Satans Hockey Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Personally I don't know why anyone gives a sh!t whether they move or not. It doesn't affect us whatsoever. If anything it sets a good precedent that the NHL doesn't move teams easily. Look at Oakland who went from having an NBA, NFL and MLB team and in just a matter of a few years have/will have lost all 3. Yes the warriors moved to San Francisco and people can still go but it's still a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 13 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Personally I don't know why anyone gives a sh!t whether they move or not. It doesn't affect us whatsoever. If anything it sets a good precedent that the NHL doesn't move teams easily. Look at Oakland who went from having an NBA, NFL and MLB team and in just a matter of a few years have/will have lost all 3. Yes the warriors moved to San Francisco and people can still go but it's still a lot. It’s just embarrassing for hockey. I know it doesn’t affect the Devils in any way. But it’s just ridiculous that after 14 years, this circus is still going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Dubas out in Toronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Dubas out in Toronto I don’t know if I’m more shocked that they actually did it or that they didn’t gas Keene too/first… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 minute ago, jagknife said: I don’t know if I’m more shocked that they actually did it or that they didn’t gas Keene too/first… They didn’t actually do anything; his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 That's too bad, I was hoping they would keep him around to negotiate the next round of contracts with Matthews, Marner and Nylander. I don't care that it was Austin Matthews, who gives a guy coming off his ELC absolute top dollar while not buying any RFA years in the term AND he agreed to a NMC that kicks in 7/1 so he gave himself as little leverage as possible in negotiations for an extension? Oh well, now it's someone else's problem. Just don't come for Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 18 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Dubas out in Toronto Everytime I see "Dubas" I can't help but read "Dumbass" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 No doubt whoever takes over in Toronto will want his own coach and to put his own stamp on the team. I'm in absolutely no doubt that the Toronto fans will understand this and be ever so patient while they "re-tool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 52 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: They didn’t actually do anything; his contract is up. Ah, well that would make more sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 22 minutes ago, jagknife said: Ah, well that would make more sense I'd be more interested in hearing if it was them or him. He didn't sound too keen on a return either. Wonder what this will mean for Matthews too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 minute ago, NJDevils1214 said: I'd be more interested in hearing if it was them or him. He didn't sound too keen on a return either. Wonder what this will mean for Matthews too. The Leafs press release does say that they've decided to part ways. That being said, I was under the impression that they had previously made an offer for an extension, so not sure what changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 15 minutes ago, Lateralous said: The Leafs press release does say that they've decided to part ways. That being said, I was under the impression that they had previously made an offer for an extension, so not sure what changed. Is it me or should the next guy to find his way into the crosshairs be Shanahan himself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 16 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Is it me or should the next guy to find his way into the crosshairs be Shanahan himself? Nope; he has not been held accountable. The next one is on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Oh fvck off https://deadspin.com/report-joel-quenneville-to-discuss-nhl-future-with-gar-1850454818?utm_campaign=Deadspin&utm_content=1684518303&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR02aQhRQ_Nc7fC8s1A2HSCvKawfCFnvCQt5Dh331ghMre2cfiJX-H4EkoU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 19 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Oh fvck off https://deadspin.com/report-joel-quenneville-to-discuss-nhl-future-with-gar-1850454818?utm_campaign=Deadspin&utm_content=1684518303&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR02aQhRQ_Nc7fC8s1A2HSCvKawfCFnvCQt5Dh331ghMre2cfiJX-H4EkoU Feels like he needs to be denied a HC position a hell of a lot longer that he has so far. 10 years absolute minimum. Guy was a LOT more concerned about winning a Cup than the welfare of one of his players. fvck him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Feels like he needs to be denied a HC position a hell of a lot longer that he has so far. 10 years absolute minimum. Guy was a LOT more concerned about winning a Cup than the welfare of one of his players. fvck him. I couldn’t agree more. But you know how this sh!t goes. That piece of sh!t will be back behind an NHL bench next Fall. After the meeting will come the pandering; oh I’ve learned soooooo much from my mistake, and I’m a better person, and I’m sorry, and blah blah blah blah blah. And after that some dickface franchise announces his hiring, and it’s like nothing ever happened. That is society in 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I couldn’t agree more. But you know how this sh!t goes. That piece of sh!t will be back behind an NHL bench next Fall. After the meeting will come the pandering; oh I’ve learned soooooo much from my mistake, and I’m a better person, and I’m sorry, and blah blah blah blah blah. And after that some