sundstrom Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 So I was reading this: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,122304 courtesy of our buddy Jester's blog. It got me thinking, could Lou deal Gionta for Lehtonen in the near future? It actually makes sense for both teams. Atlanta seems to have found a new goaltender in pavelec. i think the bloom is off the kari rose for them. they're looking for additional help up front. now i know the devils offense is terrible and it begs the question why the devils would deal an offensive player like gionta. but with rolston's eventual return, that slot will be taken again. in the mean time, the devils can have a top 6 of elias, zubrus, parise, zajac, clarkson, and langenbrunner. certainly not ideal - bergfors or vrana make the better case for the top 6 than clarkson. but kari is a huge upgrade over weekes and clemmenson. it stabilizes the devils' goaltending until brodeur returns. for those that would say that kari is too good to be a back up and his $3MM is too much to carry in that spot, he would be in that roll for at most 2 months (and likely less if marty isn't a quick healer and back at the end of february). he's an RFA at the end of the season - he is an asset that can be traded whereas gionta will be lost for nothing (unless he's dealt at the deadline). this makes more sense to me than dealing a 3rd round pick for a pending UFA in one of the Edmonton scrubs. my only concern is lehtonen's injury history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmigliore Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Im really not attracted by Leghtonen at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I am still pissed we passed on Pavelec for Frazee in the 2005 draft. I seen Pavelec all year and he was my 2nd favorite goaltender in the draft behind only Rask....Price has proven me wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Eh I dunno... it's definitely a quick fix.. but then when Marty gets healthy, we're down a top-6 foreward and have 2 good backups (in Weekesie and Kari) twiddling their thumbs. too much of the season could be lost by weekes and clemmenson by the time that marty gets healthy. by that time, if the devils are out of it, they're still dealing gionta. it's about keeping the team viable until marty returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyro Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 So far our goaltending hasnt been a problem. If we get a top d man that would help more than a goalie IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 too much of the season could be lost by weekes and clemmenson by the time that marty gets healthy. by that time, if the devils are out of it, they're still dealing gionta. it's about keeping the team viable until marty returns. I bet once they trade Gionta he'll turn back into a scoring machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatansDevils Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 So I was reading this: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,122304courtesy of our buddy Jester's blog. It got me thinking, could Lou deal Gionta for Lehtonen in the near future? It actually makes sense for both teams. Atlanta seems to have found a new goaltender in pavelec. i think the bloom is off the kari rose for them. they're looking for additional help up front. now i know the devils offense is terrible and it begs the question why the devils would deal an offensive player like gionta. but with rolston's eventual return, that slot will be taken again. in the mean time, the devils can have a top 6 of elias, zubrus, parise, zajac, clarkson, and langenbrunner. certainly not ideal - bergfors or vrana make the better case for the top 6 than clarkson. but kari is a huge upgrade over weekes and clemmenson. it stabilizes the devils' goaltending until brodeur returns. for those that would say that kari is too good to be a back up and his $3MM is too much to carry in that spot, he would be in that roll for at most 2 months (and likely less if marty isn't a quick healer and back at the end of february). he's an RFA at the end of the season - he is an asset that can be traded whereas gionta will be lost for nothing (unless he's dealt at the deadline). this makes more sense to me than dealing a 3rd round pick for a pending UFA in one of the Edmonton scrubs. my only concern is lehtonen's injury history. You bring up some good points there. Just not sure about putting Gionta in that trade. if Gionta is going to leave at the end of this season for sure then pull the trigger. I have always liked Lehtonen and thought about him last night when Atlanta won their 5th game in a row and Pavelec has been outstanding for them. Lehtonen has always played good games against the Devils and have beaten them a couple times. The thing is, does Lou have Lehtonen on his list of goalies? Hopefully he does and there is a chance of acquiring him in a trade. Lehtonen would be better than getting Garon or Roloson from Edmonton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 We don't need a goalie. We need our players to SCORE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 A top D man is the only soloution to our problem. Our point shots are laughable as is our outlet passes and th eheart of our game is: 1.) Dump, chase, lose puck control (thanks Gio) 2.) Chip up the boards (and eventually ignite the other teams offenseive rush) Even a great goalie is going to give up goals with the onslaught of continous point-blank shots from the slot. I've got a fever....and the only perscription is Francois Beauchimin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucifersDog Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) We need scoring not a goaltender. Gionta will get the Devils very little in a trade what team would want him based on his play? He is small and can't hit the net. He needs to be a package with a fair rookie to move to another team for a rookie in return or a 3rd liner. Edited November 15, 2008 by LucifersDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusious Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) I am still pissed we passed on Pavelec for Frazee in the 2005 draft. I seen Pavelec all year and he was my 2nd favorite goaltender in the draft behind only Rask....Price has proven me wrong though. Glad we did. My girlfriend thinks he's one of the most attractive guys ever. Ugh. Edited November 15, 2008 by Confusious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Eh I dunno... it's definitely a quick fix.. but then when Marty gets healthy, we're down a top-6 foreward and have 2 good backups (in Weekesie and Kari) twiddling their thumbs. Two good backups? When healthy Lehtonen is a bonified starter in the NHL. Amzing abililities to steal the game ala Luongo. If he ever got out of that system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger27 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 So far our goaltending hasnt been a problem. If we get a top d man that would help more than a goalie IMO And clear some damn people out ! I've been on whitey, as a big guy he doesnt nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice dog Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 forget goalies... the goalies are fine, the devils need to score goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodeurrocks Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 A top D man is the only soloution to our problem.Our point shots are laughable as is our outlet passes and th eheart of our game is: 1.) Dump, chase, lose puck control (thanks Gio) 2.) Chip up the boards (and eventually ignite the other teams offenseive rush) Even a great goalie is going to give up goals with the onslaught of continous point-blank shots from the slot. I've got a fever....and the only perscription is Francois Beauchimin. Well put. Well, everything until the Beauchimin crack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) can't see it, sundstrom. at the end of the year, what then? Lehtonen signs in Russia? (this is very possible, i imagine). atlanta would need a 2nd round pick along with gionta to make that happen. although they were stupid enough to give up on braydon coburn for alexei zhitnik.. on the plus side, i had a dream the devils traded for vesa toskala - they gave up tony romano and richard rochefort. ah well, a man can dream. Edited November 16, 2008 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Well put. Well, everything until the Beauchimin crack! Eh, Beauchmin's a fine player...but I don't think DLA knew he was about to be put on IR for six months at the time of his post Edited November 16, 2008 by Hasan4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Eh, Beauchmin's a fine player...but I don't think DLA knew he was about to be put on IR for six months at the time of his post Your right. Barring the injury Beauch would have been the #2 D man on everyone's list after JBou this year (and still may be). This guy doesn't get the widespread attention due to the marqis D names already on the Ducks roster, and he's a West coaster. He would be just what the doctor ordered for us. Deadly point shot, can move a puck, and takes the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 can't see it, sundstrom. at the end of the year, what then? trade his rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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