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look at the last few games last year

a BIG TIME defense makes the BIG STOP when your team needs it most

this defense did not do such things

(same can be said for said offense too)

Maybe it's just me but I thought the Cowboys defense got better as the year went on...

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Maybe it's just me but I thought the Cowboys defense got better as the year went on...

It's not just you; aside from the Baltimore pre-meltdown and the Filthydelphia total meltdown, our defense steadily progressed. I'm still holding out hope we sign Zach Thomas, but he said he "wasn't comfortable" in Wade's scheme, and if Brooking can produce better than Zach did, I'm all for it.

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I found this on another Cowboys board, the person who post it has alot of credibility, but I cannot vouch for the truth of his post... but it is interesting nonetheless...

Spoke to a Cowboys player today (I'd say who it was but it would be a breach of confidence) about several things related to the Cowboys, and learned some fascinating information regarding T.O..

Apparently that T.O./Witten fight you all read about was actually between T.O. and Carpenter. At one point, Jason Witten came in to break it up, restraining T.O., and somehow it was written as T.O. and Witten duking it out. Apparently, T.O. and Carpenter have been at each other's throats since Carp's rookie year when T.O. and a couple of his buddies pulled a rookie hazing prank on him. Carp got really angry over it and T.O. told him something to the effect of him having a big mouth for a rookie. T.O. has ranted to those who would listen on more than one occasion about Carp being a "privileged punk" because his father played in the NFL and he had everything handed to him on a silver platter.

So when the Werder article came out, T.O. naturally suspected it was Carpenter (T.O. suspected as far back as 2006 that Carpenter was leaking things to the media about him). He went over to confront him about it and they got into a skirmish.

The player I spoke to said that Romo and Witten are pretty much indifferent towards T.O.. Romo in particular does not care at all about any of the T.O. media stuff (as you can imagine, he has much bigger things to worry about) and he likes the guy well enough. They've always been respectful of each other and joke around with one another quite a bit. On the other hand, Romo wouldn't lose sleep if T.O. were released. He's just not the kind of guy who really gets too passionate about things like that.

Witten is more sensitive to the feelings of others (i.e. Carpenter) regarding T.O. than Romo, but he's never had a problem with T.O. personally. He understands why some might, but he respects him as a player and T.O. has never said or done anything to him. He was surprised and upset over the Werder article, and started ranting about how it was "tabloid ********" for a good 10 minutes when this player asked him about it.

He said this locker room is actually really quiet most of the time...almost to the point of being awkward. He thinks it's hilarious that people on the outside think it's some sort of war zone because he believes the problem is players aren't aggressive enough. This is the most laid back football locker room this player has ever been a part of.

On the other hand, T.O. confronting Carpenter made people really uncomfortable because it was so out of character for the locker room. A lot of people had an "oh please tell me he's not going to..." expression on their face when he did it. Of course, many of these same guys had no problem ranting about "cowards" to the media.

Oh, and BTW, it was Owens who first called him "Barbie Carpenter," for those who aren't aware. That gives you an idea of the depth of their conflict.

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Maybe it's just me but I thought the Cowboys defense got better as the year went on...
It's not just you; aside from the Baltimore pre-meltdown and the Filthydelphia total meltdown, our defense steadily progressed. I'm still holding out hope we sign Zach Thomas, but he said he "wasn't comfortable" in Wade's scheme, and if Brooking can produce better than Zach did, I'm all for it.

yeah... hence UNTIL IT COUNTED :P

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Canty is a Giant and Reese rules!

New York Giants sign defensive lineman Chris Canty

by Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger

Sunday March 01, 2009, 4:59 PM

"Chris Canty will still get a chance to hunt down NFC East quarterbacks. Only now, he'll do it in a Giants uniform.Three players in, three players added.

The Giants have plugged another free-agent piece into their defensive front today by signing lineman Chris Canty, the team announced moments ago. Someone infoirmed of the contract's terms said it's a 6-year, $42-million deal with $17.25 million guaranteed. The former Cowboy will join LB Michael Boley and DT Rocky Bernard - both signed yesterday - as integral members of the Giants' front seven.

