2023-2024 Around The League thread

[njbuff]

10 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

The Giants will be wearing jerseys Sunday against the Vikings that’ll look a lot like Montreal’s jersey.

 

Yikes.

[RunninWithTheDevil]

23 minutes ago, njbuff said:

The Giants will be wearing jerseys Sunday against the Vikings that’ll look a lot like Montreal’s jersey.

 

Yikes.

Wow those look awful lol

[RunninWithTheDevil]

 

 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

36 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

 

Guess anyone who skates near Will Smith better remember to keep his wife's name out their fvckin' mouths...

[Jimmy Leeds]

1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

 

Well, he is short

[RunninWithTheDevil]

59 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Guess anyone who skates near Will Smith better remember to keep his wife's name out their fvckin' mouths...

WOW IT WAS A G.I. JANE JOKE DUDE

[hystyk28]

1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Guess anyone who skates near Will Smith better remember to keep his wife's name out their fvckin' mouths...

Is Will Smith the love child of Will Butcher and Ty Smith?

How slow would he be?

[StarDew]

Anyone get The Hockey News? In this issue they discuss all teams for the upcoming season. On page 78 for the Columbus Blue Jackets they have a huge picture of Johnny Hockey as the face of the team. Tears are back. 😢 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

58 minutes ago, StarDew said:

Anyone get The Hockey News? In this issue they discuss all teams for the upcoming season. On page 78 for the Columbus Blue Jackets they have a huge picture of Johnny Hockey as the face of the team. Tears are back. 😢 

Whenever Katie and her fiancé decide to go forward with their wedding, I hope her and her family find as much as joy as they possibly can out of their very special day.  But hard to think there won’t still be a lot of sadness and incredible sense of loss.  Sean Higgins can’t do enough time AFAIC.

Edited September 4 by Colorado Rockies 1976

[MadDog2020]

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

1 hour ago, hystyk28 said:

Is Will Smith the love child of Will Butcher and Ty Smith?

How slow would he be?

Damn extremely well-played.

1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

WOW IT WAS A G.I. JANE JOKE DUDE

Don’t know if you ever saw Chris Rock’s standup retort but it was absolutely brilliant and both Will Smith and the person more famous for being Mrs. Will Smith more than anything else deserves every last word of it.

[MadDog2020]

 

[titans04]

I've been away the last few weeks and found myself thinking about this a lot. Here's what I know based on experience. When you lose someone close to you you wake up everyday and you lose them all over again. Many times the deepest cuts don't heal at all and if they do over time (mine haven't) the weight of the scar never gets any lighter. The hole that is left never closes and I can't even imagine losing 2 in the blink of an eye.

The guy who did this should never see the light of day, the charges of 5-10 years max is absurd even if served consecutively even more fuc*ed up if served concurrently.  There's no penalty strong even to fit the devastation he caused especially when it's x's 2.  Throw in his attitude and he should be brought to trial and sentenced to life with no opportunity of parole and that would be generous.  Instead the sentence will most likely be much less, I doubt he serves anywhere near the 20 years another few pounds of salt into the wounds that will already never close.

[Jimmy Leeds]

Fresh tears

[Satans Hockey]

3 hours ago, titans04 said:

 

The guy who did this should never see the light of day, the charges of 5-10 years max is absurd even if served consecutively even more fuc*ed up if served concurrently.  There's no penalty strong even to fit the devastation he caused especially when it's x's 2.  Throw in his attitude and he should be brought to trial and sentenced to life with no opportunity of parole and that would be generous.  Instead the sentence will most likely be much less, I doubt he serves anywhere near the 20 years another few pounds of salt into the wounds that will already never close.

 

I'm with you on all of this and I ain't defending the guy whatsoever but I think that video of his "attitude" that I've seen so many people talk about was more his realization that he truly fvcked up. I didn't see anyone mention this either but he looks like he's wearing a suicide prevention jacket in that video as well. He has 2 young daughters at home and it's sinking in now that he ain't just getting out of there right away and seeing them and now is realizing how badly he fvcked his life up. 

