metallidevils Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) You know what, if that one single play, one single mistake in an otherwise solid performance by Marty is already being considered the 'backbreaker' of the series, then, in all honesty, Marty just did us all a favor and is making the series quick and painless. Some of the posts in the GDT are straight up embarrassing. A goalie letting in one soft goal shouldn't turn the tide of the entire series - not in game one, at least. Why is the rest of the team, and the coach, and our beloved LOU not at all to blame for the team being completely incapable of bailing our HoF goalie out of a single bad goal? Lunqvist and his pads clearly have the Devils' number this season, but that shouldn't mean that Brodeur has to play flawlessly every single game. He made ONE mistake, and even made a few saves that would have been understandable goals. The bigger picture is still that this team simply can't score, not that there's a problem with our goaltending. People actually think that if Marty had had more rest during the season, that we would have won this game? Don't kid yourself. The fact that after an entire season, I couldn't get more than 2 or 3 people to believe that Lou had done a crappy job this season, but after an outstanding season in goal, one bad goal and an entire message board goes against our goalie, doesn't make any sense. Get a hold of yourselves. Edited April 10, 2008 by metallidevils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) You know what, if that one single play, one single mistake in an otherwise solid performance by Marty is already being considered the 'backbreaker' of the series, then, in all honesty, Marty just did us all a favor and is making the series quick and painless. Some of the posts in the GDT are straight up embarrassing. A goalie letting in one soft goal shouldn't turn the tide of the entire series - not in game one, at least. Edited April 10, 2008 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarDew Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Poor Marty...he reminds me of Tom Seaver...pitched a superb game and would lose because his team couldn't score...I agree with the OP. Edited April 10, 2008 by StarDew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 You know what, if that one single play, one single mistake in an otherwise solid performance by Marty is already being considered the 'backbreaker' of the series, then, in all honesty, Marty just did us all a favor and is making the series quick and painless. Some of the posts in the GDT are straight up embarrassing. A goalie letting in one soft goal shouldn't turn the tide of the entire series - not in game one, at least. Why is the rest of the team, and the coach, and our beloved LOU not at all to blame for the team being completely incapable of bailing our HoF goalie out of a single bad goal? Lunqvist and his pads clearly have the Devils' number this season, but that shouldn't mean that Brodeur has to play flawlessly every single game. He made ONE mistake, and even made a few saves that would have been understandable goals. The bigger picture is still that this team simply can't score, not that there's a problem with our goaltending. People actually think that if Marty had had more rest during the season, that we would have won this game? Don't kid yourself. The fact that after an entire season, I couldn't get more than 2 or 3 people to believe that Lou had done a crappy job this season, but after an outstanding season in goal, one bad goal and an entire message board goes against our goalie, doesn't make any sense. Get a hold of yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 You know what, if that one single play, one single mistake in an otherwise solid performance by Marty is already being considered the 'backbreaker' of the series, then, in all honesty, Marty just did us all a favor and is making the series quick and painless. It was not the backbreaker of the series, but definitely the back breaker of the game. The series is not over, but that was a huge game, one which the Devils outplayed the Fags and deserved to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 It was not the backbreaker of the series, but definitely the back breaker of the game. The series is not over, but that was a huge game, one which the Devils outplayed the Fags and deserved to win. We don't deserve sh*t. Bury your golden chances and don't give up back-breaking, sloppy goals. Then you deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I agree, here is my post from the GDT: I know everyone is pissed about the goal Marty let in, hell I am. But this guy was a crucial part of 3 SC teams. I think he deserves a pass more than any guy on the team. I still have confidence in him to turn this series around. He had a couple of impressive sequences in the 2nd period where the Rangers were just swarming him with shots. If any goalie can pull this team through, he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadds3424 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 i agree 100 percent with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I agree, here is my post from the GDT:I know everyone is pissed about the goal Marty let in, hell I am. But this guy was a crucial part of 3 SC teams. I think he deserves a pass more than any guy on the team. I still have confidence in him to turn this series around. He had a couple of impressive sequences in the 2nd period where the Rangers were just swarming him with shots. If any goalie can pull this team through, he can. