NJDevils1214 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: When you come right down to it, it really feels like more of a "What the hell" kind of trade, than anything else...sure, as @Lateralous pointed out, there's some cap implications involved, and Willman appears to have moved ahead of Thompson, but seems doubtful that either franchise came away with any kind of steal here. Favor to the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2023/11/27/devils-notebook-another-forward-hits-the-shelf/?fbclid=IwAR3qXwB4DoKswyyswMApRcjFu9gVhnQ6sVCc-xcD1Mo3Xf3qstPK7EclzJI_aem_AR5tvBjAWrixKQ1JfcXLxadjGec7MmXw9ZasvsCbKY6pPNFTRSYdpwX25RnpMJ2Ygl8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2023/11/27/devils-notebook-another-forward-hits-the-shelf/?fbclid=IwAR3qXwB4DoKswyyswMApRcjFu9gVhnQ6sVCc-xcD1Mo3Xf3qstPK7EclzJI_aem_AR5tvBjAWrixKQ1JfcXLxadjGec7MmXw9ZasvsCbKY6pPNFTRSYdpwX25RnpMJ2Ygl8 Have we even strung together 5 games without someone getting hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Have we even strung together 5 games without someone getting hurt? Not this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Are we sure he’s alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Are we sure he’s alive? he's doing the hospital circuit with Jack and Luke today so that's promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughesCorporation Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 with our injuries this season before you know it Brendan Smith will be on the first line! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarDew Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, HughesCorporation said: with our injuries this season before you know it Brendan Smith will be on the first line! Scaring me @HughesCorporation 👎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButlerBulldog Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, HughesCorporation said: with our injuries this season before you know it Brendan Smith will be on the first line! I can totally envision the following promo: “Tonight on ESPN, Auston Matthews, Mitch Marner, and the Toronto Maple Leafs face Jack Hughes, Brendan Smith, and the… wait! What?” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HughesCorporation said: with our injuries this season before you know it Brendan Smith will be on the first line! Pretty sure I know what Nico would say right about now…starts with “Shut”…ends with “up”… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughesCorporation Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Pretty sure I know what Nico would say right about now…starts with “Shut”…ends with “up”… the law of averages says we cant keep getting injuries...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, HughesCorporation said: the law of averages says we cant keep getting injuries...right? All kidding aside it feels like after enjoying pretty good injury luck last season, it’s absolutely going the other way. Frustrating but at least both Jack and Nico are back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread Edited November 28, 2023 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2023/11/28/report-devils-looking-around-for-goaltending/ Fitz in the hunt for a goalie (not a breaking news)... I'm tempted by the Askarov solution but it will cost way too much I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Holtz with Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, moustic said: https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2023/11/28/report-devils-looking-around-for-goaltending/ Fitz in the hunt for a goalie (not a breaking news)... I'm tempted by the Askarov solution but it will cost way too much I guess Maybe Fitz does explore adding a goalie at some point, but these articles (and so many of the ones written by competing columnists) are so rarely based on anything truly CONCRETE. It's all pure speculation and guesswork, and writers (many of whom these days have just as little inside information as any of us do) just coming up with their own lists of players who might be a fit. I also hate that these articles have a way of ignoring obvious issues...like the fact that the Devils don't really have the cap room to add anyone remotely expensive in net (unless the plan is to send VV the other way). The two words that stuck out to me are "nothing imminent". For now it's going to be see if one or both of these guys can again resemble the mostly solid tandem of 2022-23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Maybe Fitz does explore adding a goalie at some point, but these articles (and so many of the ones written by competing columnists) are so rarely based on anything truly CONCRETE. It's all pure speculation and guesswork, and writers (many of whom these days have just as little inside information as any of us do) just coming up with their own lists of players who might be a fit. I also hate that these articles have a way of ignoring obvious issues...like the fact that the Devils don't really have the cap room to add anyone remotely expensive in net (unless the plan is to send VV the other way). The two words that stuck out to me are "nothing imminent". For now it's going to be see if one or both of these guys can again resemble the mostly solid tandem of 2022-23. I'm pretty sure if something could make it work, Fitz will do a trade immediatly. We can't have a chance this year with these goalies. Yes problems with our defense i agree... Yes one had a pretty decent season (and i wish we could keep VV as a backup) ... and yes, the other one got one amazing serie against Rangers (it seems