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Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello probably isn't done with his team's summer alterations.

Lamoriello promised Thursday to trim his payroll to give him more flexibility under the salary cap and also is still looking to upgrade his defense after strengthening the team up front with Tuesday's signings of Brian Rolston and Bobby Holik.

Even if he can't, Lamoriello claims he likes his defense as it is.

It appears defenseman Vitaly Vishnevski, who signed a three-year, $5.4 million contract last summer, is on his way out. If the Devils can't find a taker in a trade, they could place Vishnevski on waivers and, if he's not claimed, send him to the minors, which would clear $1.8 million in cap space.

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Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello probably isn't done with his team's summer alterations.

Lamoriello promised Thursday to trim his payroll to give him more flexibility under the salary cap and also is still looking to upgrade his defense after strengthening the team up front with Tuesday's signings of Brian Rolston and Bobby Holik.

Even if he can't, Lamoriello claims he likes his defense as it is.

It appears defenseman Vitaly Vishnevski, who signed a three-year, $5.4 million contract last summer, is on his way out. If the Devils can't find a taker in a trade, they could place Vishnevski on waivers and, if he's not claimed, send him to the minors, which would clear $1.8 million in cap space.

Maybe package Whitey too with his bloated salary, ugh !

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The only way we send Vishnevski out of here is in a package with Gionta.

Quick question... If Colin White were to retire... that would be due to his eye injury and wouldn't count against the cap right??

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The only way we send Vishnevski out of here is in a package with Gionta.

Quick question... If Colin White were to retire... that would be due to his eye injury and wouldn't count against the cap right??

White is not retiring dude.

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It does look like VV has played his last games as a Devil. If they release VV then there will be $7-$8M to spend under the salary cap.

Nope

if they waive him I think they are still on the hook for the salary (too late for a buy out and I'd not want to have him on the cap over four years)... they can demote him... but that only adds $1.8 M to our $2.2. M... that's four

...I like your math though, gives us more cap room then we should have :lol:

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It does look like VV has played his last games as a Devil. If they release VV then there will be $7-$8M to spend under the salary cap.

?? Where did you come up with that figure?

According to this:

http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=NJD&season=0809

With VV we have 2.1 million in cap room, without VV we are up to 3.5

According to this:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NJ

With VV we have 1.3 in cap room, without we are up to 3.1

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Nope

if they waive him I think they are still on the hook for the salary (too late for a buy out and I'd not want to have him on the cap over four years)... they can demote him... but that only adds $1.8 M to our $2.2. M... that's four

...I like your math though, gives us more cap room then we should have :lol:

Crasher, I am not sure about that. It is not like the NFL I believe. If they release VV it won't count towards the salary cap as they no longer own him or his rights.

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?? Where did you come up with that figure?

According to this:

http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=NJD&season=0809

With VV we have 2.1 million in cap room, without VV we are up to 3.5

According to this:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NJ

With VV we have 1.3 in cap room, without we are up to 3.1

Maybe its just me but thats not much of a gain in cap.. unless we are pursueing someone who wants 3mil/year? Doubt it.. Cant only be VV.. The easiest payroll to unload is Gionta and his 4mil/yr, teams with playmaking centers will take him.

I personally rather see a package deal to acquire a defenseman instead of using the empty free agency pool

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?? Where did you come up with that figure?

According to this:

http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=NJD&season=0809

With VV we have 2.1 million in cap room, without VV we are up to 3.5

According to this:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NJ

With VV we have 1.3 in cap room, without we are up to 3.1

My bad there. I was adding his total contract of $5.4M so it would be about $4M.

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Crasher, I am not sure about that. It is not like the NFL I believe. If they release VV it won't count towards the salary cap as they no longer own him or his rights.

NHL == guaranteed contracts

NFL == NOT guaranteed (in the NFL when you cut someone you are only on the hook for their signing bonus)

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NHL == guaranteed contracts

NFL == NOT guaranteed (in the NFL when you cut someone you are only on the hook for their signing bonus)

OK.

Then if Lou can't trade or move VV he will go to Lowell. More money wasted.

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The contracts are going to get so bad in the NHL where its going to be like the NBA where during trades they are going to include players who just have Horrible Contracts just so they can match the deal.

Thats why i hate the NBA... overpriced babies.

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OK.

Then if Lou can't trade or move VV he will go to Lowell. More money wasted.

The actual money will be wasted, but not salary cap space. Plus, after hearing a few interviews with Vanderbeek in the past, it seems like he doesn't mind spending up to the cap. This causes me to believe that Lou would have no problem sending anyone to Lowell in order to get that player off the cap.

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We need to target Vancouver. That oft-rumored bit of Devils/Canucks making a trade has a better chance of coming to fruition now w/ Vancouver being short on forwards and losing both Naslund and Morrison.

Gionta to Vancouver for one of their young guys like Edler or even Bieksa.

I say we avoid Ohlund, hes pretty injury prone, and Salo is getting a bit long in the tooth but he'd be ok.

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The only way we send Vishnevski out of here is in a package with Gionta.

No way. Your telling me ATL wouldn't trade a 5th for him? (10M under the cap floor.)

Anyway, even if no one wouldn't trade for him, we could start him in the minors and never call him up. In the offseason, you can be sent to the minors without waviers.

His salary: the Devils still pay it.

His cap hit: gone, zip, nada

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