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  1. 1. Most lopsided trade of the draft (by player taken with picks traded)

    • Trade1: Draft position selection (3rd) and Brandon Marshall for draft position selection (1st) and Chris Chambers
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    • Trade2: Draft position selection (10th) and Lee Evans for draft position selection (4th) and Seahawks DST
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    • Trade3: Marques Colston, Reggie Bush and Edgerrin James for Wes Welker, Braylon Edwards and Sammy Morris
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    • Trade4: Calvin Johnson, Donnie Avery, Lendale White and Domenik Hixon for Marion Barber, Antonio Bryant, Jerricho Cotchery and Laveranues Coles
      0
    • Trade5: Drew Brees, Cedric Benson, Steelers DST for Greg Jennings, Jonathan Stewart and Ben Roethlisberger
      1
    • Trade6: Ronnie Brown and Donnie Avery for Phillip Rivers and Owen Daniels
      1
    • Trade7: Knowshon Moreno, Roy Williams, Mason Crosby and Visanthe Shiancoe for Thomas Jones, Larry Johnson, Fred Taylor and Domenik Hixon
      0
    • Trade8: Felix Jones, Stephen Gostkowski and Matt Cassel for Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery and Nick Folks
      1
    • Trade9: Jeremy Shockey and Stephen Gostkowski for LeSean McCoy and Michael Crabtree
      1
    • Trade10: Lance Moore, Visanthe Shiancoe, Rob Bironas, Eagles DST and Nick Folk for Michael Crabtree, Ted Ginn, Willis McGahee, Dolphins DST and Sammy Morris
      0
    • Trade12: Jerrico Cotchery, Ricky Williams and Jerious Norwood to Hasan4978 for Jamel Lewis, Joe Flacco and Zach Miller
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    • Trade13: Donald Brown, Jets DST and Kevin Boss for Jamel Lewis, Joe Flacco and Zach Miller
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    • Trade14: Visanthe Shiancoe and Rob Bironas for Ahmed Bradshaw and Josh Brown
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    • Trade15: Carson Palmer and Ryan Longwell for Ben Roethlisberger and Rob Bironas
      1
  2. 2. Riskiest Draft (Team with the most boom/bust risk) - Team compositions are below

    • Martysb3tt3r
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    • Hi, Im Value
      0
    • Hasan4978
      1
    • Masked Fan
      2
    • UnderDogX
      0
    • devilsrule33
      1
    • MantaRay
      0
    • Aylbert
      0
    • RSC
      0
    • DevilsMJ
      1
    • CRASHER
      0
    • LOTCB
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  3. 3. Worst Draft (Including trades and picks made in each round) - Team compositions are below

    • Martysb3tt3r
      0
    • Hi, Im Value
      0
    • Hasan4978
      0
    • Masked Fan
      1
    • UnderDogX
      0
    • devilsrule33
      1
    • MantaRay
      2
    • Aylbert
      0
    • RSC
      0
    • DevilsMJ
      0
    • CRASHER
      1
    • LOTCB
      0
  4. 4. Best Draft (including trades and picks made in each round) - Team compositions are below

    • Martysb3tt3r
      0
    • Hi, Im Value
      1
    • Hasan4978
      0
    • Masked Fan
      0
    • UnderDogX
      1
    • devilsrule33
      0
    • MantaRay
      1
    • Aylbert
      2
    • RSC
      0
    • DevilsMJ
      0
    • CRASHER
      0
    • LOTCB
      1
  5. 5. Cellar Dweller (Predicted to finish last) - Team compositions are below

    • Martysb3tt3r
      1
    • Hi, Im Value
      0
    • Hasan4978
      0
    • Masked Fan
      2
    • UnderDogX
      0
    • devilsrule33
      0
    • MantaRay
      2
    • Aylbert
      0
    • RSC
      0
    • DevilsMJ
      0
    • CRASHER
      1
    • LOTCB
      0
  6. 6. Top Dog (Predicted to win championship) - Team compositions are below

    • Martysb3tt3r
      0
    • Hi, Im Value
      0
    • Hasan4978
      1
    • Masked Fan
      1
    • UnderDogX
      1
    • devilsrule33
      0
    • MantaRay
      1
    • Aylbert
      2
    • RSC
      0
    • DevilsMJ
      0
    • CRASHER
      0
    • LOTCB
      0


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Run-offs will be held if needed to get decisive answers.

