ghdi Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 http://thefourthperiod.com/news/fla080626.html .....It's uncertain if the Panthers will consider trading Bouwmeester, or if any teams have pitch any offers for him. The New York Rangers, Ottawa Senators, Edmonton Oilers and New Jersey Devils are believed to be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Devils may be interested, but we certainly don't have the pieces to offer. If Florida were to trade Bouwmeester (which their defense, frankly, could withstand after last week's trade), they'd probably be looking a first-line player in return, preferably a center. Florida's roster right now has one guy (Weiss) who was a reliable offensive center throughout last season. Unless they're thinking of moving McLean from the wing back to center, they're incredibly short up the middle right now. We could offer Gionta, but he's obviously not a center, and beyond that we've got squat to offer. Edmonton's an interesting possibility for Bouwmeester. It's his hometown, the Oilers need defensive help, and they could offer up Pitkanen & Stoll in exchange, plus potentially an up-and-comer like Pouliot, Shremp, Nash. Edited June 26, 2008 by insanity_gallops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpua19 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Ive always been a fan of his, hoping one day he could land with us...If we could I would do it w/o touching our core(outside of gio) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac and Gionta are so expendable, just pull the trigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Bouwmeester is one of the most talented Dmen in the league about to enter his prime. I would give up anything cept for Marty/Parise to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Why don't I think there's a snowballs chance in Hell this will happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elias2600 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Bouwmeester is one of the most talented Dmen in the league about to enter his prime. I would give up anything cept for Marty/Parise to get him. agreed. Why don't I think there's a snowballs chance in Hell this will happen? agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac and Gionta are so expendable, just pull the trigger! Zajac's young, inexpensive and has upside. Unless he's being included in a package for a bona-fide star player, he needs to stay...just too early to give up on him. As for Gio...if the right deal's there, sure, but I get the feeling teams are going to buy low and hope for a high reward...which means Lou probably won't find a deal to his liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Devs Fan Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I hope Lou at least makes the call and sees what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJayDevil Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac's young, inexpensive and has upside. Unless he's being included in a package for a bona-fide star player, he needs to stay...just too early to give up on him.As for Gio...if the right deal's there, sure, but I get the feeling teams are going to buy low and hope for a high reward...which means Lou probably won't find a deal to his liking. Ok, and that star player is Bouwmeester.... Zajac hasn't really done anything in 2 years here. He's tall, but packs no meat on the ice. Of his like 20 goals he's scored in 2 years, they've mostly been garbage goals. He does have upside, sure, but he isn't a first line center for years to come. And as far as I see it, it isn't giving up as it's getting the best value at the best time for a player like Zajac before he turns into a Gionta value. Bouwmeester on the other hand is such an asset on defensemen. Especially since Colin White really sucks more than ever, and only has one eye. Bouwmeester is a 1st pairing defensemen for years to come. Him and Martin as a pairing in key situations (PP, PK, remaining minutes) is mouth watering. Gionta is lost without Gomez, that's pretty obvious. His value is the opposite of Zajac, but packaged with him makes him look nicer. If only Lou could sell Zajac as a first line center (the Panthers blaring need), and if the Panthers are oblivious of Gionta's need for a assist-producing center this deal could work. Throwing in Brookbank wouldn't hurt either, who can be molded as a 25% Bouwmeester in the Panthers eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richer's Ghost Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'll stick with what I've stated elsewhere. Corrente + Gio + Zajac + 1st for him. I mean C'mon - this is the team that GAVE Olli to PHX for next to nothing. I'd like see a power center added to the lineup, but with giving up that much to get Jay, we'd really need Bergfors/Vrana to fill out the lines. Parise-Elias-Bergfors Zubrus-Madden-Rolston Pandolfo-Pelley-Langenbrunner Vrana-Rupp-Clarkson Martin-Oduya White-Bouwmeester Salvador-Mottau Vish I think that lineup would make the playoffs, but I'm not sure how far they'd go. It aches for another center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 gave olli? you mean for keith ballard, one of the best young defenders in the game, and nick boynton, a legitimate top 4 guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias26 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac and Gionta are so expendable, just pull the trigger! I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'd give my left arm, and I'm not even on the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richer's Ghost Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 gave olli? you mean for keith ballard, one of the best young defenders in the game, and nick boynton, a legitimate top 4 guy? Ballard - 82 games 6G 15A +7 85 PIM Boynton - 79 games 3G 9A -9 125 PIM I can find plenty of D men with those stats for well under the combined $5.5 Mil a year they cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg. Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Gionta makes 4 M, is in the last year of a deal before he becomes a UFA, and in the last two years has showed that 45 or whatever was an abberation... Nothing of value is coming the other way if he is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac, Gionta and a 1st and a 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Offer everything we got. JBou is the defender we have been missing for a long time. I agree with RG's offer. Corrente + Gio + Zajac + 1st even more if necessary. If JBou has done this good in Florida, imagine him in NJ with the likes of Brodeur and Martin as a supporting cast. And Larry tutoring his every move. DO IT LOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I hope Lou at least makes the call and sees what they want. It will atleast be Gionta. Langs is too old and zajaac not nearly enough. Maybe they would throw in Halischuk w/ Gionta. Not that I'm in any big hurry for Gio to go anywhere. Maybe Oduya as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 And if, as people are suggesting, Zajac & Gionta go to Florida for Bouwmeester... just who exactly is going to fill out the top 6 of the Devils? It would put the Devils in a similar situation as the Panthers: incredibly talented defense corps, absolutely pathetic top 6. Only way that would work is if Lou goes for broke on a free agent signing like Hossa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlebum Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 i would not trade zajac for boowmeester. gionta and a pick though i would do it in a second. also after that deal is complete you trade bergfors for joni rfa contract. devils then go onto sign vyborny and michael ryder. parise elias vyborny ryder zajac langs pandolfo madden zubrus rupp sarge/vrna clarkson martin boowmester oduya joni white mottau/vv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Zajac, Gionta and a 1st and a 2nd it's too late for these kind of deals, the draft was last weekend. the devils are not getting bouwmeester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Parise Elias Bergfors Langs/Zubrus Vrana UFA Pandolfo Madden Zubrus/Langs Brylin Pelley Clarkson Martin JBou White Oduya Salvador Vishnevski Mottau/Greene/whoever Rock solid D. Might be the best in the East an NHL. Offense looks ugly, but put in a UFA or 2, and we are decent. Always remember, DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlebum Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 have you forgotten who the number 1 pick is next year. gms will be stockpiling draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 have you forgotten who the number 1 pick is next year. gms will be stockpiling draft picks. tremendous logic. because the 1st overall pick is very good, teams will be trying to get the picks of teams who have a less than 2% chance of landing john tavares. next up: the red wings trade their 1st round pick for dion phaneuf and the penguins trade theirs for marc staal. the devils don't have the assets to pull this off - few do. the oilers are a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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