eaglejelly Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Calgary Sun Bettman and the league have a new fire to deal with after yesterday's game between the New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils. Rangers pest Sean Avery screened goalie Martin Brodeur during a five-on-three powerplay by staring at him face-to-face akin to a defender in basketball. Technically, it's not really a penalty, seeing as Avery didn't interfere with Brodeur or make contact, but Bettman said the league didn't approve. "It's something we're going to address in the realm of probably goaltender interference or unsportsmanlike conduct," he said. "We'll put the clubs on notice before we make that interpretation. "The ingenuity and creativity of things we've never seen before never ceases to amaze us but we'll deal with it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Well thats good. I was afraid it would be just downplayed as "well this is the playoffs he's a 'feisty' under your skin player". Type thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 You could tell Bettman was a little annoyed by it too.... guess I can't blame him... I love a good a$$hole moment, but that kinds takes the attention away from the game where it SHOULD BE Not to mention flopping your stick around in the air and pretending it's your mutil-thousand dollar spending pecker... yeah .... um not good for the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sutter was great in the postgame. Somebody asked about the incident and Sutter said the Ref came right over to him and said that if Avery did that again it would be a penalty. A follow up questions then asked how Sutter felt about it then and Sutter said that the ref couldn't come over until after Avery had scored so he didn't feel too good about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squishyx Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I'll credit avery for finding a new way to do what he does best. It shouldn't be in the game tho, its clearly unsportsmanlike in every sense of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The cretin will do it again. Jeez, Marty told the media he couldn't see the puck when he did it. The refs can't make up a penalty if it's not in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 which is why they have a nice vague penalty on the books called unsportsmanlike conduct... though I have to wonder if it's going to be a penalty if it's done again, why ISN'T it the first time?? Someone's gonna do this to me in goal this week I KNOW it... and they'll get murdered for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCroMag Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The cretin will do it again. Jeez, Marty told the media he couldn't see the puck when he did it. The refs can't make up a penalty if it's not in the books. If he does it again, maybe he'll take a one-timer square in the back, since he'll never see it coming. Because, ya know...that would be absolutely...horrible... *ahem* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDPucks Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 After the replay was shown on CBC's feed of the Boston-Montreal game they brought up that vague "misconduct" penalty. The feeling was Avery should have been put in the box for a 10 minute player misconduct meaning no PP for the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 After the replay was shown on CBC's feed of the Boston-Montreal game they brought up that vague "misconduct" penalty. The feeling was Avery should have been put in the box for a 10 minute player misconduct meaning no PP for the Devils. unsportsmanlike conduct can also be a 2 minute minor so it's up to the refs on what penalty they want to give Avery. I believe it will be a 2 minute minor if it comes up again in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theamazingtiny Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Can Bettman change the rules at this point in the season? Or is this a "we're looking into it for next year" thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaDevil Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) unsportsmanlike conduct can also be a 2 minute minor so it's up to the refs on what penalty they want to give Avery. I believe it will be a 2 minute minor if it comes up again in the future. No, that's not what he's referring to. A 10 minute misconduct (there are also game misconducts) only remove the player from the ice. Unless a 2 minute penalty is added, like an unsportsmanlike, no player sits in the box and there is no manpower change. Misconducts and unsportsmanlike conducts are two different things. Edited April 14, 2008 by SegaDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie B Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I was surprised Avery wasn't clocked from the side by one of the devils quite frankly. What he did definitely looked like unsportsmanlike conduct to me, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Can Bettman change the rules at this point in the season? Or is this a "we're looking into it for next year" thing? He is not changing the rules, he is just clarifying that the interpretation of certain rules, rightfully so. Even Rangers fans are saying they don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5thLiner Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 even though it wasn't in the rule book, with what he was doing the refs should've been looking for any excuse to give him a penalty. especially since there's two of them on the ice. and there was a point when he hit Marty with his stick. they should've called it then. On the other hand, everyone keeps saying they've never seen anything like that, but i remember the Bruins being on a 5 on 3 and sticking Chara in front of Marty and he had his hands up in front of him :whoknows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 No, that's not what he's referring to. A 10 minute misconduct (there are also game misconducts) only remove the player from the ice. Unless a 2 minute penalty is added, like an unsportsmanlike, no player sits in the box and there is no manpower change.Misconducts and unsportsmanlike conducts are two different things. I understand there is difference between a 10 minute or game misconduct and a 2 minute unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. "It's something we're going to address in the realm of probably goaltender interference or unsportsmanlike conduct," he said. The league appears to be giving 2 minute minors for this behavoir going forward and I believe they will assess it as unsportsmanlike conduct. I was saying it does not appear the league will be saying to give them a 10 minute misconduct penalty but will be giving out 2 minute minors and I believe it will be in the form of unsportsmanlike conduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJCroMag Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Bob McKenzie's take on TSN: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=234271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Penalty or not -- strictly *bush league* I can assure you the first time a Devs would do that, Lou would be addressing it shortly so it never happens again ... That guy got runned out of LA .. yet he's msgs' darling.. thats all you need to know about that fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils1985 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 even though it wasn't in the rule book, with what he was doing the refs should've been looking for any excuse to give him a penalty. especially since there's two of them on the ice. and there was a point when he hit Marty with his stick. they should've called it then. On the other hand, everyone keeps saying they've never seen anything like that, but i remember the Bruins being on a 5 on 3 and sticking Chara in front of Marty and he had his hands up in front of him :whoknows: Yeah, like Chara needs to do anything but stand there It's a real minor league move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The best part of that whole situation was when Drury skated over and told him to knock it off. Avery's antics get under the skin of even his own teammates. Even though they are his teammates, they are also hockey players, and I'm sure some of the more upstanding ones are sickened by his little act. It's the reason he was run out of Detroit and LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachattack9 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Should be unsportsmanlike conduct no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Curious to hear the take on Avery during Hockey Central today at noon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sutter was great in the postgame. Somebody asked about the incident and Sutter said the Ref came right over to him and said that if Avery did that again it would be a penalty. A follow up questions then asked how Sutter felt about it then and Sutter said that the ref couldn't come over until after Avery had scored so he didn't feel too good about it. So the NYR and Avery got away with it for now and it was a good thing the Devils have won Game 3. IMO, that goal should have never happened as Avery should have been in the penalty box for goaltending interference. Glad to see Bettman wasn't too happy about Avery circus antics and it won't happen again. Good for Sutter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Hellh0und Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The cretin will do it again. Jeez, Marty told the media he couldn't see the puck when he did it. The refs can't make up a penalty if it's not in the books. Rule 41 Abuse of Officials and other Misconduct Section G A misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who persists in any course of conduct (including threatening or abusive language or gestures or similar actions) designed to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty. http://www.nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule41.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachattack9 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Fits the bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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