that gave him a pass but hey.. fans are gonna be fans) but at some point they are nowhere near stealing us some games THIS season. Perfect scenario would be to send Akira to AHL (for at least the rest of the season) and having VV as a backup but yeah salary will be a problem, it's true ! I'm certain that Fitz is someone would find a way to bring a goalie with our salary structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Maybe Fitz does explore adding a goalie at some point, but these articles (and so many of the ones written by competing columnists) are so rarely based on anything truly CONCRETE. It's all pure speculation and guesswork, and writers (many of whom these days have just as little inside information as any of us do) just coming up with their own lists of players who might be a fit. I also hate that these articles have a way of ignoring obvious issues...like the fact that the Devils don't really have the cap room to add anyone remotely expensive in net (unless the plan is to send VV the other way). The two words that stuck out to me are "nothing imminent". For now it's going to be see if one or both of these guys can again resemble the mostly solid tandem of 2022-23. This stuff is stupid. These are non-articles. Devils need goalie-->need article topic-->write article/tweet that Devils are looking for a goalie because they must be. "Sources say they've made phone calls" In reality, Fitz only called to wish a dude happy birthday or something. Thank God I don't root for Toronto, where a player can't sneeze without a speculative BS article written about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, moustic said: I'm pretty sure if something could make it work, Fitz will do a trade immediatly. We can't have a chance this year with these goalies. Yes problems with our defense i agree... Yes one had a pretty decent season (and i wish we could keep VV as a backup) ... and yes, the other one got one amazing serie against Rangers (it seems that gave him a pass but hey.. fans are gonna be fans) but at some point they are nowhere near stealing us some games THIS season. Perfect scenario would be to send Akira to AHL (for at least the rest of the season) and having VV as a backup but yeah salary will be a problem, it's true ! I'm certain that Fitz is someone would find a way to bring a goalie with our salary structure. It wasn't just the Rangers series, re: Schmid...he did put up a .922 save% in the regular season last year (I get it, you kinda got it out for him). And two brief slumps (5 games each) dragged down VV's overall year...most of the season he was stopping well over 92% of the shots coming his way. I'm not saying that they're locks to do this again, but at the same time, I don't think Fitz is necessarily going to write one or the other off that quickly, especially with their low price tags. I suspect it will take another 3-4 weeks of sub-.900 save% goaltending before Fitz really heats up the search (and considers doing the cap gymnastics that will come with trying to acquire a potential upgrade). 3 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: This stuff is stupid. These are non-articles. Devils need goalie-->need article topic-->write article/tweet that Devils are looking for a goalie because they must be. "Sources say they've made phone calls" In reality, Fitz only called to wish a dude happy birthday or something. Thank God I don't root for Toronto, where a player can't sneeze without a speculative BS article written about it. Yeah this post pretty much nails it. Neverson used to propose trades that were clearly HIS idea...all of them were beyond laughable. Think he once made it sound like Sykora AND Elias for Nieuwendyk was very close to happening heh heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: It wasn't just the Rangers series, re: Schmid...he did put up a .922 save% in the regular season last year (I get it, you kinda got it out for him). And two brief slumps (5 games each) dragged down VV's overall year...most of the season he was stopping well over 92% of the shots coming his way. I'm not saying that they're locks to do this again, but at the same time, I don't think Fitz is necessarily going to write one or the other off that quickly, especially with their low price tags. I suspect it will take another 3-4 weeks of sub-.900 save% goaltending before Fitz really heats up the search (and considers doing the cap gymnastics that will come with trying to acquire a potential upgrade). 3 or 4 more weeks of that level and no (at the very least) some thinking from Fitz to change the situation will show that our GM is not the right guy for this job.. And our GM is the right guy for this job i think ; ) I have no idea if this article got some solid journalistic backup... but smoke, fire .. all that. Unless we are changing our trend, goal against will be a real issue to reach playoff (and not even talking about winning some series). And we all know that the first real movement will not be in the forward group and like it or not but Ruff will be our coach this season. So change could only happen in D or Goalie ... I'm very much into bringing a badass in our lineup to bolt our defense (Zadorov ?) but one can said that bringing a big defenseman will block the arrival of one of our current prospect... While we have close to nothing in goalie (there is always hope in prospect but let's just say that we don't have a top prospect there yet) and if Akira is our best young player ... That's scary ! I'm not panicking and wanna make a move for a move... I always was (and still am) a big VV fan but let's face it, he is a