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a Devils fan who doesn't love and believe in Marty. There is just an enormous amount of frustration right now, and tempers will cool by Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a Devils fan who doesn't love and believe in Marty. There is just an enormous amount of frustration right now, and tempers will cool by Friday. I agree with that, I wasn't trying to take a shot at anyone. We all love and care about this team. I know for me its one of the biggest parts of my life so naturally its upsetting when they lose a game like this. Heres to a win on Friday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 We don't deserve sh*t. Bury your golden chances and don't give up back-breaking, sloppy goals. Then you deserve it. I see what you're saying, but the effort and heart was there. Maybe we didn't deserve to win, but you have to admit that the majority of the team was giving it their all. If Marty doesn't let in the 2nd goal, the effort that the Devils showed all game shines through and the Devils win this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 simply said, we have little or no margin for error -- and tonight the keeper made that error. Onto the next game. Same Philosophy, different results ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils26 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) simply said, we have little or no margin for error -- and tonight the keeper made that error. So do the Rangers, and they made one less mistake than we did. Thus the lost. Edited April 10, 2008 by devils26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCroMag Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I look at it this way... I love Marty. I absolutely do. But, on the other hand, I like butterscotch pudding. Crap...I was going to draw a parallel of some sort...I just forget what it was... Lemme think about it and get back to this thread later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) I agree, here is my post from the GDT:I know everyone is pissed about the goal Marty let in, hell I am. But this guy was a crucial part of 3 SC teams. I think he deserves a pass more than any guy on the team. I still have confidence in him to turn this series around. He had a couple of impressive sequences in the 2nd period where the Rangers were just swarming him with shots. If any goalie can pull this team through, he can. Honestly, for these playoffs, the 3 SC teams doesn't mean jack. Lou winning 3 SCs doesn't mean jack. Every goalie in the playoffs now has less playoff experience than Marty, and I'd almost guarantee that half of them 'outperform' him per se. People put WAY too much importance on experience, IMO. It's good having some leaders who have been through it before, but it doesn't make anyone immune to anything. Lou has assembled better teams in the past than pretty much every current GM, but many GMs have currently assembled much better teams this year. It comes to a point that the past doesn't matter anymore. I'll never forget the teams that Lou assembled. But frankly, if he doesn't get this team some incredibly-needed offense AND defense (how the hell does a team need both??) then frankly, the past is not forgotten, but the present also cannot be forgiven. I'm just convincing myself that even if Marty didn't give up that goal, the team still wasn't scoring more than one anyway. Honestly, seeing as that it was a soft goal, the team should have been MORE focused on bailing him out, and they obviously still couldn't score. Edited April 10, 2008 by metallidevils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 The word of the day is captialize. One team did the other didn't...the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdss4 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 The word of the day is captialize. One team did the other didn't...the end. Yep. I just posted about that in the GDT. Chances don't mean sh!t unless you put them in the net. Doesn't matter how well the Devils played, they were never gonna win. All this did is show the Rags they don't have to play well to beat us. And about whether or not this was a "back-breaker". It was. This Devils team is too fragile offensively to come back from a deficit, not to mention two one goal deficits. This series was over before it started, and now it's over for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Honestly, for these playoffs, the 3 SC teams doesn't mean jack. Lou winning 3 SCs doesn't mean jack. Every goalie in the playoffs now has less playoff experience than Marty, and I'd almost guarantee that half of them 'outperform' him per se. People put WAY too much importance on experience, IMO. It's good having some leaders who have been through it before, but it doesn't make anyone immune to anything. Lou has assembled better teams in the past than pretty much every current GM, but many GMs have currently assembled much better teams this year. It comes to a point that the past doesn't matter anymore. I'll never forget the teams that Lou assembled. But frankly, if he doesn't get this team some incredibly-needed offense AND defense (how the hell does a team need both??) then frankly, the past is not forgotten, but the present also cannot be forgiven. lol - incredibly needed offense and defense - i'll just let that one sink in for a bit. this team is a cup contender with one league average first pairing guy (or exceptional 2nd pairing