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1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

He had his moments. But he sucked in the playoffs. 

I’ll also add he’s the kind of guy that a team like the Flyers will sign for way too many years and way too much coin.

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Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I’ll also add he’s the kind of guy that a team like the Flyers will sign for way too many years and way too much coin.

Good, let that be one of Jones’ Crown Jewels we’ll get to laugh about 4-5 times a season like freaking Risto

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6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

He had his moments. But he sucked in the playoffs. 

I don't know where the mobility and the decision-making went. Same thing can be said of Vanecek, but I firmly believe that Vanecek will bounce back, get another whack at things next year. I don't know if the regression is here to stay with Graves because he kind of went from being a big, mobile, guy who can get it up the ice himself or pass well to being that "up the boards and out" big guy.  

Not good and I actually think I'll pass on him too based on the regression. I think stay away from long-term deals too for him just based on his year this year. Very similar situation to Severson. Good enough for most NHL teams, not sure if he's worth what he will likely get paid. 

Hey guys, Lindy's presser isn't bad. Jack was dealing with something upper-body. 

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1 minute ago, RizzMB30 said:

I don't know where the mobility and the decision-making went. Same thing can be said of Vanecek, but I firmly believe that Vanecek will bounce back, get another whack at things next year. I don't know if the regression is here to stay with Graves because he kind of went from being a big, mobile, guy who can get it up the ice himself or pass well to being that "up the boards and out" big guy.  

Not good. 

Hey guys, Lindy's presser isn't bad. Jack was dealing with something upper-body. 

Graves was so reliable with a few boneheaded plays in the regular season to Ken Klee 2.0 when the post season hit, it was atrocious 

Just now, DevilMinder said:

My money is 100% on shoulder injury. I just freaking hope it’s not 6-9 months…

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2 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Graves was so reliable with a few boneheaded plays in the regular season to Ken Klee 2.0 when the post season hit, it was atrocious 


Right, it definitely isn't solely on him at all, but he unfortunately stood out next to Marino as being the weak link on the D and in the top 4. At least to me. Least consistent of the top 4 and when he was down, it was usually a 6 goal game against us. 

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1 minute ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Marino was great. You're crazy.

Look Whos Talking Now Omg GIF


I was talking about Graves. I think Marino is our 2nd best dman after Hamm. Reread. 

Was saying Graves looked like the weakest in spite of being next to Marino for most of his ice-time. 

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Oh man. Watching that Fast goal again. 

Graves could have cleared the net, but he floated up higher in the slot more. Fast had Schmid screened and he got the tip. 

Just now, NJDevils1214 said:

Yea I get that now that you elaborate. The original way you wrote it did not lead to me interpreting your sentence the way you had intended.

My apologies. 

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2 minutes ago, RizzMB30 said:

Oh man. Watching that Fast goal again. 

Graves could have cleared the net, but he floated up higher in the slot more. Fast had Schmid screened and he got the tip. 

My apologies. 

Graves was softer than babysh!t all playoffs. Krieder literally stamped his ownership brand on his ass, USDA style.

So color me shocked when I read he was floating like the Charmin ultra soft cloud he is.

big body, useless with it.

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Anyone else feel like Dougie was terrible in the playoffs, particularly this series?  He looked so slow, was almost a non-factor on the PP compared to the regular season, and just didn't seem to bring much at all.  I was really hoping his big body and size, not to mention experience, would be an asset in the post-season, but he seems incredibly soft and doesn't throw many hits.  This again on top of him just being a legit parking cone so often.

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1 minute ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Anyone else feel like Dougie was terrible in the playoffs, particularly this series?  He looked so slow, was almost a non-factor on the PP compared to the regular season, and just didn't seem to bring much at all.  I was really hoping his big body and size, not to mention experience, would be an asset in the post-season, but he seems incredibly soft and doesn't throw many hits.  This again on top of him just being a legit parking cone so often.

I definitely got tired of hearing “and Dougie misses the net!”

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Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I definitely got tired of hearing “and Dougie misses the net!”

Yeah, he seems to miss the net a ton.  I was more surprised at just how many times he allowed a Cane player who was forechecking to beat him to the puck. 

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1 minute ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Anyone else feel like Dougie was terrible in the playoffs, particularly this series?  He looked so slow, was almost a non-factor on the PP compared to the regular season, and just didn't seem to bring much at all.  I was really hoping his big body and size, not to mention experience, would be an asset in the post-season, but he seems incredibly soft and doesn't throw many hits.  This again on top of him just being a legit parking cone so often.

nope he was slow soft and didn't do sh!t on offense minus that game winner. he seemed like a regular season stud. which is great! but now that we sniffed the playoffs.. he gotta be better

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20 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Graves was so reliable with a few boneheaded plays in the regular season to Ken Klee 2.0 when the post season hit, it was atrocious 

My money is 100% on shoulder injury. I just freaking hope it’s not 6-9 months…

ugh, not the same shoulder you think?

fvck me if this becomes a reoccurring injury.

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Just now, Devilsfan118 said:

ugh, not the same shoulder you think?

fvck me if this becomes a reoccurring injury.

Oh I honestly have no idea. I just think about him getting clipped the game after the all star game when I desperately wanted to blame Tkchyuck (or however you spell it) and he didn’t have the same Jack game breaking as he did and it took a while for him to break back out

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2 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Graves was softer than babysh!t all playoffs. Krieder literally stamped his ownership brand on his ass, USDA style.

So color me shocked when I read he was floating like the Charmin ultra soft cloud he is.

big body, useless with it.


Fast was on the left side too and it was Gravesy's side there. @NJDevils1214 and the COL fans I think were on to something regarding just his overall playoffs. 

I might even go back and watch every playoff game in the replays before my ESPN+ runs out and try to track some of the defensemen and their shifts. Check their possession numbers because I would bet that Graves regression hit just as we were coming into the playoffs. 

I was just saying that it's not all on Graves, but that may have really killed us. I don't know if Graves just gets fatigued maybe by this time of the year, maybe he was playing hurt, but yeah.

Can't be held down by players who simply aren't going to get us there. 

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32 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Anyone else feel like Dougie was terrible in the playoffs, particularly this series?  He looked so slow, was almost a non-factor on the PP compared to the regular season, and just didn't seem to bring much at all.  I was really hoping his big body and size, not to mention experience, would be an asset in the post-season, but he seems incredibly soft and doesn't throw many hits.  This again on top of him just being a legit parking cone so often.

Yeah, I wasn’t impressed with him at all.  Looked like more of a specialist than a top Pairing defenseman in these playoffs.   
 

IMO, Marino has established himself as the best all around defender on this team, at least temporarily until Luke explodes 

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7 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Anyone else feel like Dougie was terrible in the playoffs, particularly this series?  He looked so slow, was almost a non-factor on the PP compared to the regular season, and just didn't seem to bring much at all.  I was really hoping his big body and size, not to mention experience, would be an asset in the post-season, but he seems incredibly soft and doesn't throw many hits.  This again on top of him just being a legit parking cone so often.

I thought he looked generally okay in 5v5. Offense kind of dried up in all situations though for sure. 

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