dickface franchise announces his hiring, and it’s like nothing ever happened. That is society in 2023. They reinstate him this quickly and it becomes obvious to me that Bettman damned near condones this kinda of sh!t. AFAIC it’s pretty bad optics for Q to be even looking to get back in so soon. Reeks of not realizing his part in everything that happened, as well as minimizing it. “OK I missed a whopping two years can I coach now?” fvck off Q. Seriously, the only thing this fvcker is sorry about is that everything that happened came out, and the personal “inconveniences” that have befallen him as a result. Like not being able to do a job he apparently feels that he’s entitled to have. Edited May 19 by Colorado Rockies 1976 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 37 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Oh fvck off https://deadspin.com/report-joel-quenneville-to-discuss-nhl-future-with-gar-1850454818?utm_campaign=Deadspin&utm_content=1684518303&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR02aQhRQ_Nc7fC8s1A2HSCvKawfCFnvCQt5Dh331ghMre2cfiJX-H4EkoU Bowman as well. This stuff will continue to happen because the only punishment is a year away and then your celebrated return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Is it me or should the next guy to find his way into the crosshairs be Shanahan himself? Absolutely! Dubas might have been the public face of this failed experiment but Shanahan absolutely must have signed off on building this team around a few guys and then running it back over and over again. I was out at meetings the last few hours but the drama seems to have gone to another level after the Shanahan presser. They offered him an extension after the all star break and then Dubas just came back Wednesday squeezing them for more money? Edited May 19 by Lateralous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: They reinstate him this quickly and it becomes obvious to me that Bettman damned near condones this kinda of sh!t. AFAIC it’s pretty bad optics for Q to be even looking to get back in so soon. Reeks of not realizing his part in everything that happened, as well as minimizing it. “OK I missed a whopping two years can I coach now?” fvck off Q. Seriously, the only thing this fvcker is sorry about is that everything that happened came out, and the personal “inconveniences” that have befallen him as a result. Like not being able to do a job he apparently feels that he’s entitled to have. I'm only vaguely familiar with what Bowman/Q did (or didn't do) so I won't get into that, but in terms of what he wants to come back so early I have to imagine his age is a big part of that. Dude probably doesn't have 10 years to sit around and wait. Not saying that means he should be back in, just stating a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: I'm only vaguely familiar with what Bowman/Q did (or didn't do) so I won't get into that, but in terms of what he wants to come back so early I have to imagine his age is a big part of that. Dude probably doesn't have 10 years to sit around and wait. Not saying that means he should be back in, just stating a fact. I hold the abuser responsible personally. Let him coach. Let him coach the Rags for all I care. If they did something illegal, charge them. If not then they should be allowed to work with a stained reputation. Just my two cents. Edited May 19 by RizzMB30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, RizzMB30 said: I hold the abuser responsible personally. Let him coach. Let him coach the Rags for all I care. If they did something illegal, charge them. If not then they should be allowed to work with a stained reputation. Just my two cents. Right - I never got into all the details because I just don't care to give my time to it frankly, but when it comes to things like this that's usually my opinion on them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Statute of limitations makes it difficult to impossible to subject anyone to criminal charges at this point and that is a heavy burden to have to prove(beyond a reasonable doubt) this much later. The investigation revealed that Sr.Management was told about the incident because Beach confided in another coach and that coach brought it to their attention and the people in that room, two of which being Quenneville and Bowman, who cared more about the finals and PR than doing the right thing. That is not a good look for the NHL and an even worse look when you have them removed from their million dollar jobs and just let them come back a few years later once the dust settles. It shows the NHL doesn't give a sh!t about the sexual abuse of young players, and that as long as it doesn't hurt their PR, or their wallets, they don't care. These dudes didn't throw a few bucks on the game and get caught, they covered up abuse. If Kyle Beach were an 18 year old woman I don't even think this would be up for debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Well as it turns out, this Dubas situation was not just a guy walking away on an expiring contract. Holy sh!t, what a mess: https://thehockeynews.com/news/opinion-the-maple-leafs-are-more-disorganized-than-ever?fbclid=IwAR004WOLFM0wnSa-lYCFHxYxrS3IzvBNUJCjq3GyQnNWBvEOUxQojHz9WUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 2 hours ago, RizzMB30 said: I hold the abuser responsible personally. Let him coach. Let him coach the Rags for all I care. If they did something illegal, charge them. If not then they should be allowed to work with a stained reputation. Just my two cents. My issue is he KNEW it was happening. In my job, if you have knowledge of something like this happening, its a failure to report and you too can be charged. Granted we all know i'm in a much different situation than most, but he didn't protect his people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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