guy), and one top 6 forward, who might even be travis zajac. Edited April 10, 2008 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Holy sh!t the sky must be falling because I actually agree with you metallidevils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Honestly, for these playoffs, the 3 SC teams doesn't mean jack. Lou winning 3 SCs doesn't mean jack. Every goalie in the playoffs now has less playoff experience than Marty, and I'd almost guarantee that half of them 'outperform' him per se. People put WAY too much importance on experience, IMO. It's good having some leaders who have been through it before, but it doesn't make anyone immune to anything. Lou has assembled better teams in the past than pretty much every current GM, but many GMs have currently assembled much better teams this year. It comes to a point that the past doesn't matter anymore. I'll never forget the teams that Lou assembled. But frankly, if he doesn't get this team some incredibly-needed offense AND defense (how the hell does a team need both??) then frankly, the past is not forgotten, but the present also cannot be forgiven. I'm just convincing myself that even if Marty didn't give up that goal, the team still wasn't scoring more than one anyway. Honestly, seeing as that it was a soft goal, the team should have been MORE focused on bailing him out, and they obviously still couldn't score. Obviously that doesn't mean that is a guarantee the Devils will do well. All I was trying to say was this guys is a winner, he will find ways to win games for this team. He is still in his prime and on top of his game. This team isn't assembled as well as I would like but I do think they can find a way to win games. I agree with you about getting some offense and defense for next year, normally I am not high on FA's but I really think it makes sense for this team with the way it is assembled for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallidevils Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) lol - incredibly needed offense and defense - i'll just let that one sink in for a bit.this team is a cup contender with one league average first pairing guy (or exceptional 2nd pairing guy), and one top 6 forward, who might even be travis zajac. You're officially the first person this year to deny that the Devils need to obtain more offense in the offseason. The defense has played much better obviously than the first half of the season, but breakdowns are almost guaranteed, literally just about every game. Almost EVERY goal the Devils have given up during the stretch can be pinpointed exactly to a specific player or players blowing their coverage. How can you possibly not think that this team actually needs to improve in the offseason? Regardless, this isn't the point of the thread. Edited April 10, 2008 by metallidevils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 the issue is that this team has ALWAYS folded like a cheap suit if marty lets in a bad one - especially at a bad time which he did tonight. as triumph pointed out, marty has a lot more memorable clunkers than great ones in the playoffs. aside from the cup runs where he had some great series, he's been just as much the problem. the devils shots hit lundqvist more than he made the great saves. then again...remember TB last year. marty was terrible in game one and let in several bad goals. they won that series. the same can happen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 We don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdss4 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 the issue is that this team has ALWAYS folded like a cheap suit if marty lets in a bad one - especially at a bad time which he did tonight. as triumph pointed out, marty has a lot more memorable clunkers than great ones in the playoffs. aside from the cup runs where he had some great series, he's been just as much the problem.the devils shots hit lundqvist more than he made the great saves. then again...remember TB last year. marty was terrible in game one and let in several bad goals. they won that series. the same can happen here. Well, I mostly agree with what you said, but the Devils don't ALWAYS fold like a cheap suit when Marty lets in a bad one. The SCF game I was at (Game 3 2003 in ANA) was when Marty let in that goal where he dropped his stick and it went through his legs. That was the very first faceoff after the Devils had tied it at 1 and immediately gave Anaheim their lead back. The Devils fought and tied it at 2 before losing in OT. They had a chance, albeit a small one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Well, I mostly agree with what you said, but the Devils don't ALWAYS fold like a cheap suit when Marty lets in a bad one. The SCF game I was at (Game 3 2003 in ANA) was when Marty let in that goal where he dropped his stick and it went through his legs. That was the very first faceoff after the Devils had tied it at 1 and immediately gave Anaheim their lead back. The Devils fought and tied it at 2 before losing in OT. They had a chance, albeit a small one. that's the exception. in the playoffs for years, this team has not overcome bad, untimely goals by brodeur. what in my mind was the greatest loss in the devils history was due to a bad brodeur goal leading to the devils sagging and quitting. if you've been around these boards enough to know my posts, you know exactly what game i'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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