Devils Pride 26 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 If Elias stays at center thanMalone/Elias Elias/Holik Malone/Bergfors/Vrana Parise Zajac Langenbrunner Pandolfo Madden Gionta Zubrus Rupp Clarkson Notes: I wouldn't mind bringing back Bobby Holik for Vet experience Oduya Martin Vishnevski Smith White Liles Extras: Corrente, Mottau(I would bring him back with a 2 year/$900K-$1M a year) This would be a reasonable roster for Lou's standards. But realistically those moves would not happen. I mean I definitely think Lou will be active this summer, and yes I expect some movement on July 1st and not the sit back and enjoy every good name being taken off the market by the Flyers and the Rangers like he did last year. Right now we have to focus on June 20th, thats when the Draft is and who we will pick at #21, my prediction is John Carlson of the Indiana Ice. Holik on the 1st line? shoot me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) Elias - Jokinen- Zubrus Parise - Langkow - Brunette Pandolfo - Madden - Vrana Clarkson - Rupp - Radivojevic Martin - Oduya Smith - Hainsey White - Vish Zajac, Gionta, Greene and a pick to FL for Jokinen Edited May 19, 2008 by ghdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Man Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed. Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year? They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him. Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 gionta absolutely has value - he scored 20 in his worst year. he is a legitamate top 6 forward even if sutter didn't use him there. he's well in line with his price structure. if florida is determined to deal jokinen while still trying to make the playoffs, gionta, zajac, and greene certainly accomplish that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Devs Fan Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Funny how fast everyone is giving up on Zajac, one of the only young forwards we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 gionta absolutely has value - he scored 20 in his worst year. he is a legitamate top 6 forward even if sutter didn't use him there. he's well in line with his price structure. if florida is determined to deal jokinen while still trying to make the playoffs, gionta, zajac, and greene certainly accomplish that goal. Gio can be a 30-35 guy with the right combination. I think he could come alive with the right passer. Look at that goal in Game 5. Thats the kind of stuff that got him 48. There is no doubt the Gio of late has been a different player. I'm also interested to see just what he does in this contract year. I actually liked the Zubrus-Zajac-Gionta line in the playoffs. Kind of a spare parts line of underachievers that i thought looked good together. Also, Parise and Elias shouldn't be split up after the way they started to connect. I saw a bunch that had them apart. I could see the Devils finding someone that matches better with them than Langs. Of course, leaving Zubes-Zaj-Gio together and replacing Langs on the top line means the Cap'n is on the 4th or checking, haha. I'd love to see Parise-Elias-Gio again. They looked good early in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Lemieux-Gretzky-Bobby Hull C. Lemieux-Lemaire-Lafleur Sakic-Yzerman-Br. Hull Clarke-Tikkanen-Schultz Stevens-Nieds Fetisov-Kasatonov Robinson-S. Savard Brodeur Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed.Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year? They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him. Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a dream roster, as in we know this won't happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 All you people that think Gionta has any real trade value must be smoking some serious weed.Why would any GM, especially of a non-contending team, give up ANYTHING of value for a pint-sized, 20 goal scorer, who will make $4 mil this year, and will be a UFA next year? They can all get him at a reduced price after the season if they really wanted him. Just because you want to see him traded doesn't mean the other 29 GMs suddenly lost their mind. Agreed, which why most teams will wait until after the season to get him cheap, get him a real center and watch him put up 30+ goals again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Mottau Kidding right?Rupp ... Nice guy to teach the new AHL players how to adjust to the NHL but not a Devil next year. So does Andy Greene have to skate backwards into Brodeur and kill him with a skate blade before some people are convinced that Mike Mottau has earned a spot before him???