SC Devs Fan Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 I'm sorry. If it is a hot dog you are hankering for then leave 30 minutes early and go to Rutts Hut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Hellh0und Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Start here: http://maps.google.com/maps?near=50+State+....04077&om=1 then hit "2" "3" "4" etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptynet Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) It's an easy cheap shot...that's all it is. A quick article for a hack who cant find anything else to write about. Edited April 11, 2007 by emptynet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) How come we never see these attendence hit pieces on the Islanders: Average 2006-2007 12,520 I'm not sure if Newsday runs articles about the Islanders attendence issues, maybe they do who knows. I think the Devils attendence issue is talked about more because of the tremedous success of the franchise, where as the Islanders have been decent, but nowhere near NJ. Also, while Lou is a blessing for NJ Devils fans, when it comes to attendence, his style, as well as the strategies of the organization, might be a detriment to attendance.. The Devils emphasize winning, team concepts, and generally, at least IMO, are not as aggressive or creative with marketing their team as they should be. Why? Because Lou cares about winning above all else. So in closing, it is a little give and take...take the winning, sacrifice marketing the team better. Edited April 11, 2007 by LOTCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Hellh0und Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) I'm not sure if Newsday runs articles about the Islanders attendence issues, maybe they do who knows.I think the Devils attendence issue is talked about more because of the tremedous success of the franchise, where as the Islanders have been decent, but nowhere near NJ Possibly.... But do we need almost weekly articles on it? And wouldn't a respectable journalist look at the other teams in the area to make a comparison? I mean it took me all of 2 seconds to form the idea and google "nhl attendence". Or would a comparison to the Islanders worse attendence be counter productive to the agenda of the so called "journalist". It has long ceased to be "news". Also, while Lou is a blessing for NJ Devils fans, when it comes to attendence, his style, as well as the strategies of the organization, might be a detriment to attendance.. The Devils emphasize winning, team concepts, and generally, at least IMO, are not as aggressive or creative with marketing their team as they should be. Why? Because Lou cares about winning above all else. Isn't there a whole new marketing group involved with the new arena? You are correct about Lou. Edited April 11, 2007 by Hellhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 On the flip side who are you to decide what is slight or not? Gulitti probably looked at the whole arena's price structure and not just the 1 ticket that increased the most percentage wise.Edit: On a good note that means more space for me and less hassle due to poor roads, construction, and only 1 concourse. You're proving my point essentially. Why does there have to be an adjective. Why couldn't he have just wrote: "Tickets range from 45 to 95 dollars. This is an increase during the regular season where they ranged from 20-90." Sounds a bit more objective if you ask me. Let the people decide what is a "slight" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) Possibly.... But do we need almost weekly articles on it? And wouldn't a respectable journalist look at the other teams in the area to make a comparison? I mean it took me all of 2 seconds to form the idea and google "nhl attendence". Or would a comparison to the Islanders worse attendence be counter productive to the agenda of the so called "journalist".It has long ceased to be "news". I understand your frustrations. I see the same thing when it comes to Buffalo sports...its easy to pile in the Bills or the city of Buffalo for being 'losers' without really doing research on the issue. Like the Toronto newspapers, calling the Sabres a 'hapless' organization. Why, because we had one owner who was crooked and ran the team to the ground? The Sabres have made the playoffs 27 of 36 years, and their overall lifetime record is WELL over .500. But yet Toronto is not 'hapless?' Please! I called it lazy journalism, hearing what topics is 'hot' and just running with it, without thoroughly researching the issue and then forumlating an opinion. Some members of the media are sheep, they will read one story, and follow along blindly and just write an article to fill space, probably because their employer wants something and will take anything from the writer, as long as it fills the paper or the website. The Devils attendance issue is an eye opener, and yes, it is a problem. THIS year however, from what I understand, the parking issue at the arena is a nightmare, at leat from what I heard. And I am sure that keeps some fans away. Also, the tickets for Devils games are MUCH too high, I do agree with a thread that was started here on this subject. And maybe some Devils fans have just become numb to this team, much like the Atlanta Braves fans did with their team (Only the Devils win more titles) and Devils fans took the teams success for granted, and because of the high ticket prices, in turn just decide wait things out and then spend the $ when the fan deems it worthy to shelve out the $ for the tickets. Edited April 11, 2007 by LOTCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Hellh0und Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I hear ya LOTCB. Trust me when I say the state of the current arena and the surrounding CONSTRUCTION site is atrocious. I don't blame the casual fan from avoiding it at this point. I also think the new arenas pricing spread will help attract more fans., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Apples and oranges. We have won 3 Cups in the last few years and again are one of the better teams in the NHL, we should have the fan base that should sell out a playoff game. The Isles, well, they've sucked so I excuse their fans for not showing up or being convinced they have turned any kind of corner. it's the other way around. The Islanders haven't won a playoff series since