Canty, 26, is the biggest of the three additions - and the biggest surprise. A 3-4 defensive end for four seasons since the Cowboys drafted him in the fourth round of the 2005 draft, the 6-7, 304-pound Canty will now likely switch to tackle in the Giants' 4-3 scheme. It won't be that big of an adjustment, though Canty will now have to get used to playing over opposing guards instead of tackles. He had 10 sacks (6 1/2 combined in the past two seasons) in his four years with Dallas. There's also a chance the Giants could line Canty up at end in some situations.

With a contract like the one he just signed, Canty will surely be a starter, which means either Fred Robbins or Barry Cofield will soon be in a backup role as part of a tackle rotation."

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They have to restructure Eli's contract as that is the next logical move. Before the 4 big signings the Giants were at about http 130 mill because of loophole were they we're able to add 7.2 mill for 09'.

We just used up about 14.5 million which is what we had for the year and lets figure we'll need 7-10 mill for draft picks (9!!!!! love it)! Re-up Manning and Robbins will be moved so figure somewhere in the 7-8 mill range left. It's really tough to tell right now based upon what Reese does with Eli and Robbins.

Great job by Reese!

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"Cry Eagles Cry"

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I would like to see this. I didnt know him deciding to resign with the super bowl champs, a place where he is comfortable, meant "hey jets go shove it."

Creative editorial? Dolphin fan posting bad news about Jets? Bad summary? :unsure: Meh, whatever.

And since we're here, more news:

For those of you who are living under a rock save for NJDevs, the sad story of Marquis Cooper & Corey Smith lost at sea. As if the Raiders and Lions GM's didn't have enough to worry about: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3945355

Cutler's PISSED, and here's why: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3944555

Brandon Marshall opens up the NFL Offseason Police Partnership program a little early, but dodges a major bullet: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3945483

Remember Michael Clayton? Yeah, me neither. But he signed with the Bucs for five more years: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3944914

Warner entertaining offers from Niners? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3942897

Andre Goodman is a Bronco: http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/01/broncos-gi...five-year-deal/

"Mr. Safety" Dan Orlovsky a Texan: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

The Packers lose Defensive Tackle Cole to the Seahawks: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

TJ Championship has narrowed his search to 3 teams and leaves Minneapolis without a deal: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-3...thout-deal.html

And in slightly relevant news, the Broncos have a new long snapper: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

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Creative editorial? Dolphin fan posting bad news about Jets? Bad summary? :unsure: Meh, whatever.

And since we're here, more news:

For those of you who are living under a rock save for NJDevs, the sad story of Marquis Cooper & Corey Smith lost at sea. As if the Raiders and Lions GM's didn't have enough to worry about: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3945355

Cutler's PISSED, and here's why: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3944555

Brandon Marshall opens up the NFL Offseason Police Partnership program a little early, but dodges a major bullet: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3945483

Remember Michael Clayton? Yeah, me neither. But he signed with the Bucs for five more years: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3944914

Warner entertaining offers from Niners? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3942897

Andre Goodman is a Bronco: http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/01/broncos-gi...five-year-deal/

"Mr. Safety" Dan Orlovsky a Texan: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

The Packers lose Defensive Tackle Cole to the Seahawks: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

TJ Championship has narrowed his search to 3 teams and leaves Minneapolis without a deal: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-3...thout-deal.html

And in slightly relevant news, the Broncos have a new long snapper: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Sorry to see Goodman go. I liked the way he played this year, espeically down the stretch. I wish him well in Denver. He's gonna have a lot of balls coming his way though with Bailey on the other side, so I hope he's ready.

Normally, I could care less about a team getting a new LS. However, that tidbit is interesting to me because I went to high school with the guy they just cut, Mike Leach, and I played hockey with his brother. I wonder where Mike will catch on? Good long snappers are hard to find, and Mike is pretty good.

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Bartell stays with St. Louis: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3946827

On Brandon Marshall:

Despite being in the clear from a legal standpoint, the Pro Bowl receiver might still be disciplined for repeated violations of the league's personal conduct code, which gives commissioner Roger Goodell the authority to punish players.

