2024 Offseason Thread - It’s FINALLY here

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[RizzMB30]

18 hours ago, woody footbreaker said:

i apologize for bringing the mcgroarty/casey deal up in the tatar thread. thought i was here when posting, but went to the other thread to read reactions on the tatar signing sry.

the thing is, what to do with casey? his stock seems high right now and i dont see a path within the next year or so to join the big club and to overcook him down there doesnt make sense for both parties involved. also silayev will probably here in 2yrs and join the big club right away, if everything goes well as expected. i doubt the devils bring in two young guys on the backend at the same time when they should be contenders then.

looking ahead a year or two, we will need to replace haula at center and we already are one injury away at the position to be in trouble. centers can easily be played at wing too and if we get one, haula probably will play wing again. thats why i think we should use casey now in a trade to bring in a young centerman which projects to be our 3rd c at worst maybe higher or you play him wing until someone gets injured. the bottom teams have a lot of young talents, others have enough center depth on their roster already. there should be a tradepartner which would like to add a talented offensive d man, willing to send an equaly talented c the other way.

from the current rfa class veleno would be a cheap good option, hayton more expensive but its utah so there might be a path, maybe krebs as buy low option but he is not the biggest guy.

1)  They are both LHD. I don't see why you would keep Casey over big boi. Silayev's timeline for the NHL lines up nearly perfectly with Dillion's 4 year contract and to (hopefully) come to the NHL by then. I like where you're thinking with Haula, but I think he has earned the right to play out this contract and we have to ask him to move by the end, that's okay too.

2) Yes, he can play wing, but that would ultimate move Palat on that line if you brought in a new 3C. I guess all I'm saying is that making the move right now would force one or both of Palat and Haula into the top six. Ideally, we want to push players down, not up the lineup. It definitely should be something to consider and look at maybe 2 years down the line depending on where Casey is at. Fitz is right that the AHL is a tough league. He can take a year to get settled in, but needs to start dominating it fairly quickly to maintain most of his value. That all being said, you could move Haula and Casey at that time with reduced value that player too. If Casey is the player we think he is, he'll establish himself as a minute muncher and learn the defensive speed of the game. 

3) Fraser Minten comes to mind and Krebs would be interesting. They've almost exclusively have been fourth liners so far in their careers but probably top out as 3Cs somewhere. I think Toronto envisions Minten as their future 3C. Doesn't top out as much, but that's the point, you can get a cheap 3C out of development. 
 

9 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

According to NHLNewNumbers on Twitter 

5 - Dillon

8 - Kovacevic

11 - Noesen

22 - Pesce

47 - Cotter

Oh man....he's gonna bring back such Whitey vibes. I'm sure Pesce will win me over with a few solid defensive stops within the first 10 games. Needs to look like Marino 2022-23. I need to be wow'ed. lol

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

5 hours ago, RizzMB30 said:

1)  They are both LHD. I don't see why you would keep Casey over big boi. Silayev's timeline for the NHL lines up nearly perfectly with Dillion's 4 year contract and to (hopefully) come to the NHL by then. I like where you're thinking with Haula, but I think he has earned the right to play out this contract and we have to ask him to move by the end, that's okay too.

2) Yes, he can play wing, but that would ultimate move Palat on that line if you brought in a new 3C. I guess all I'm saying is that making the move right now would force one or both of Palat and Haula into the top six. Ideally, we want to push players down, not up the lineup. It definitely should be something to consider and look at maybe 2 years down the line depending on where Casey is at. Fitz is right that the AHL is a tough league. He can take a year to get settled in, but needs to start dominating it fairly quickly to maintain most of his value. That all being said, you could move Haula and Casey at that time with reduced value that player too. If Casey is the player we think he is, he'll establish himself as a minute muncher and learn the defensive speed of the game. 

3) Fraser Minten comes to mind and Krebs would be interesting. They've almost exclusively have been fourth liners so far in their careers but probably top out as 3Cs somewhere. I think Toronto envisions Minten as their future 3C. Doesn't top out as much, but that's the point, you can get a cheap 3C out of development. 
 

Oh man....he's gonna bring back such Whitey vibes. I'm sure Pesce will win me over with a few solid defensive stops within the first 10 games. Needs to look like Marino 2022-23. I need to be wow'ed. lol

Casey’s a RHD.  Sounds like Fitz would like to hang onto him as an eventual replacement for Hamilton, at which point Casey, Nemec, and Pesce will be the Devils’ RHD.  But I still like the idea of a Casey for McGroarty deal, if Fitz were ever to consider it.

[MadDog2020]

 

[MadDog2020]

 

[woody footbreaker]

8 hours ago, RizzMB30 said:

1)  They are both LHD. I don't see why you would keep Casey over big boi. Silayev's timeline for the NHL lines up nearly perfectly with Dillion's 4 year contract and to (hopefully) come to the NHL by then. I like where you're thinking with Haula, but I think he has earned the right to play out this contract and we have to ask him to move by the end, that's okay too.

Dillon signed for 3yrs, but doesnt matter cause i think silayev will be with the devils by then. and yes, i think haula will play out his contract here. by the time someone takes that 3c, he will convert to wing in our bottom6 or become the 4th line center which would be good too.

