metallidevils Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 http://sports.sympatico.msn.ca/NHL/ContentPosting_TopShelf?newsitemid=9a1e8ef0-7aa8-4d2d-a0ae-59cd32421752&feedname=jeffmackie&show=False&number=0&showbyline=False&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=False Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 we probably all agree that gionta made out pretty darn well for what he's recently done but they're basing the Hossa analysis just on the playoffs? he's a perennial 40 goal scorer who may not win the title but he's gotten pretty close the last few years. and 5.2 isn't that bad of a cap hit for what he's giving you. much worse players have higher hits. the injury and the fact that Chicago is going to have a hard time extending Kane and Toews is my problem and for them putting gaborik there, like that was any surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 The Gaborik deal is way, way worse than Hossa's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 The Gaborik deal is way, way worse than Hossa's. Obviously, atleast hossa plays most of the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 what a tremendous leap of logic in this article. 'hossa's terrible in the clutch! what an awful player! oh yeah, and he sucks so hard he's getting shoulder surgery and will be out until december!' good job, article. i'm sure there's no relation between these two things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 5 million for gionta that,s expensive! But the Gaborik one is realy big! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Zone Trap Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Obviously, atleast hossa plays most of the games. Until he disappears in the playoffs......... Hossa, like Datsyuk become invisible in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Pretty ironic that you say this, yet hossa is likely to miss the first 1/2 or 1/3 of the season. gaborik will miss more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Until he disappears in the playoffs......... Hossa, like Datsyuk become invisible in the postseason. Hossa's career playoff numbers - 98 games played, 76 points (.77ppg). His first three go-'rounds int he playoffs were miserable (14 games, 4 points). But since then, he's put up 72 points in 84 games, or .85ppg. And if you throw out that Atlanta team which had no business being in the playoffs, he's put up 71 points in 80 games. Now, granted, he didn't fare well against the Penguins in last season's finals, but I think it's safe to say his shoulder injury affected his gameplay. Before that series began, though, he had 12 points in 16 games. Not nearly the beastly playoffs he had the year before, but still decent. For comparison, Elias has posted 113 points in 133 playoff games (.84 ppg); Parise has 24 in 32 (.75 ppg) a bit unfair given his reduced role in the first playoffs... in the last two seasons, then, Parise has put up 21 points in 23 games (.91 ppg); Langenbrunner has put up 85 in 132, with 49 pts in 63 Devils playoff games (.77 ppg). So I agree that he didn't have the best playoffs this year, and he doesn't typically produce in the post season like he does in the regular season, but it's not like he's Keith Tkachuk (.62 ppg). re: Datsyuk - he had a bad postseason last year (9 points in 16 games) but was also playing hurt. The two years before that he had 23 points in 22 games and 16 points in 18 games. I think a healthy Datsyuk has shaken the tag of "disappearing postseason player." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Hossa's career playoff numbers - 98 games played, 76 points (.77ppg). His first three go-'rounds int he playoffs were miserable (14 games, 4 points). But since then, he's put up 72 points in 84 games, or .85ppg. And if you throw out that Atlanta team which had no business being in the playoffs, he's put up 71 points in 80 games. But when you compare that to regular season performance (I know we did that last year)... it's a SIGNIFICANT drop-off and it is a fair comment to make... while Elias who you used in there keeps a similar level in post and regular season performances...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ja, and I noted that - hence the "So I agree... he doesn't typically produce in the postseason like he does in the regular season..." but it's also undeniable that scoring is significantly harder in the postseason. The truly great players hover near a point per game, IMO; the ridiculously talented ones hit that or exceed it (Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby). Hossa does fade a bit in the post-season, but he's still a solid playoff performer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime98 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 The Gaborik deal is way, way worse than Hossa's. agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CADevilsFan Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 (edited) gaborik will miss more than that. Yeah, especially given he plays Pronger 6 times a year. He's ripe for a dirty hit on a star player. Edited August 3, 2009 by CADevilsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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