RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Bettman starts out by apologizing to the fans. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwindog Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 DOne! OK! Have a nice summer all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Well, that's it. He said the magic words. No season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Goodenow and Bettman should be fired now. No sense for them to keep their jobs if his league and his players are not playing. Get those mother FVCKERS out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Was that Fischler who got the first question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Yes it was, so much for the "ban". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyNice Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 LET'S GO YANKEES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Let the blame game start. First salvo to Bettman. Goodenow replies later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeps Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 You know what the worst part is? Everybody's saying they were squabbling over $6.5 million. It was LESS than that. Including bonuses, the NHL offer totaled $44.7 million, while the PA offer, including bonuses, totaled $49 million. That's $4.3 million. Or less than 10% of either proposal. I've been staunchly pro-owner this entire time, but the fact Bettman would not accept the PA's last proposal is absolutely ludicrous. And to suggest that every team would spend the max cap when 3/5 of the teams would be under it? FVCK OFF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Bettman just said that the no-linkage cap is off the table. Back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Sheeps, not that simple. The players 49 could go higher than that for 2 of the six seasons. I agree that not every team would hit the cap but I think the majority would. I think that other than the 5-6 trouble franchises, the rest would hit the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 now both sides lose, the the NHL loses teams, the cap will be very low bettman is scum, he's destroyed the game of hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeps Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Sheeps, not that simple. The players 49 could go higher than that for 2 of the six seasons.I agree that not every team would hit the cap but I think the majority would. I think that other than the 5-6 trouble franchises, the rest would hit the cap. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Would a team really want to pay 150% in luxury taxes? Maybe, but let them, they'd only be allowed to do it twice. The last PA deal is fair enough to not cancel the season. Is it ideal? No. But Bettman is thinking wrong - he claims the PA deal will hurt the NHL. But cancelling an entire SEASON will hurt the NHL far more than the PA deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 now both sides lose, the the NHL loses teams, the cap will be very lowbettman is scum, he's destroyed the game of hockey <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...........sigh........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Bettman just said that the no-linkage cap is off the table. Back to square one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ass-fvcking-hole. Why do that?? Why? Bettman should be on the streets, Along with Goodenow! FVCKING NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Bettman is so clueless, he still doesn't understand the ramifications of what he's done. The guy leading the owners is the same guy that proposed widening the nets and put hockey in Nashville. They're following this clown, at least 8 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 We'll hear the tripe from both sides but please stop apologizing to the fans and the other workers. You and the PA don't care. You just don't so stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsFans Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 "Owneres would have lost money with NHLPA accepting last offer, Owners didn't know that!" BS Bettman is an idiot, he did not ask my opinion about whats going on! I want hockey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 he said owners would have lost money even at 42.5? is that what he said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 When asked about the draft, he said it hasn't been addressed yet, that they have to get the other issues resolved before they thought about the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeps Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 The one thing I give Bettman credit for is his understanding that hockey is not one of the four major sports. The players don't understand that. What Bettman doesn't understand is that a cap is a MAXIMUM, not a MINIMUM. First of all, 3/5 of teams would be under it already. Second, teams (like the Devils) have spent incresingly more over the years to keep up with higher payroll teams. Now, if teams can no longer achieve such higher payrolls, teams like the Devils would still be spending in the mid to upper 30's. When the top comes down, so does the middle, and so does the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 "There's no animosity with the union. I don't understand why they do some of the things they do, but I have to believe they they're doing what they think is right, and I respect that." (paraphrased) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyNice Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 I am going on record right now as saying I am done. I am on the players side but I have had enough with both of them. That they could not bridge a few million dollars to save the season makes me ill. It is a big F U to the fans from both sides. My ire grows listening to Bettman sounding certain that fans will come back. The ego drives me nuts. Just ask Selig what happened in baseball. I still love hockey. I will continue to follow the Sound Tigers but my days of buying NHL tickets and Center Ice are over. They have shown they don't care about me and I will now show that I do not care about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Well, Brooks finally made himself heard. Lame question: "Why was there no Board of Governors' meeting?" Answer: "We didn't need one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsadvoc8 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Well, Brooks finally made himself heard. Lame question: "Why was there no Board of Governors' meeting?" Answer: "We didn't need one." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Will he ask the PA if a vote was held? Methinks not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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