2) Yes, he can play wing, but that would ultimate move Palat on that line if you brought in a new 3C. I guess all I'm saying is that making the move right now would force one or both of Palat and Haula into the top six. Ideally, we want to push players down, not up the lineup. It definitely should be something to consider and look at maybe 2 years down the line depending on where Casey is at. Fitz is right that the AHL is a tough league. He can take a year to get settled in, but needs to start dominating it fairly quickly to maintain most of his value. That all being said, you could move Haula and Casey at that time with reduced value that player too. If Casey is the player we think he is, he'll establish himself as a minute muncher and learn the defensive speed of the game. 

i dont think casey is a sure thing right now mainly because of his size, but of course has a good chance. we have two young offensive D in luke and simon ahead of him right now and a lot of his potential would be as qb on one the pp units. thats why i would use him right now to trade for a c which we obviously lack. in general i think the devils should focus to upgrade c instead bringing in another scoring wing for jack. Mcgroarty could still end up playing wing and thats probably how you bring him in anyway, most probalby see him more of a wing anyway.

3) Fraser Minten comes to mind and Krebs would be interesting. They've almost exclusively have been fourth liners so far in their careers but probably top out as 3Cs somewhere. I think Toronto envisions Minten as their future 3C. Doesn't top out as much, but that's the point, you can get a cheap 3C out of development. 

minten is a good one, he impressed under keefe last training camp, there basically just wasnt an open spot for him. the leafs could use a future pp prospect for sure. listed 6´2" is a good start and thats why i am not sure krebs would be the right fit or drafting helenius therefore. we need at least one c that size behind nico and jack. i would be curious what sheldon would think of that idea. like i said, there must be teams with center depth close to make to jump. i also realized after lindholm signing with the bruins, the have him, coyle, zacha, geekie, beecher and poitras. geekie and beecher also have that size

 

 

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[RunninWithTheDevil]

 

 

[MadDog2020]

5 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

 

Kid has a great attitude 

[nessus]

I didn't hear much about development camp this year. Here's a video that was put together with some clips:

 

Silayev is #52

Casey #72

There's another giant out there, Jackson van de Leest, #81

Nothing too spectacular, but you can tell Silayev is very good.

[StarDew]

1 hour ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

 

Paywall.  😢  Will someone  summarize  please 🙏 

[NJDevils1214]

48 minutes ago, StarDew said:

Paywall.  😢  Will someone  summarize  please 🙏 

Casey wants to make the NHL but he'd be happy to make Utica and understands that's likely right now. Knows it won't be easy either way. Understands that he's down the depth chart.

[MadDog2020]

 

[njbuff]

10 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

 

NOW I’m convinced the Devils will be the 2024-25 SCC. 😁😁

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

13 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Casey wants to make the NHL but he'd be happy to make Utica and understands that's likely right now. Knows it won't be easy either way. Understands that he's down the depth chart.

He came off really well in that article.  Has a great attitude and outlook.  

[MadDog2020]

 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

On 7/4/2024 at 3:30 PM, Devil Dan 56 said:

According to NHLNewNumbers on Twitter 

5 - Dillon

8 - Kovacevic

11 - Noesen

22 - Pesce

47 - Cotter

@MadDog2020 Based on the two numbers you just posted, looks like what @Devil Dan 56 posted from NHLNewNumbers is accurate.

[MadDog2020]

43 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

@MadDog2020 Based on the two numbers you just posted, looks like what @Devil Dan 56 posted from NHLNewNumbers is accurate.

Here are the rest 

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[devlman]

6 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

 

 

Palat absolutely cannot end up being Jack’s winger. That’s inexcusable at this point not to give this prodigal talent someone who can finish. Fitz still has to figure that out. 

[Muevelos]

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-and-apmc-pioneer-game-changing-victory-sports-network-070824

 

Believe the Knights and Kraken did something similar. Let's get the devils on this too

[MadDog2020]

13 minutes ago, Muevelos said:

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-and-apmc-pioneer-game-changing-victory-sports-network-070824

 

Believe the Knights and Kraken did something similar. Let's get the devils on this too

The Devils just re-upped with MSG, so that ain’t happening anytime soon.

Edited July 9 by MadDog2020

[vincois]

On 7/6/2024 at 11:05 PM, MadDog2020 said:

 

Jack will teach him a few skating "tips".  

[Crisis]

1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

The Devils just re-upped with MSG, so that ain’t happening anytime soon.

Yeah isn't MSG owned by Cablevision?  I cannot imagine they would ever move to a free broadcast model.  The Devils would need to bounce from that contract and I also just don't see that happening.

[RizzMB30]

2 hours ago, devlman said:

Palat absolutely cannot end up being Jack’s winger. That’s inexcusable at this point not to give this prodigal talent someone who can finish. Fitz still has to figure that out. 

Barring some offseason training miracle. I can't imagine Palat ends up on Hughes wing. 

It's one of the "IFs" that CR76 was talking about. IF Palat can return to some kind of form this season. Fitz's answer has been Tatar. Barring some young player grabbing a spot and surprising, we are looking at 1 of Palat or Tatar in the top 6. It's a nonzero probability that there will be a surprise at training camp.