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 has to be logical though take in the capelias stoll zubrus parise zajac langs pando madden vrana rupp sarge clarkson maritn pitkanen white lilles oduya smith gionta bergfors and a 4th shipped for rfa contracts of stoll and pitkanen devils win cup. I like the D there but the offense still looks very bare to me.. I think Langs/Zubes/Zajac need to have bigger seasons for this team to succeed; Zajac had a tough Sophomore year, Langenbrunner never really found groove and consistency in scoring (although he was pretty good in shootouts), and Zubes NEVER had it going some better post-season goaltending by Brodeur would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Tanguay-Parise-Langenbrunner Elias-Zajac-Zubrus Pando-Madden-Vrana Brylin-Rupp-Clarkson Warrener-Mottau White-Martin Oduay-Salvador Greene Gionta (4M) and Vishnevski (1.8M) to Calgary for Tanguay (5.25M) and Warrener (2.5M) as the Flames dump nearly 2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptynet Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hate to say it but I dont see Gio coming back. He's going to be the key piece to any packages that involve getting a quality player in return. Gionta and Zajac for Ollie? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusious Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Elias-Jokinen-ZubrusParise-Zajac-Langs Pandolfo-Madden-Dupuis Clarkson-Holik-Vrana White-Liles Corrente-Mottau Smith-Martin Gionta/Oduya traded in the Jokinen deal That Brodeur guy in net Agreed on the Jokinen trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hate to say it but I dont see Gio coming back. He's going to be the key piece to any packages that involve getting a quality player in return.Gionta and Zajac for Ollie? Who knows. Wouldn't be surprised to see him gone soon. And I think no matter what, he still signs with NYR after next season and puts up 35 goals with Gomez centering him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) edit... double post... Edited May 20, 2008 by Devil Dan 56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league. Even the least valuable 35 goal scorer will get some value from a team like Columbus or St Louis, two teams that desperatly need secondary or primary goal scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Gionta would be one of the least valuable 35 goal scorers in the league. I don't know if that is completely true. Gionta could play the PK again, and do fairly well, which increases his value. He also plays good transition defense. His puck possesion, defensive physical pla, passing, and set play defense are not good at all but he does bring more to the table than just scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I don't know if that is completely true. Gionta could play the PK again, and do fairly well, which increases his value. He also plays good transition defense. His puck possesion, defensive physical pla, passing, and set play defense are not good at all but he does bring more to the table than just scoring. not much more though. and passing is so much more valuable than all of that stuff. what we're seeing now in the NHL is that almost every scorer can play the PK. sure guys like kovalchuk and ovechkin don't, but i imagine they could, and not do horribly. it just doesn't make much sense to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Tri, you just picked elite goal scorers with great physical skills, they aren't the typical non-valuable 35 goal scorer we're talking about here . I was really just nitpicking though, I tend to think Gionta would be middle-lower of 35 goals scorers in terms of value and not bottomish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 of the 30+ goal scorers in the league this season, only Brad Boyes, Patrick Sharp, and Vinny Prospal are less valuable, imo - (had Gionta scored 30-35). I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that all 3 won't score 30 next season. Thomas Vanek is close, but Vanek is only 24 and should be a consistent 30 goal man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empulse27 Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) Elias-Connolly-Gionta Parise-Madden-Langs Malone-Zubrus-Bergfors Pandolfo-Zajac-Clarkson Extra: Rupp Martin-Oduya Commodore-Liles White-Mottau/Corrente 1. Re-sign Pando and Mottau, let go of everyone else while hoping Brylin declines his option/retires/plays in Europe 2. Trade Vishnevski, Pelley and 2nd or 3rd rounder to BUF for Tim Connolly 3. Sign Mike Commodore and JM Liles 4. Sign Ryan Malone 5. Bring up N. Bergfors and Matt Corrente 6. Trade Andy Greene for a late draft pick Might not work in the salary cap because of Commodore or Liles, it really depends on the market/other deals similar players get Edited May 21, 2008 by empulse27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 2. Trade Vishnevski, Pelley and 2nd or 3rd rounder to BUF for Tim Connolly lol wut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king bun Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Elias-Jokinen-Zub Parise-Langs-Vrbata Madden-C.Kelly-Clarkson Pandolfo-Rupp-Vrana Martin-Oduya Smith-Liles Hainsey-Corrente Brod weeks Zajac+1st for Jokinen(+Gio if needed) Gio for a 2nd pick White for 3-4 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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