[RunninWithTheDevil]

5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

 

I'm with you on all of this and I ain't defending the guy whatsoever but I think that video of his "attitude" that I've seen so many people talk about was more his realization that he truly fvcked up. I didn't see anyone mention this either but he looks like he's wearing a suicide prevention jacket in that video as well. He has 2 young daughters at home and it's sinking in now that he ain't just getting out of there right away and seeing them and now is realizing how badly he fvcked his life up. 

I think it was mainly the ".....so I'm here until Thursday?" then the exasperated sigh when they tell him yes. 

Yeah, dumb fvck, you just destroyed multiple families by being an irresponsible drunk-driving piece of sh!t, sorry to inconvenience you. Feel bad for his kids but at least they still have a dad at the end of the day. Johnny and Matt's family can't say the same 

[MadDog2020]

They had a candlelight vigil outside Nationwide Arena tonight; everyone observed 13 minutes and 21 seconds of silence 😥

[Lateralous]

2 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

 

I'm with you on all of this and I ain't defending the guy whatsoever but I think that video of his "attitude" that I've seen so many people talk about was more his realization that he truly fvcked up. I didn't see anyone mention this either but he looks like he's wearing a suicide prevention jacket in that video as well. He has 2 young daughters at home and it's sinking in now that he ain't just getting out of there right away and seeing them and now is realizing how badly he fvcked his life up. 

Thanks for posting this.  I had something similar half written up earlier and then never got around to finishing it.  

After seeing him quoted as saying "...so I'm here until Thursday?" I was taken back that someone could say something like that after killing two innocent human beings with his Grand Cherokee.  It got me to go back and watch the full video of that pre-sentencing, or whatever it was, to see the comment and get the full context.   To be honest, he did not strike me as someone who was in any way unremorseful as that quote would suggest in print.   I thought Higgins looked like a guy who knew he fvcked up a lot of peoples lives, including those of his wife and daughters as you mentioned.   How could he not after witnessing the aftermath of his actions?   I doubt he has any illusions as to the long term implications of this.  I took his reaction to not getting out "until Thursday" as the realization that he wouldn't be able to get back to his family to even start their healing process for a week.  He probably thought he was getting out relatively quickly and his days in the courtroom, and subsequently jail, wouldn't start for a few weeks.    I get it, the Gaudreau's will never get that opportunity with their families, so a week isn't a big deal, but his wife and daughters didn't do anything to bring this on themselves either.   

One other point that has been bothering me.   The general narrative seems to be that the Gaudreau's were killed by a drunk driver but the more I read about this it seems like it was more of a lethal combination of super aggressive driving and buzzed driving.  Maybe not so much in combination but it's sh!t we unfortunately see on the roads way too much every day.   It's too convenient to just write off as getting hit by someone who was black out drunk.  Most people can say "well I don't drive after getting completely sh!t faced."    As this event shows, buzzed driving and weaving through traffic have their consequences too.   I feel like the dangers of those actions are getting missed with some of the general narrative of it being the Gaudreau's were "hit by a drunk driver".     

Obviously this Higgins guy deserves a lot of well earned time behind bars but I don't see him as some sort of monster that needs to be locked away forever   I hope there is an opportunity for him to come out the other side to try and redeem himself. 

 

[NJDfan1711]

On 9/3/2024 at 2:02 PM, aylbert said:

It's win now mode... there is no tomorrow.
Draisaitl is 28 now, 29 in his October.
This contract wont kick in until he is 30, and you're paying him 14mm through 38?  
He's being paid for what he has done, not what he will do.   
They need to win now... or they never will with him.

You can't really blame players who outperform their contracts though. Are they not entitled to compensation for excelling in their role? I think some teams/GMs understand that, and they are willing to deal with contracts that may look ugly in the future, to make up for paying a guy lower in the past. I know sports are different than most industries, but if you went to work every day making minimum wage and you were the best employee in your company for a few years, you'd want a raise too. 

Obviously paying a guy for "what he will do" is purely speculative because it hasn't happened yet, so sometimes you have to pay a guy for what he's already done. 