"We will [still] look into it," league spokesman Greg Aiello told The Associated Press on Monday after the case against Marshall was dropped.

This sounds more like due diligence combined with speculation, but if Marshall gets suspended after being cleared, well I disagree with that entirely.

Derrick Ward is a Buc: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-7...r-the-Bucs.html

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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/03...e_to_terms.html

Canty is a Giant and Reese rules!

New York Giants sign defensive lineman Chris Canty

by Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger

Sunday March 01, 2009, 4:59 PM

"Chris Canty will still get a chance to hunt down NFC East quarterbacks. Only now, he'll do it in a Giants uniform.Three players in, three players added.

The Giants have plugged another free-agent piece into their defensive front today by signing lineman Chris Canty, the team announced moments ago. Someone infoirmed of the contract's terms said it's a 6-year, $42-million deal with $17.25 million guaranteed. The former Cowboy will join LB Michael Boley and DT Rocky Bernard - both signed yesterday - as integral members of the Giants' front seven.

Canty, 26, is the biggest of the three additions - and the biggest surprise. A 3-4 defensive end for four seasons since the Cowboys drafted him in the fourth round of the 2005 draft, the 6-7, 304-pound Canty will now likely switch to tackle in the Giants' 4-3 scheme. It won't be that big of an adjustment, though Canty will now have to get used to playing over opposing guards instead of tackles. He had 10 sacks (6 1/2 combined in the past two seasons) in his four years with Dallas. There's also a chance the Giants could line Canty up at end in some situations.

With a contract like the one he just signed, Canty will surely be a starter, which means either Fred Robbins or Barry Cofield will soon be in a backup role as part of a tackle rotation."

Im willing to bet that, according to cowboy fans he is not a good player anymore. :P

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Im willing to bet that, according to cowboy fans he is not a good player anymore. :P

Actually, the contrary. He was good with us, nothing special.. but he is MUCH more of a 4-3 guy, didn't ever look comfortable in the 3-4, and has his better years ahead of him. It was a quality signing by the Giants.

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Actually, the contrary. He was good with us, nothing special.. but he is MUCH more of a 4-3 guy, didn't ever look comfortable in the 3-4, and has his better years ahead of him. It was a quality signing by the Giants.

fair enough. :)

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Bengals re-sign Cedric Benson :blink::blink:

Warner shocks everyone on the planet by restarting negotiations with Arizona. But there's a catch: he'll take less money if Boldin re-signs.

The exodus in Baltimore continues: Leohnard is a Jet

Miami counters by signing a new center, Jake Grove, who has to be happy to be going anywhere but Oakland

The Atlanta Falcons re-sign DE Davis

And Denver adds another piece, signing DT Fields. Man, if I was a Bronco right now, I'd be worried for my job security.

EDIT: Giants GM Reese doesn't believe in burning bridges...or shooting them in the leg.

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Actually, the contrary. He was good with us, nothing special.. but he is MUCH more of a 4-3 guy, didn't ever look comfortable in the 3-4, and has his better years ahead of him. It was a quality signing by the Giants.

I agree. I think he could be a nasty 4-3 defensive tackle.

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Miami counters by signing a new center, Jake Grove, who has to be happy to be going anywhere but Oakland

I really don't know too much about this guy, therefore I am extremely nervous about this deal. Any Raiders fans on this board? Help!

According to Yahoo, Grove is the 2nd best center and the 19th overall player in this free agency. Cool right?

I guess...but for that money?!? This guy better be awesome.

Now everyone is saying Samson Satele is getting moved to guard. Fine...BUT...instead of signing Groves, unless he is amazing, I would so much rather bumped Donald Thomas to center, while moving Satele to guard. Parcells and Sparano wanted a bigger center. I get that. Why can't Thomas add that extension and punch at 6'4, 310 pounds? Thomas looked awesome in training camp, pre-season, and against the Jets, until he got injured. He started playing football in college, so I don't want to hear, "He's a guard specialist," or any of that nonsense.

Ugh. This Groves guy better be worth it.

Should of just signed Jason Brown if we were going to dump this kind of money...

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