Kurt Cobain died - they are going to pack the building because the playoffs are rare out on the Island. New Jersey has missed the playoffs once in the last 15 years. The first round just doesn't mean what it used to - and our building is terrible. I could go - I choose not to. It depresses me to hear a half-filled arena. I'll go if there's a Game 7 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOTCB Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 it's the other way around. The Islanders haven't won a playoff series since Kurt Cobain died - they are going to pack the building because the playoffs are rare out on the Island.New Jersey has missed the playoffs once in the last 15 years. The first round just doesn't mean what it used to - and our building is terrible. I could go - I choose not to. It depresses me to hear a half-filled arena. I'll go if there's a Game 7 though. Plus, Id be willing to bet there will be a Sabres fan invasion on Uniondale for Games 3 and 4. Bank on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0lemi Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 There's a discount for the first two games, $45s for the $60 seats that i just posted in the marketplace. It's still a markup but not as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 it's the other way around. The Islanders haven't won a playoff series since Kurt Cobain died - they are going to pack the building because the playoffs are rare out on the Island.New Jersey has missed the playoffs once in the last 15 years. The first round just doesn't mean what it used to - and our building is terrible. I could go - I choose not to. It depresses me to hear a half-filled arena. I'll go if there's a Game 7 though. ^^ whs I was just too lazy to type it all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriesenKris Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) We have a partial plan during the regular season but did not buy playoff tickets for rounds one and two. I got one email reminder when the pyament was due but I did not get anymore notification including the email mentioned in Gulitti's article. I guess he was referring to full season ticket holders. Edited April 11, 2007 by FriesenKris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Bahhh... There is tons of stuff in the area.... Waterfront Cafe? Or more seriously up and down harmon meadow bvld or whatever that is called in seacaucus,..... There are like 10 resturaunts there. or up on 17? I can think of plenty of places that are better than a turnpike hotdog. I meant in regards to a real city, where you sit down have a few pints and have some good food within walking distance to the arena. The CAA is in the middle of NOWHERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) I meant in regards to a real city, where you sit down have a few pints and have some good food within walking distance to the arena. The CAA is in the middle of NOWHERE. Edited April 11, 2007 by HellOnICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Isn't there a whole new marketing group involved with the new arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Yes, there most certainly is. And the arena is getting plenty of press. I know that demand for season tickets is high and they expect to have more season tickets then they ever had at CAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I don't want to turn this into a Newark thing, but I can't see a sustainable attendance with $115 seats behind the nets. I hope I am wrong. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizDevil30 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 With the discount I think I can afford to go, the problem is do I do a lottery to decide which of my four kids can accompany me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I'm a partial plan ticket holder and have gotten those discount ticket offers all year long, but not the playoff one. The Devils should just swallow their pride and put a full page ad in the papers tomorrow saying show up in Devils gear and get a $60 seat for $45. Have someone sponsor it so it makes it look like that company is responsible for the deal. I'm just glad I have a plan and paid $35 for my tickets, otherwise I'd be pretty PO'ed that people paid the same price as me and are sitting 20 rows lower. Anyway, it's gonna be more embarrasing when this deal maybe puts 100 more people in the seats and then we get ripped because they had discount tickets and still couldn't fill the place. Meanwhile, it's like this deal is a secret and nobody knows where it came from, but that won't be mentioned. Don't expect this to get any better if we advance and play Ottawa in the 2nd round. We couldn't fill the building in 2003 for the Conference Finals against them, although the cheapest seats for that were $75. As for the Islanders, you can bank on tons of Sabres fans coming down for those games. Someone on hfboards said they have several busloads coming down because they can't get tickets in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Hellh0und Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I meant in regards to a real city, where you sit down have a few pints and have some good food within walking distance to the arena. The CAA is in the middle of NOWHERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizDevil30 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Meanwhile, it's like this deal is a secret and nobody knows where it came from, but that won't be mentioned. Don't expect this to get any better if we advance and play Ottawa in the 2nd round. We couldn't fill the building in 2003 for the Conference Finals against them, although the cheapest seats for that were $75. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Devs Fan Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 P.S. To addend my prior post, we aren't that poor, it's just the cost of taking a family anywhere is freaking expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Even $45 isn't enough, considering it costs $12 just to get into the parking lot. They're going to have to go down to $30-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Even $45 isn't enough, considering it costs $12 just to get into the parking lot. They're going to have to go down to $30-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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