WWE/TNA/ROH - Wrestling Thread

[Beezer34]

You need to remove your head from Dixie Carters ass because you are completely so narrow-minded about TNA being actually this good that it's clouded your mind.

Do you work for TNA or something? Perhaps on their street team? There is nothing saying that Impact is definitely moving to monday nights, you posted a link to kevin nashs twitter which says they could possibly head to monday nights. It hasn't happened yet.

Yes I know nothing about the wrestling industry...btw those same people you mentioned that "know" what they are doing also ran WCW into the ground.

...then DON'T WATCH!

[Satans Hockey]

...then DON'T WATCH!

You really are a waste of space in this thread, again you fail to bring any real argument to the table. I am all for a back and forth argument but all you do is keep waving your pom poms for TNA.

Edited January 7, 2010 by Satans Hockey

[Beezer34]

You really are a waste of space in this thread, again you fail to bring any real argument to the table. I am all for a back and forth argument but all you do is keep waving your pom poms for TNA.

...for someone that "couldn't care less" you just don't stop huh?

[Satans Hockey]

...for someone that "couldn't care less" you just don't stop huh?

What the fvck are you talking about? Do you even read my posts? I've said that even though I like WWE there are dozens of things I hate about them. I've stated that I would like TNA to do well so there would be real competition yet I also don't believe they will. Angle-Styles was an awesome match, there is no question about it. But watching a bunch of old grey haired guys and addicts try to recreate something(that was already recreated in WWE and sucked hard) is pure garbage.

Unlike you I'm not a fanboy of TNA for no reason that thinks everything they do is gold. I can actually review and criticize what I think is good and what is sh!t. You should give it a shot and maybe we can have a real argument about why I think TNA will fail and you think it will dominate in the future

Edited January 7, 2010 by Satans Hockey

[Beezer34]

What the fvck are you talking about? Do you even read my posts? I've said that even though I like WWE there are dozens of things I hate about them. I've stated that I would like TNA to do well so there would be real competition yet I also don't believe they will. Unlike you I'm not a fanboy of TNA for no reason that thinks everything they do is gold.

Stop deviating. You're avoiding the issue on what your claims were, and how they all failed. You said the show sucked.. the show was a complete success. You said the ratings would be horrible.. they were record breaking. You mocked Hulk & Co.. they had the shows peak numbers. You mocked the Monday Night Wars.. and iMPACT! moving to Monday is all but inevitable.

You lost Champ, now take it like a man. This tit-for-tat charade of yours has reached the point of juvenile. Your posts have now deformed to; "Do you read my posts?" -&- calling me a "waste of space." It's sad bro. Your animosity, only further proves my point.

Edited January 7, 2010 by Beezer34

[Satans Hockey]

Homicide brought a crowbar in and went to town on everyone so they tossed the match

then Jeff Hardy came out of the crowd :eyeroll:

Flair is there too.... this is Total Nonstop ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That might have actually entertained me

(god fvcking dammit this company WAS SO CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

Oh, I know. They were going in the right direction with the young talent, then boom, Hogan. Flair. I see looking on some sites that X-Pac is there, too. Way to go, TNA

Yay let's roll out MORE NAMES FOR NO APPARENT REASONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Burn in Hell Terry Bollea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's not been a MATCH in 40 minutes!

Try not to let Andy get too jealous there.

In the middle of the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels thing, I flipped to TNA for two seconds. Saw Eric Bischoff. Done with TNA forever. (Raven's gone from there again, right?)

Val Venis? Really?

Who's next, Doink? Duke Drosee? The Goon? Waylon Mercy?

...

Actually, scratch that, I'd watch for the last two.

Big fat phail.

It's the Knockouts + old-school WCW with a few new touches.

I am trying to fathom how this company will survive when they only have two hours again. They've only had about 30 mins of matches, which were good aside from the Cage Match...but it feels like 2 hrs were spent with an hour and a half of commercials.

I agree but 150 minutes of HORSEsh!t to get there was unacceptable......

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!

[Beezer34]

WOW! And the maturity level has now reached a new low. Taking the point from my post, and throwing it back at me! ?

......what's next, "I know you are, but what am I" slams. -lol.

Bro, do me a favor... keep posting!

Edited January 7, 2010 by Beezer34

[Satans Hockey]

Stop deviating. You're avoiding the issue on what your claims were, and how they all failed. You said the show sucked.. the show was a complete success. You said the ratings would be horrible.. they were record breaking. You mocked Hulk & Co.. they had the shows peak numbers. You mocked the Monday Night Wars.. and iMPACT! moving to Monday is all but inevitable.

