Jimmy Leeds Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Christmas is a FEDERAL holiday because of our Christian heritage. Hanukkah was not one of the more important holidays if what my Jewish friends tell me is true. But since Christmas had a stranglehold on the winter time, Hanukkah then became more and more of a "Holiday", to compete with Christmas. Kwanzaa........who the hell even knows what that is. Now my 6 year old comes home with their school "Holiday" writings.....about Hanukah, Kwanzaa, Christmas, and Los Cuevos Del Sol, or whatever it is they call it in the United Sta..........errrrr........Mexico. Next year they will be writing about the great Muslim celebrations the Asbury Park Press writes about right around Christmas times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOULAM1 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 I'm from neither of those places...how can I go back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOULAM1 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Next year they will be writing about the great Muslim celebrations the Asbury Park Press writes about right around Christmas times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona Ryder Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Christmas is a FEDERAL holiday because of our Christian heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Right, and all that means is that government workers get a day off and those that work get double pay. There's no requirement that private businesses be closed and give their workers a day off. Certainly not a NATIONAL holiday as suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona Ryder Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 BTW, you're HOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Christ means nothing to me. The fact that that likely makes me a bad person in your eyes is what is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyNice Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) It is one of my many hopes in life to see Christmas lose its status as a Federal holiday. There is no reason for it. We have a secular government for a reason. To borrow a line from LouLam1, if you want a religious government move to Saudi Arabia. Among other things I want to live to see: - New Jersey taking away Good Friday as a state holiday - US Mail to resume Sunday delivery The fact is that the whole idea that the founding fathers were devout Christians and intended for this country to reflect that has no basis in reality. It is merely a ploy used by the religious right to try to rationalize their beliefs. The founding fathers were by and large Deists who went out of their way to avoid mixing religion into their government. ETA: When you receive your Xmas present just ship it right back HEATHEN ! Edited December 28, 2007 by PeteyNice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona Ryder Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 When you receive your Xmas present just ship it right back HEATHEN ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 How do you know this person got "Xmas presents"? How do you know the presents weren't in celebration of Saturnalia or Natalis Solis Invicti or one of the other non-religious festivals that the Christians coopted when they invented Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltab213 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 It is one of my many hopes in life to see Christmas lose its status as a Federal holiday. There is no reason for it. We have a secular government for a reason. To borrow a line from LouLam1, if you want a religious government move to Saudi Arabia. Among other things I want to live to see: - New Jersey taking away Good Friday as a state holiday - US Mail to resume Sunday delivery The fact is that the whole idea that the founding fathers were devout Christians and intended for this country to reflect that has no basis in reality. It is merely a ploy used by the religious right to try to rationalize their beliefs. The founding fathers were by and large Deists who went out of their way to avoid mixing religion into their government. ETA: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyFan42 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 - US Mail to resume Sunday delivery Never gonna happen. Costs too much. I wouldn't be surprised to see Saturday delivery eliminated during our lifetimes for the same reason. -I would like to see the days of the week renamed, since they are named after gods. The government uses these names everday, and we cant have the government being invaded with religious symbols or names. -The removal of Martin Luther King day as a federal holiday, since much of what he preached was filled with religious belief. We cant celebrate a man whos life revolved around religion. -New Years Eve removed as a federal holiday. It celebrates the beginning of the Gregorian Calendar year. A calendar which was devised by a pope. -Thanksgiving should no longer be a federal holiday, as it was originally celebrated as a day of thanksgiving to God. -Columbus Day should be removed as well. Columbus spread Catholicism throughout the new world, and should not be celebrated because of that fact. -Independence Day, in fact, the Declaration of Independence itself, should not be celebrated as it notes that humans are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," along with other references to God. Again, we shouldnt celebrate a document, or its declaration, when it proclaims that a God exists. There are more things I would like to see, but it would take too long to list them all. My sarcasm meter just exploded. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature's Minister Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) -I would like to see the days of the week renamed, since they are named after gods. The government uses these names everday, and we cant have the government being invaded with religious symbols or names. -The removal of Martin Luther King day as a federal holiday, since much of what he preached was filled with religious belief. We cant celebrate a man whos life revolved around religion. -New Years Eve removed as a federal holiday. It celebrates the beginning of the Gregorian Calendar year. A calendar which was devised by a pope. -Thanksgiving should no longer be a federal holiday, as it was originally celebrated as a day of thanksgiving to God. -Columbus Day should be removed as well. Columbus spread Catholicism throughout the new world, and should not be celebrated because of that fact. -Independence Day, in fact, the Declaration of Independence itself, should not be celebrated as it notes that humans are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," along with other references to God. Again, we shouldnt celebrate a document, or its declaration, when it proclaims that a God exists. There are more things I would like to see, but it would take too long to list them all. Edited December 28, 2007 by Nature's Minister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Petey just proved how waaaaaayyyyyy out there he is. The founding fathers did not "make clear" the separation of church and state, that is what the left has you believe. The state that there should be no federal/state based religion (I'm paraphrasing). Now I'm on my way to New York to see the CHRISTMAS Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) Petey just proved how waaaaaayyyyyy out there he is.The founding fathers did not "make clear" the separation of church and state, that is what the left has you believe. The state that there should be no federal/state based religion (I'm paraphrasing). Now I'm on my way to New York to see the CHRISTMAS Tree Edited December 28, 2007 by MantaRay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Your an agnostic and a minority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Honestly if you're that sure of your faith, you shouldn't be worried that a lack of propaganda (Which I can assure you, is a figment of your imagination) is 'killing' Christmas. As long as Nintendo keeps making video games, Christmas is safe. You'd think turning water into wine or whatever would be reason enough to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 And you prove you have no idea of your own country's history. I know that you hate the document, but please read the Constitution:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) -I would like to see the days of the week renamed, since they are named after gods. The government uses these names everday, and we cant have the government being invaded with religious symbols or names. -The removal of Martin Luther King day as a federal holiday, since much of what he preached was filled with religious belief. We cant celebrate a man whos life revolved around religion. -New Years Eve removed as a federal holiday. It celebrates the beginning of the Gregorian Calendar year. A calendar which was devised by a pope. -Thanksgiving should no longer be a federal holiday, as it was originally celebrated as a day of thanksgiving to God. -Columbus Day should be removed as well. Columbus spread Catholicism throughout the new world, and should not be celebrated because of that fact. -Independence Day, in fact, the Declaration of Independence itself, should not be celebrated as it notes that humans are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," along with other references to God. Again, we shouldnt celebrate a document, or its declaration, when it proclaims that a God exists. There are more things I would like to see, but it would take too long to list them all. Edited December 28, 2007 by metallidevils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Manta, you should know different people interpret that statement different ways. That definitely says the federal govt can not establish a religion and can not prohibit free exercise of religion but seperation of church and state comes from the writings of some founding fathers. I don't have it all on hand right now but there were differing opinions between founding fathers on that subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteyNice Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I give it a B+. -I would like to see the days of the week renamed, since they are named after gods. The government uses these names everday, and we cant have the government being invaded with religious symbols or names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 -I would like to see the days of the week renamed, since they are named after gods. The government uses these names everday, and we cant have the government being invaded with religious symbols or names. -The removal of Martin Luther King day as a federal holiday, since much of what he preached was filled with religious belief. We cant celebrate a man whos life revolved around religion. -New Years Eve removed as a federal holiday. It celebrates the beginning of the Gregorian Calendar year. A calendar which was devised by a pope. -Thanksgiving should no longer be a federal holiday, as it was originally celebrated as a day of thanksgiving to God. -Columbus Day should be removed as well. Columbus spread Catholicism throughout the new world, and should not be celebrated because of that fact. -Independence Day, in fact, the Declaration of Independence itself, should not be celebrated as it notes that humans are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," along with other references to God. Again, we shouldnt celebrate a document, or its declaration, when it proclaims that a God exists. There are more things I would like to see, but it would take too long to list them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dont forget taking out "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOULAM1 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Ah yes, FEAR THE RUSSIANS! Funny how the same "fear" tactics are just repeated over and over through the years and the same type of people are conned by it.It should be noted that the phrase "under god" in the pledge of allegiance was found to be unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOULAM1 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Charlie Brown Christmas Rules! Edited December 29, 2007 by LOULAM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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