really good backup. While, yes, i have zero faith in Akira to be the next guy. I will have no problem admiting that i was dead wrong about this ! I would love to admit this ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Oh and i have no idea if this rumor are any close of legit but hey... It's always fun to discuss about it no ? Especially when it makes sense (and Salary cap will always be manageable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, moustic said: 3 or 4 more weeks of that level and no (at the very least) some thinking from Fitz to change the situation will show that our GM is not the right guy for this job.. And our GM is the right guy for this job i think ; ) I have no idea if this article got some solid journalistic backup... but smoke, fire .. all that. Unless we are changing our trend, goal against will be a real issue to reach playoff (and not even talking about winning some series). And we all know that the first real movement will not be in the forward group and like it or not but Ruff will be our coach this season. So change could only happen in D or Goalie ... I'm very much into bringing a badass in our lineup to bolt our defense (Zadorov ?) but one can said that bringing a big defenseman will block the arrival of one of our current prospect... While we have close to nothing in goalie (there is always hope in prospect but let's just say that we don't have a top prospect there yet) and if Akira is our best young player ... That's scary ! I'm not panicking and wanna make a move for a move... I always was (and still am) a big VV fan but let's face it, he is a really good backup. While, yes, i have zero faith in Akira to be the next guy. I will have no problem admiting that i was dead wrong about this ! I would love to admit this ! When I think pure backup, I think a guy who's starting 25-30 games. VV's better than that...more like a 1B. He did show that he can be a solid 1A-type last season, but obviously that might have been his career year...especially with the three extended stretches of .925 or better save%s. I think these past two games only allowing four goals total has bought everyone involved a little time...especially in goal and on D. I've mentioned it but the only guy who would probably be moved for a vet right now would be Bahl...and that's not an indictment on Bahl, as much as it is that I can't see Dougie, Marino, Siegs, Luke, or Miller being moved (with Miller working so well with Luke, why fvck with THAT?). Siegs hasn't been good so far this season but can't see anyone eager to take on five years (even though his hit is reasonable). I mention Bahl because he's young, cheap, big, and signed through next season. Package him with someone else and maybe if Fitz decides to go for one of Calgary's vets, he'll be able to make it happen. 28 minutes ago, moustic said: Oh and i have no idea if this rumor are any close of legit but hey... It's always fun to discuss about it no ? Especially when it makes sense (and Salary cap will always be manageable) My beef is more that these writers take the most innocuous quotes and try to make it sound like there's much more going on than there actually is. Fans on this site spitting out trade proposals and wondering aloud who Fitz might be able to nab is one thing...we know that we we're just speculating, strictly as fans, with no inside dope. But now you have SO many sportswriters and prognosticators all trying to get attention, so every little "scoop" just gets blown up constantly. It's to the point that I just want to see the move made, and then react to THAT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Maybe Fitz does explore adding a goalie at some point, but these articles (and so many of the ones written by competing columnists) are so rarely based on anything truly CONCRETE. It's all pure speculation and guesswork, and writers (many of whom these days have just as little inside information as any of us do) just coming up with their own lists of players who might be a fit. I also hate that these articles have a way of ignoring obvious issues...like the fact that the Devils don't really have the cap room to add anyone remotely expensive in net (unless the plan is to send VV the other way). The two words that stuck out to me are "nothing imminent". For now it's going to be see if one or both of these guys can again resemble the mostly solid tandem of 2022-23. Fair enough. But you are cherry-picking by giving credence to the "nothing imminent" report, while suggesting the writer and the analysts he cites really don't know anything with respect to everything else in the article. If your position is that the reports are based on nothing concrete, ok -- but if true it necessarily applies to everything, as there is no basis for distinguishing those parts of the piece. It simply isn't possible for the sources to know with certainty that something they don't really know anything about won't happen soon. Edited November 29, 2023 by smelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 16,091 tonight - Only the second non-sellout thus far (both being only a few hundred short on weeknight games vs unsexy teams). Really great crowds we’ve been getting through the historically-rough opening months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Schmid’s last 5 games (*3 starts) NYI - 1.00 *CBJ - .929 *WPG - .833 WSH - .952 *STL - .939 Outside of WPG, who always kill the Devils, I don’t know what else you can ask for out of the kid. Give him the net at this point. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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