You lost Champ, now take it like a man. This tit-for-tat charade of yours has reached the point of juvenile. Your posts have now deformed to; "Do you read my posts?" -&- calling me a "waste of space." It's sad bro. Your animosity, only further proves my point.

Did you see what I did with my last post? It's the same thing you did with your first post on this page. The problem with you is that you see only what you want to see. You also call me juvenile when you post 3 failblog images. You only read the good opinions of TNA and skip right over the negative things they wrote. Was I wrong about the show being a complete failure? Yes but at the same time a 1.5 isn't a huge amazing rating no matter how much you try to make it out to be. Was I wrong about Hulk and Co? It's been one show! They have plenty of time to run the show into the ground and they most likely will. Hulk Hogan only cares about Hulk Hogan.

This isn't about winning a silly argument with you, it's about having good back and forth arguments providing points for success and failure. You are just incapable of doing such a thing.

Edited January 7, 2010 by Satans Hockey

[RSC]

meanwhile the RAW that featured the Hitman has been forgotten.

Really? Beacuse the 3.6 rating seems to show that wrestling fans remembered that it existed. Now, you have seemed to ignored what I am about to repeat again for the fifth time, so I'll put I'll turn caps lock on: I WANT TO LIKE TNA. I do. I want to see a wrestling company that will push the younger talent correctly with no asinine storylines and no [insert item here] on a pole matches every week that Russo loves so much. I would want nothing more than for TNA and Hogan to do what they claim. But all signs point to Hogan being in this for himself.

WOW! And the maturity level has now reached a new low. Taking the point from my post, and throwing it back at me! ?

......what's next, "I know you are, but what am I" slams. -lol.

Bro, do me a favor... keep posting!

You lowered the maturity level whenever SH would try to engage you in a legitimate arguement and you posted "sour grapes" pictures and such EVEN THOUGH HE HAS SAID HE DOESN'T HATE TNA. Reality is a nice thing.

[Beezer34]

OH WAIT A MINUTE! SatansHockey.. I get it.

...the name calling, the back & forth, the "I know you are, but what am I" type posts... you're a last word hound.

It all makes sense now. Oh this IS fun. I haven't run into a parting-shot-mark in a long time.

...let's see how long I can keep you going.

Edited January 7, 2010 by Beezer34

[Beezer34]

Really? Beacuse the 3.6 rating seems to show that wrestling fans remembered that it existed. Now, you have seemed to ignored what I am about to repeat again for the fifth time, so I'll put I'll turn caps lock on: I WANT TO LIKE TNA. I do. I want to see a wrestling company that will push the younger talent correctly with no asinine storylines and no [insert item here] on a pole matches every week that Russo loves so much. I would want nothing more than for TNA and Hogan to do what they claim. But all signs point to Hogan being in this for himself.

You lowered the maturity level whenever SH would try to engage you in a legitimate arguement and you posted "sour grapes" pictures and such EVEN THOUGH HE HAS SAID HE DOESN'T HATE TNA. Reality is a nice thing.

...go find me something, ANYTHING.. where he makes a positive\kind\constructional comment regarding TNA.. their move to Monday.. or their direction. And then come back and say; he's not sour grapes.

[Satans Hockey]

...go find me something, ANYTHING.. where he makes a positive\kind\constructional comment regarding TNA.. their move to Monday.. or their direction. And then come back and say; he's not sour grapes.

Angle-Styles was an awesome match, there is no question about it.

[Beezer34]

ah, back to the last word freak.

okay okay, it's my turn. Here goes... NO YOU DIDN'T!!

[RSC]

ah, back to the last word freak.

okay okay, it's my turn. Here goes... NO YOU DIDN'T!!

I don't understand this "last word" obsession. You asked to see an example of a time when he posted a positive comment about TNA. He produced it. And then YOU reverted to immaturity.

[Beezer34]

I don't understand this "last word" obsession. You asked to see an example of a time when he posted a positive comment about TNA. He produced it. And then YOU reverted to immaturity.

That's not a complement. A complement is saying something positive, and leaving it at that. A complement followed by "but", "and", "or" etc. is contradiction.

*ie: Telling your wife: her dress looks nice, followed with; "but I wish you'd do something about your hair." --Get it?

[RSC]

That's not a complement. A complement is saying something positive, and leaving it at that. A complement followed by "but", "and", "or" etc. is contradiction.

*ie: Telling your wife: her dress looks nice, followed with; "but I wish you'd do something about your hair." --Get it?

