t there, i.e. Smith. Just look at the Vesey goal. It’s apparent that the Devils want to play the transition game and our D plays the puck with their sticks rather than the body. This is what Smith attempts and fails miserably. It happens every game. If he played the body, and in the old days Stevens would have knocked Vesey in to next week, there would be no goal and Okhutiuk recovers the puck. Sometimes, the basics still work. https://www.nhl.com/video/vesey-nets-opening-goal/t-336298990/c-14592049 This year’s power play: 20.63% Last year’s power play: 15.56% Explain to me how that’s worse? Also, why did the Devils hire a guy who was not only a head coach for most of last season, but was given the title of “Associate Coach” as opposed to “Assistant Coach”? You really think if the Devils’ potential playoff berth is in jeopardy, that Fitz won’t think about a HC change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, MB3 said: hahahaha it’s a famous copypasta from the yankees subreddit about greg bird / luke voit. unfortunately not me. Hmm, well you are a Yankees fan, and you knew which players it was written about…seems suspect lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckbuster Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, MB3 said: where did you read that lol. it’s simultaneously likely not enough for chicago, and far too much for New Jersey. miss me with a half season rental. It was about 5 weeks ago. And sorry, it’s Holtz, first and fifth. Then in December. that’s where lol. You don’t have to be a douche. 11 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: This year’s power play: 20.63% Last year’s power play: 15.56% Explain to me how that’s worse? Also, why did the Devils hire a guy who was not only a head coach for most of last season, but was given the title of “Associate Coach” as opposed to “Assistant Coach”? You really think if the Devils’ potential playoff berth is in jeopardy, that Fitz won’t think about a HC change? Ok, so it’s the same. It still sucks is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckbuster Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: If Fitz is at all interested in Kane, I’d rather he just wait until the offseason, where he can sign him and only have to give up money to do it. Not saying those assets are untouchable, just that I’m not sure I want to give them up for Kane, who might be on the decline. That’s just it, though. Is he in decline or just on a really bad team. Also, is Holtz the future or not. That’s why I’m just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckbuster Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: This year’s power play: 20.63% Last year’s power play: 15.56% Explain to me how that’s worse? Also, why did the Devils hire a guy who was not only a head coach for most of last season, but was given the title of “Associate Coach” as opposed to “Assistant Coach”? You really think if the Devils’ potential playoff berth is in jeopardy, that Fitz won’t think about a HC change? Yes, Brunette will be the next HC. If they don’t make the playoff, definitely. Agreed. Just saying, the year isn’t half way done. They are second in the division and again we are talking to fire the guy. But, let’s not ignore that the PP sucks and Brunette was supposed to turn it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Puckbuster said: That’s just it, though. Is he in decline or just on a really bad team. Also, is Holtz the future or not. That’s why I’m just throwing it out there. I don’t know if Holtz is the future, but I want to see what happens with him. Not sure if I’m willing to give up on him for Patrick Kane for a couple of months and probably still an early playoff exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @PuckbusterHow is a power play that is now clicking at 20.63% and ranked 21st “the same” as a power play that clicked at 15.56% and was ranked 28th? Does that make any sense at all? re: Kane, I posted “might” be on the decline. I don’t know for sure, but I’d rather not risk tradeable assets on him…I can wait to sign him and still have those pieces to either keep or use for someone with prime years left. This year has largely been fun but don’t think they’re a legit Cup contender just yet. I don’t think this is the time to make a costly “all in” kind of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I really think it's time to give Palat-Hughes-Holtz a try again. Palat is an upgrade in every way over Haula, other than faceoffs. Holtz can be the finisher that Jack needs. Holtz hasn't been amazing lately, but definitely better than he was earlier in the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: @PuckbusterHow is a power play that is now clicking at 20.63% and ranked 21st “the same” as a power play that clicked at 15.56% and was ranked 28th? Does that make any sense at all? It’s a slight improvement, as the numbers indicate. Certainly still not good and nothing to write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Puckbuster said: Yes, Brunette will be the next HC. If they don’t make the playoff, definitely. Agreed. Just saying, the year isn’t half way done. They are second in the division and again we are talking to fire the guy. But, let’s not ignore that the PP sucks and Brunette was supposed to turn it around. Year isn’t halfway done but losing a whole of home games and showing signs of going off the rails has to warm Ruff’s seat up. They are showing signs of stabilizing for now…let’s hope that continues. The power play isn’t great (that’s not what I was trying to suggest) but at least it’s no longer worthless, as it was under Recchi, and it has gotten better, as the numbers show…it is absolutely not “the same”. We’ll see if it can continue to improve as the season goes on. I’d like to see it get to league average. Edited January 8, 2023 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The power play feels like it’s been much better lately. It was pretty much Jack scores or no one does for a while, but Dougie has been getting his shot through a lot all of a sudden. And Nico is as good as anyone in the league at getting tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nicomo said: The power play feels like it’s been much better lately. It was pretty much Jack scores or no one does for a while, but Dougie has been getting his shot through a lot all of a sudden. And Nico is as good as anyone in the league at getting tips. They’re converting at a 22.2% rate over their last 15 GP…league average is currently 22.5%. Not going to say that the Devils’ power play feels like some formidable unit by any stretch, but at least it’s headed in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansinz88 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Satans Hockey said: Lol... Guy is pathetic and sucked as a player and worse as an analyst. I’d like him to watch that live and respond. Punk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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