[RunninWithTheDevil]

10 hours ago, Lateralous said:

Thanks for posting this.  I had something similar half written up earlier and then never got around to finishing it.  

After seeing him quoted as saying "...so I'm here until Thursday?" I was taken back that someone could say something like that after killing two innocent human beings with his Grand Cherokee.  It got me to go back and watch the full video of that pre-sentencing, or whatever it was, to see the comment and get the full context.   To be honest, he did not strike me as someone who was in any way unremorseful as that quote would suggest in print.   I thought Higgins looked like a guy who knew he fvcked up a lot of peoples lives, including those of his wife and daughters as you mentioned.   How could he not after witnessing the aftermath of his actions?   I doubt he has any illusions as to the long term implications of this.  I took his reaction to not getting out "until Thursday" as the realization that he wouldn't be able to get back to his family to even start their healing process for a week.  He probably thought he was getting out relatively quickly and his days in the courtroom, and subsequently jail, wouldn't start for a few weeks.    I get it, the Gaudreau's will never get that opportunity with their families, so a week isn't a big deal, but his wife and daughters didn't do anything to bring this on themselves either.   

One other point that has been bothering me.   The general narrative seems to be that the Gaudreau's were killed by a drunk driver but the more I read about this it seems like it was more of a lethal combination of super aggressive driving and buzzed driving.  Maybe not so much in combination but it's sh!t we unfortunately see on the roads way too much every day.   It's too convenient to just write off as getting hit by someone who was black out drunk.  Most people can say "well I don't drive after getting completely sh!t faced."    As this event shows, buzzed driving and weaving through traffic have their consequences too.   I feel like the dangers of those actions are getting missed with some of the general narrative of it being the Gaudreau's were "hit by a drunk driver".     

Obviously this Higgins guy deserves a lot of well earned time behind bars but I don't see him as some sort of monster that needs to be locked away forever   I hope there is an opportunity for him to come out the other side to try and redeem himself. 

 

5-6 beers is not a buzz

[MadDog2020]

https://www.nj.com/salem/2024/09/driver-accused-of-killing-nhl-star-johnny-gaudreau-brother-will-spend-at-least-another-week-in-jail.html?e=8658faf1d729ecd196a43ec693bac849&lctg=62d3007ad453ae4f1506cf0b&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=gaudreau-suspect-jail&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news

[Jimmy Leeds]

Just now, MadDog2020 said:

https://www.nj.com/salem/2024/09/driver-accused-of-killing-nhl-star-johnny-gaudreau-brother-will-spend-at-least-another-week-in-jail.html?e=8658faf1d729ecd196a43ec693bac849&lctg=62d3007ad453ae4f1506cf0b&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=gaudreau-suspect-jail&utm_term=Newsletter_breaking_news

Asshat will be spending years soon enough.

[Nicomo]

25 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

5-6 beers is not a buzz

He was also literally drinking WHILE DRIVING. Throw. Away. The. Key. 

[aylbert]

42 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

You can't really blame players who outperform their contracts though. Are they not entitled to compensation for excelling in their role? I think some teams/GMs understand that, and they are willing to deal with contracts that may look ugly in the future, to make up for paying a guy lower in the past. I know sports are different than most industries, but if you went to work every day making minimum wage and you were the best employee in your company for a few years, you'd want a raise too. 

Obviously paying a guy for "what he will do" is purely speculative because it hasn't happened yet, so sometimes you have to pay a guy for what he's already done. 

I never blame the player for taking what the market will give them.

As a GM though, I would much rather sign players early at a 30%-50%+ discount - risking I am overpaying them - than being saddled with giant UFA contracts where I paying a 30-50%+ premium over what they should be paid for what they can do going forward.    I get you can't let Draisaitl (and McDavid) get to their last year unsigned - but I wouldn't commit the term pushing them that late.  Unpopular as it may be, I would hold the line and explore alternatives.  It's a business.    
 

[Satans Hockey]

27 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

He was also literally drinking WHILE DRIVING. Throw. Away. The. Key. 

This aspect should really get him a longer sentence. Driving while drunk is bad enough, driving while literally drinking and already drunk is a whole other level of disregard for anyone else.