The best drafted team might not spell championship... nor will the worst drafted team mean they will finish last... That's why there are separate questions for draft and finish.

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Team Composition

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Martysb3tt3r | Martysb3tt3r

QB: Phillip Rivers (SD), Brett Favre (MIN)

RB: Adrian Peterson (MIN), Knowshon Moreno (DEN), LenDale White (TEN), Willis McGahee (BAL), Sammy Morris (NE)

WR: Calvin Johnson (DET), Roy Williams (DAL), Chris Chambers (SD), Michael Crabtree (SF), Ted Ginn (MIA)

TE: Owen Daniels (HOU)

DEF: Dolphins (MIA)

K: Mason Crosby (GB)

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Hi, I'm VALUE! | VALUE = Ratings!

QB: Jay Cutler (CHI), Joe Flacco (BAL)

RB: Matt Forte (CHI), Ryan Grant (GB), Ray Rice (BAL), Jamal Lewis (CLE), Glen Coffee (SF)

WR: Reggie Wayne (IND), Vincent Jackson (SD), Percy Harvin (MIN), Mushin Muhammad (CAR)

TE: Greg Olsen (CHI), Zach Miller (OAK)

DEF: Seahawks (SEA)

K: Jason Elam (ATL)

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Hasan4978 | New Jersey Swamps

QB: Drew Brees (NO), Kyle Orton (DEN)

RB: Michael Turner (ATL), Ronnie Brown (MIA), Cedric Benson (CIN), Ricky Williams (MIA), Jerious Norwood (ATL)

WR: Dwayne Bowe (KC), Chad Ochocinco (CIN), Donnie Avery (STL), Jerricho Cotchery (NYJ), Earl Bennett (CHI)

TE: Dustin Keller (NYJ)

DEF: Steelers (PIT)

K: Kris Brown (HOU)

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Masked Fan | Masked Marauders

QB: Peyton Manning (IND), David Garrard (JAC)

RB: LaDainian Tomlinson (SD), Kevin Smith (DET), Julius Jones (SEA), Laurence Maroney (NE), Shonn Greene (NYJ)

WR: Anthony Gonzalez (IND), Eddie Royal (DEN), Santana Moss (WAS), Kenny Britt (TEN)

TE: Chris Cooley (WAS)

DEF: Cowboys (DAL)

K: Nate Kaeding (SD), Adam Vinatieri (IND)

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UnderDogX | Smirking Revenge

QB: Carson Palmer (CIN), Jake Delhomme (CAR)

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew (JAC), Darren McFadden (OAK), Johnathan Stewart (CAR), Rashard Mendenhall (PIT), James Davis (CLE)

WR: Greg Jennings (GB), Roddy White (ATL), T.J.Houshmandzadeh (SEA), Josh Morgan (SF)

TE: Dallas Clark (IND), Visanthe Shiancoe (MIN)

DEF: Chargers (SD)

K: Ryan Longwell (MIN)

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devilsrule33 | Faith in Jake!

QB: Tom Brady (NE), Shaun Hill (SF)

RB: DeAngelo Williams (CAR), Pierre Thomas (NO), Derrick Ward (TB), Donald Brown (IND), Mike Goodson (CAR)

WR: Terrell Owens (BUF), Braylon Edwards (CLE), Brandon Marshall (DEN), Kevin Walter (HOU), Patrick Crayton (DAL)

TE: Kevin Boss (NYG)

DEF: Jets (NYJ)

K: Nick Folk (DAL)

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MantaRay | MantaRavens

QB: Aaron Rodgers (GB), Byron Leftwich (TB)

RB: Steve Slaton (HOU), Beanie Wells (ARI), Leon Washington (NYJ), Mike Bell (NO), Greg Jones (JAX)

WR: Steve Smith (CAR), Bernard Berrian (MIN), DeSean Jackson (PHI), Chris Henry (CIN)

TE: Jeremy Shockey (NO), Jermichael Finley (GB)

DEF: Ravens (BAL)

K: Stephen Gostkowski (NE)

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Aylbert | Sworn Defenders

QB: Tony Romo (DAL), Matt Cassel (KC)

RB: Steven Jackson (STL), Marion Barber (DAL), Felix Jones (DAL), LeSean McCoy (PHI), Ahmed Bradshaw (NYG)

