eaglejelly Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Rank 'Em: Greatest Goalies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Rank 'Em: Greatest Goalies My picks almost exactly matched the current rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 the only difference in mine were i put sawchuck second and roy third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I know there's always going to be some goofy votes with these kinds of lists, but why the hell did three people pick Curtis Joseph as the all-time best? He's had a good career and played on some bad teams, but who's making a convincing case that Joseph is the best of all-time? Same for those who voted for guys like Barrasso and Vernon. C'mon. the only difference in mine were i put sawchuck second and roy third RE: Sawchuk, why? The reason I'm asking is that I find it hard to rank guys I never saw play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 I know there's always going to be some goofy votes with these kinds of lists, but why the hell did three people pick Curtis Joseph as the all-time best? He's had a good career and played on some bad teams, but who's making a convincing case that Joseph is the best of all-time? The chances are Curtis Joseph and his family have a computer with internet connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneykoIsGod Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I have Sawchuk and Dryden in front of Hasek ... otherwise my top five is the same as SN's. The rest is a crap shoot. I'm not sure how they're weighting the votes, but it seems that someone who has 1,500 1st place votes should have a larger lead over someone with 900 1st place votes. Either that or a bunch of people are putting Marty way down on their lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I put Roy First. In the back of your minds you all know it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias26 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) I have not seen them all play so all I have is stats to go by. Edited March 13, 2009 by Elias26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevil26 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I know there's always going to be some goofy votes with these kinds of lists, but why the hell did three people pick Curtis Joseph as the all-time best? He's had a good career and played on some bad teams, but who's making a convincing case that Joseph is the best of all-time? Same for those who voted for guys like Barrasso and Vernon. C'mon.RE: Sawchuk, why? The reason I'm asking is that I find it hard to rank guys I never saw play. I've seen a lot of tape of him playing. I like to study the history of the game and have learned a lot about him and his style. The thing I tried to ignore was what Sawchuk's career would have been like if he had somebody like Rolston shooting slappers with composite sticks at him. Ignoring the change of times, I like Sawchuk better than Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 One criteria for measuring a player is the only one that really matters. How many cups have you won? In that case, it's Ken Dryden Jacques Plante Grant Fuhr Billy Smith Patrick Roy Brodeur had one shot to beat Roy. 2001. He lost face-to-face and will never get a chance for a rematch. I've played my brother once @ chess. He won. He won't play again so he can hold the throne as family chess champion. As for Sawchuck, I'm not so sure how good Brodeur would be if he was constantly taking shots to the face: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) One criteria for measuring a player is the only one that really matters. How many cups have you won?In that case, it's Ken Dryden Jacques Plante Grant Fuhr Billy Smith Patrick Roy Brodeur had one shot to beat Roy. 2001. He lost face-to-face and will never get a chance for a rematch. I've played my brother once @ chess. He won. He won't play again so he can hold the throne as family chess champion. As for Sawchuck, I'm not so sure how good Brodeur would be if he was constantly taking shots to the face: Comparing goalies based on cups when they've played for different teams, in different eras, with different rules, with different number of teams doesn't make sense to me. Also, matching 2 goalies careers and ignoring everything but 1 series doesn't seem to make sense either. If that's the case then Kevin Weekes is a better goalie than Marty as well. Edited March 13, 2009 by Devils731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Comparing goalies based on cups when they've played for different teams, in different eras, with different rules, with different number of teams doesn't make sense to me.Also, matching 2 goalies careers and ignoring everything but 1 series doesn't seem to make sense either. If that's the case then Kevin Weekes is a better goalie than Marty as well. As for different eras, that's always problematic. I was watching a show about steroids in baseball and whether there should be an asterisk and someone asked if Babe Ruth's records need asterisks because the league didn't allow some of the best pitchers in the world play (the black pitchers). Comparing goalies based on *ANYTHING* across eras doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If people are weighing Roy vs Brodeur, 2001 will always come up in the conversation. It's the one spot where Roy is the absolute clear winner and it's the big one. Four vs three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 If people are weighing Roy vs Brodeur, 2001 will always come up in the conversation. It's the one spot where Roy is the absolute clear winner and it's the big one. Four vs three. I didn't say it couldn't come up, I said using it to the exclusion of everything else doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice dog Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 the only difference in mine were i put sawchuck second and roy third i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) It's near impossible to rank players you never saw. But of the goalies I've seen, Dominik Hasek is the best one IMO. They're all difference-makers, but I thought Hasek was the biggest difference-maker of him, Brodeur and Roy. Edited March 13, 2009 by Jerrydevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oconnellrules Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 martin brodeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 My list was Hasek Roy Brodeur Dryden Hall Sawchuck Esposito Joseph Belfour Parent Vernon Plante Fuhr Hainsworth Barrasso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavid Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I didn't say it couldn't come up, I said using it to the exclusion of everything else doesn't make sense. Yea, I dont get that. Its not like they boxed each other for the cup. Is Montana a better quarterback than Marino simply because the Dolphins lost to the Niners in a Superbowl? Besides, if you are talking about the total package, I'll take Marty anytime over Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) Is Montana a better quarterback than Marino simply because the Dolphins lost to the Niners in a Superbowl? Besides, if you are talking about the total package, I'll take Marty anytime over Roy. When you're comparing the greatest players, it seems to me that there's no right or wrong, just opinions. If you'd take Brodeur over Roy, that's not an unreasonable statement. You bring up the "total package," and I assume you're taking about puckhandling. It's a fair argument. Marty was/is the best ever in that category. Edited March 14, 2009 by Jerrydevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arena2003 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 My list wasHasek Roy Brodeur Like it 7. Marty will eclipse them but for now a great top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoJohnnyGo Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I know records are made to be broken but if anyone gets close to Glen Halls' 502 consecutive games record, I think they should have to play the last few with no mask lol...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I put Roy First.In the back of your minds you all know it's true. I'm torn because of the 2001 finals. I've heard the arguments, but at the end of that series, Roy outplayed Marty. That said, Marty's been a better teamate for years, and I'm not going to let 2 games determine who was the better player. I voted Marty, and if Marty gets a 4th cup, I won't have any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice dog Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I put Roy First.In the back of your minds you all know it's true. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 What is Mike Vernon doing on that list at all? I think even Richter deserves to be on the top twenty more than Vernon. And even though their careers are relatively young, Luongo and Kiprisov are also better than Mike Vernon. Guess you can tell, I don't think that much of Mike Vernon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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