Ok, you asked for the following:

...go find me something, ANYTHING.. where he makes a positive\kind\constructional comment regarding TNA.. their move to Monday.. or their direction. And then come back and say; he's not sour grapes.

That was a positive comment. If you were looking for fawning over TNA, its not going to happen. It is not perfect. WWE is far from perfect. I hate WWE's direction, but they have a stranglehold on ratings and fans. I'm trying to be realistic. You take everything negative about TNA and take it as if somebody slapped you in the face.

I'm done with this argument. Every post is less and less about wrestling. I know you're going to slight me somehow, but I don't give a sh!t.

[Beezer34]

That was a positive comment. If you were looking for fawning over TNA, its not going to happen. It is not perfect. WWE is far from perfect. I hate WWE's direction, but they have a stranglehold on ratings and fans. I'm trying to be realistic. You take everything negative about TNA and take it as if somebody slapped you in the face.

I'm done with this argument. Every post is less and less about wrestling. I know you're going to slight me somehow, but I don't give a sh!t.

...the bottomline to all this is, owning up, and saying the facts that have been released. And the facts are simple; *TNA held their own.. *Their ratings broke records.. *The Old-Farts drew the highest.. etc. etc. Getting into these posts; "This match was better" -or- "TNA Failed" -or- "Burn in Hell Terry Bollea" At that point the debate is done, because we are no longer dealing with facts.. we're dealing with opinions.

When you attempt to predict how something will come off (or work) and you are wrong on all accounts... end it there. No one asked for an apology, but no one wants to hear spin-work either. To backpedal, and hurl slam after slam after slam.. is the definition of sour-grapes. I haven't heard one negative thing regarding TNA since Monday, (except for the 4 people in this thread) and if the anger is that thick.. there really is an easier solution.. Do Not Watch.

Edited January 7, 2010 by Beezer34

[Satans Hockey]

Raw sucked tonight. Total garbage. The only good thing was the Miz-MVP promo. We also have Orton-Sheamus for the WWE title at the Rumble.

[CRASHER]

Raw sucked tonight. Total garbage. The only good thing was the Miz-MVP promo. We also have Orton-Sheamus for the WWE title at the Rumble.

the Miz promo ran a little long but was good

It's a shame the Tyson turn was SO OBVIOUS....and damn them for botching the "he's STILL GOT IT" line

[MantaRay]

Was TNA on last night? Or is this back to Thursday?

[Beezer34]

Was TNA on last night? Or is this back to Thursday?

...they're back to Thursdays now. There are ongoing negotiations between TNA & the exec's in SpikeTV to move them to Monday full-time (possibly in the future) but for now, iMPACT! will remain on Thursday's.

[MantaRay]

...they're back to Thursdays now. There are ongoing negotiations between TNA & the exec's in SpikeTV to move them to Monday full-time (possibly in the future) but for now, iMPACT! will remain on Thursday's.

Thanks Beez!

[Satans Hockey]

Great job TNA, being real original over there...

it's a spoiler from the tna taping...

A.J. Styles defeated Kurt Angle with an ankle lock. This match was described as an 'Orlando Screw Job'. Earl Hebner was the referee for this match and he had them ring the bell. Styles, Flair, and Hebner left the ringside area. After the match, Hulk Hogan came out and Angle spat in his face. Angle went to the announce table and took Mike Tenay's chair and throw it into the stage

We have never seen that before.

WWE had the worst raw of the new year so far tonight too, other than the taker-hbk promo the rest sucked hard. Were we all suppose to be so surprised that cena, show, hbk, and hhh were going to be in the rumble? Plus cena already said he was going to be in the rumble, there was no need for him to come down at the end and say it again. So stupid.

[CRASHER]

Let's read the spin on this one

- Before tonight's TNA iMPACT tapings began in Orlando, members of the TNA staff addressed the crowd at the iMPACT Zone about their behavior.

Fans were told not to curse, make obscene gestures or gang signs. The fans were referred to as "cast members" and were basically told they needed to be quiet, according to a fan in attendance.

This is likely another decision made by Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, who haven't been pleased with some of the reactions from the TNA crowd lately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jAIe58DveY&feature=player_embedded

(what a cluster fvck... you do what we want you to do... bllaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!)

[MantaRay]

This is something that TNA is going to have to learn. WWE is great at controlling an audience (provides the signs for the fans) and also taking advantage of the bigger arena size where the audience is pretty much background and the voices of 20,000 people drawn out the profanity.

This is something WWE has cultivated after years of experience, though they still can't control 100%, but they use the audience as a gage for character developing.