WR: Wes Welker (NE), Antonio Bryant (TB), Lee Evans (BUF), Lance Moore (NO), Laveroneus Coles (CIN)

TE: Tony Gonzalez (ATL)

DEF: Eagles (PHI)

K: Josh Brown (STL)

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RSC | Wack MCs

QB: Matt Ryan (ATL), Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)

RB: Chris Johnson (TEN), Clinton Portis (WAS), Reggie Bush (NO), Earnest Graham (TB), Edgerrin James (SEA)

WR: Anquan Boldin (ARI), Marques Colston (NO), Devin Hester (CHI), Deion Branch (SEA), Darrius Heyward-Bey (OAK)

TE: Kellen Winslow (TB)

DEF: Giants (NYG)

K: Rob Bironas (TEN)

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DevilsMJ | Big Blue

QB: Kurt Warner (ARI), Chad Pennington (NYJ)

RB: Brandon Jacobs (NYG), Joseph Addai (IND), Willie Parker (PIT), Tim Hightower (ARI), Correll Buckhalter (DEN)

WR: Larry Fitzgerald (ARI), Santonio Holmes (PIT), Torry Holt (JAC), Steve Breaston (ARI), Justin Gage (TEN)

TE: John Carlson (SEA)

DEF: Titans (TEN)

K: David Akers (PHI)

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CRASHER | XFL Castoffs

QB: Matt Schaub (HOU), Matt Hasselbeck (SEA)

RB: Frank Gore (SF), Thomas Jones (NYJ), Larry Johnson (KC), Darren Sproles (SD), Fred Taylor (NE), Carnell Williams (TB)

WR: Randy Moss (NE), Derrick Mason (BAL), Domenik Hixon (NYG)

TE: Jason Witten (DAL), Brent Celek (PHI)

DEF: Packers (GB)

K: Neil Rackers (ARI)

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LOTCB | JAKEEQUALSJP

QB: Donovan McNabb (PHI), Eli Manning (NYG)

RB: Brian Westbrook (PHI), Marshawn Lynch (BUF), Fred Jackson (BUF), Chester Taylor (MIN), LeRon McClain (BAL)

WR: Andre Johnson (HOU), Hines Ward (PIT), Donald Driver (GB), Hakeem Nicks (NYG)

TE: Antonio Gates (SD), Heath Miller (PIT)

DEF: Vikings (MIN)

K: Rian Kindell (BUF)

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Edited by aylbert

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What are the trades based on? I made one trade, yet my players are in two or three times?

The trades are based solely by pick number... so it means your pick was traded 2-3x before it wound up in your hands. Its part of the reason why I removed the teams... so its just squarely evaluate the pick value for pick value.

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Interesting topic, where are your votes?

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Interesting topic, where are your votes?

I'll admit I just voted :)

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Aren't questions 3-5 and 4-6 pretty repetitive? If you think someone had the best draft, odds are you'd pick them to win and vice-versa.

btw I didn't vote for me to win...I think I'll be in the playoffs at least but we'll see. I could have voted for my Brees trade cause that turned out pretty well with the players selected but I think Palmer-Roethlisberger with the two kickers was probably the best deal.

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Alright karma is a bitch and maybe I lose against him but I think Masked could run into some problems. But his team might turn out great too. I am not saying he has the worst team at all.

LT was your first pick and he could return to being a star, but if he doesn't you could be in trouble. Kevin Smith is a good back but the team around him does suck. Not a great O-Line and a sh!tty defense. If the Lions are down 14-0 again in first quarter, Kevin Smith might not become a factor. And who knows if they can establish a run game to begin with.

His first two receivers drafted aren't even #1 guys. It seems Brandon Marshall and the Broncos have worked things out and talks of a new contract are there. Anthony Gonzalez has a lot of buzz next to his name, but he had that last year too.

Again, he could have a top team and I'm not trying to hate, but I could see some problems.

Edited by devilsrule33

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Aren't questions 2-4 and 3-5 pretty repetitive? If you think someone had the best draft, odds are you'd pick them to win and vice-versa.

Yes/No. Like I said in the first post... having the best draft doesn't mean you'll win.

Having both polls allow you to go with the stat sheet and your gut feeling for surprises, injuries etc.

