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7 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

There was such a long wait between series that I think a majority of the sports world doesn't even realize hockey is still happening 

Part of me wonders if the momentum and hype that Florida was on coming off that sweep and two prior great series victories has worn off a little bit. No doubt that they're all professionals and they'll be ready for the first game, but I just think that maybe it would have been a little bit elevated if there was a shorter break in between. 

I want Vegas to win and I still think they'll take it in 6, but should be a great series. 

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On 6/2/2023 at 10:46 AM, NJDevils1214 said:

I am surprised Boston walked back things on Mitch Miller when they signed him, but that took considerable pressure from fans and Boston players and there was no money involved. That was a Chernobyl level PR disaster.

But... Yes, the bolded pretty much. The only place where grass-roots movements make a difference against billion dollar corporations where money is involved is in the movies.

If we(fans) couldn't rise up and bitch hard enough about the board ads everyone hates there is no way we're going to change their minds on the Jersey ads. Even if you had 100% support of a place the size of the hockey subreddit, that's still not big enough to make a dent for a long enough amount of time to have them walk it back.

 

On 6/2/2023 at 10:49 AM, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

First and foremost, I agree with you, I hate ads on the jersey and so wish that it wasn't a thing.  But that can of worms has already been opened and more worms will be squirming with the ones already released, in due time.

The fact is one million signatures won't mean jack sh!t to Bettman & Co.  Think about how small of a number that is with regards to the entire NHL fanbase.  Also ask yourself how passionate most of them would truly be about this.

If you really want to see the NHL even begin to reconsider affixing ads to jerseys, you'd need to see some pushback on a Bud Light-ian scale.  You'd first need to see a massive and immediate dropoff in jersey sales (which clearly already didn't happen).  The NHL of course (and whoever is manufacturing the jerseys...right now that's obviously Adidas, but not for much longer) would then want to know what is the root cause capable driving such a sharp sales decline; they won't be fully convinced right off the bat that it's strictly due to jersey ads, even if many fans are already making it blatantly obvious.  The NHL will want conclusive evidence supporting such a correlation.  So there would then be market research performed and consumer polls taken as part of a comprehensive study to determine beyond any reasonable doubt that yes indeed, fans in very large numbers are SO bent out of shape about jersey ads that they're willing not to buy any team's jersey that adorns ads of any kind.  And even then, the powers that be would probably take an extended "Let's see if this blows over" approach before doing anything that they'd consider "rash".

Besides, sports are a diversion, in the grand scheme of life...people won't be pissed off long enough to fight a good fight they have little chance of winning, and they'll go into "OK I don't like these stupid jersey ads but I guess that I can live with 'em, was only a matter of time anyway" mode sooner than later...so much so that those who continue to complain about them will be told "OK, we get it, you hate jersey ads, they ain't going anywhere, get over it already!"

And of course, if ever asked directly, Bettman & Co will just about always say "Well we've done our research and we find that the fans really like [insert polarizing-at-best change here].  Because as soon as we say something, it's automatically true by default and that's that.  So there!"  

 

On 6/2/2023 at 11:12 AM, MadDog2020 said:

Uh…. Yeah, pretty much. You could stop buying tickets and merch, but that’s your only recourse.

For the record I don't disagree with any of you. I'm just making conversation because it's the offseason and there's been a week long break between series, and because I already can't wait until October. 

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I’m legitimately excited to watch this series. 

Also, sure it’s Florida, but I’m well in college football territory, definitely not a hockey market and there is a buzz here about this series.

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15 minutes ago, jagknife said:

I’m legitimately excited to watch this series. 

Also, sure it’s Florida, but I’m well in college football territory, definitely not a hockey market and there is a buzz here about this series.

You're in FL?  I thought you were in AZ or lol for some reason. 

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14 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

You're in FL?  I thought you were in AZ or lol for some reason. 

Was in lol for 5.5 years but moved to NW Florida 3 years ago. Moving to Texas in a year.

all moves cause of work

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1 hour ago, jagknife said:

Was in lol for 5.5 years but moved to NW Florida 3 years ago. Moving to Texas in a year.

all moves cause of work

Just curious, but why would NW Florida have a buzz about this series more so than the last 3 finals when Tampa was in it?   

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3 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

Just curious, but why would NW Florida have a buzz about this series more so than the last 3 finals when Tampa was in it?   

No idea, could be i'm paying attention to it versus not really last couple years, especially the COVID one.

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6 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

I can't stand the Stalls and I hate that Tkachuk has a mouth guard to simply have it hang out of his mouth and chew on it the entire fvcking game so I hope Vegas sweeps Florida. 

This might be one of the weirdest and most specific reasons I’ve ever seen for hating a hockey player. :lol:

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11 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

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I actually think they offered Riley Smith for Vegas to select Marchessault.

Vegas also got a 1st and 2nd round pick from Columbus for them to take William Karlsson.

Ducks gave up Shea Theodore for VGK to take Clayton Stoner.

And Minnesota threw in Alex Tuch to get VGK to take Haula.

That's probably why none of these deals happened for Seattle haha

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

This might be one of the weirdest and most specific reasons I’ve ever seen for hating a hockey player. :lol:

It's literally all game and it's absolutely chewed to sh!t, with the long run they are on and showing him even more it's impossible not to notice it. Hell even the graphics that tnt uses has a picture of him doing it, I hate it, chew a piece of gum instead lol

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6 hours ago, Crisis said:

I actually think they offered Riley Smith for Vegas to select Marchessault.

Vegas also got a 1st and 2nd round pick from Columbus for them to take William Karlsson.

Ducks gave up Shea Theodore for VGK to take Clayton Stoner.

And Minnesota threw in Alex Tuch to get VGK to take Haula.

That's probably why none of these deals happened for Seattle haha

VGK probably built the quickest playoff-ready team in the history of the NHL. Most of their core guys are in their early 30's so they still have a few more years left.  

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I want Florida for the sole reason, the way they came back vs boston and stabbed them in the heart in OT 2x at home when/where they could've clinched the series. Especially gm 7, with the goalie pulled. Bonus reason, for sweeping the canes. 

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