(ie:

I picked Value for best draft - Overall, a very balanced, solid team

I picked Hasan for winning - I think Brown/Ochocinco will be big this year - but there's some risk

)

Edited by aylbert

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I second the MF issue... I think if Anthony Gonzo doesn't have a breakout year, his WR corps is in serious doo-doo.

I picked aylbert to win it all... he wheeled and dealed his way into a really talented, well balanced team.

If AP plays like AP last year (or better), though, I'm not going to bet against myself. ;)

I also think you should add an option for each team... i.e:

Martysb3tt3r:

Option 1: 9+ wins

Option 2: 6-8 Wins

Option 3: 1-5 wins.

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Have to give props to MBIII for getting the best RB and receiver in the draft on paper. He has a solid QB and his RB Depth is extremely boom or bust. Has a nice TE too.

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Don't overrate Philip Rivers: I had him last year he piles up stats on teams like the Raiders, Denver and KC, but chokes against competition and I believe that have a much tougher schedule this year (aside from a weak division).

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Have to give props to MBIII for getting the best RB and receiver in the draft on paper. He has a solid QB and his RB Depth is extremely boom or bust. Has a nice TE too.

:thumbsup:

If Moreno pans out like I hope he will, my RB becomes my strongest psition. As a last resort, I have Lendale White on a contract year, and Willis McGahee as a sleeper... we'll see what happens. I'm certainly not "comfortable" with my RB situation, but everything else I like. I should have enough WR's to bulk up the RB slot if needed, but I'm really high on Knowshon.

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I have to look at the teams a little closer before I vote but I have to say I'm pleased with where I ended up. After the whole keeper idea I made a real effort to research these guys and get value.

A lot of my past draft strategy was boom or bust and it ended up bust more often than not...

right off the top though I'd put Ayl at the top to win it all...

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Don't overrate Philip Rivers: I had him last year he piles up stats on teams like the Raiders, Denver and KC, but chokes against competition and I believe that have a much tougher schedule this year (aside from a weak division).

Then how come he had a higher QB rating in non-division games as opposed to divisional games?

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How did someone cast a negative vote for devilsrule33 in cellar dwellar?

i'll guess ill zero him out.

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What in the world is a -1 vote?

That's what I was saying... there seems to be only 4 votes out there... so I just zeroed out your -1... I'm guessing someone changed their vote and it bugged out?

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Looking at the teams...I think it is clear there is no clear cut winner, which shows how smart most of us are. Usually in a lot of drafts you see one guy who does his homework kill a bunch of guys who weren't prepared, but this was a really good draft. I don't think anyone fell too far from where they were supposed to be drafted, and there weren't many wtf picks. If you had a sleeper in mind, you better have took him when you had the chance because chances were he wasn't going to come to you on the way back.

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Looking at the teams...I think it is clear there is no clear cut winner, which shows how smart most of us are.

I think the time factor is huge for this. Live drafts with 90 sec timers etc push people into corners... especially with runs on positions, etc.

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I think the time factor is huge for this. Live drafts with 90 sec timers etc push people into corners... especially with runs on positions, etc.

Absolutely, you're right. I take back everything I said in my previous post.

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Absolutely, you're right. I take back everything I said in my previous post.

hey we're smart too :D

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Alright karma is a bitch and maybe I lose against him but I think Masked could run into some problems. But his team might turn out great too.

I completely agree. I took risks, but I liked the potential payoffs. Huge.

I second the MF issue... I think if Anthony Gonzo doesn't have a breakout year, his WR corps is in serious doo-doo.

I believe Moss is good for 1200yds/12TDs and you are right about Gonzalez, I am banking on him, but Royal is a good insurance policy and Britt might be the sleeper of the draft. :ph34r:

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I believe Moss is good for 1200yds/12TDs and you are right about Gonzalez, I am banking on him, but Royal is a good insurance policy and Britt might be the sleeper of the draft. :ph34r:

You do realize you drafted Santana, not Randy :blink: The same Santana that's averaged about 900 yards and 5 TD's the last three years and still has middling Jason Campbell at QB and even worse WR's around him?

I like Royal (mainly cause I don't think we've heard the last whining from Baby Brandon) and think you took a little too much crap for Gonzalez but Santana ain't giving you those numbers.

Edited by Hasan4978

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Curious as to who voted Adrian Peterson to finish last place :whistling:

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