Rock Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/greene_impresses_lemaire/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyrsuck26 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Greene has impressed me as well. Hopefully he can keep it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prucenterrules Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Keep it up Greene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I was right in the aspect that I thought Greene would be better then Oduya (still early) but wrong in thinking NJ would trade Greene when Fraser was healthy. Greene has tremendous hockey sense and is a good skater. Match that up with a canon from the point and you have a decent #4 defensmen. Yes, he will be a #4 by seasons end even if he is getting weak minutes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) I was right in the aspect that I thought Greene would be better then Oduya (still early) but wrong in thinking NJ would trade Greene when Fraser was healthy. Greene has tremendous hockey sense and is a good skater. Match that up with a canon from the point and you have a decent #4 defensmen. Yes, he will be a #4 by seasons end even if he is getting weak minutes now. Smoke Weed Everday. Edited October 18, 2009 by HellOnICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 i'm no fan of greene but he's the guy that gave us the wins in every game we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelastonealive Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I was right in the aspect that I thought Greene would be better then Oduya (still early) but wrong in thinking NJ would trade Greene when Fraser was healthy. Greene has tremendous hockey sense and is a good skater. Match that up with a canon from the point and you have a decent #4 defensmen. Yes, he will be a #4 by seasons end even if he is getting weak minutes now. Not sure if I believe it, but I want to! (Cannon from the point? You sure you're not thinking of Rolston?) Either way, I'll drink to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Not sure if I believe it, but I want to! (Cannon from the point? You sure you're not thinking of Rolston?) Either way, I'll drink to this. Set Greene up for the onetimer a few times and you will see it. At the AHL skills competition he was clocked at 96 MPH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) I was right in the aspect that I thought Greene would be better then Oduya (still early) but wrong in thinking NJ would trade Greene when Fraser was healthy. Greene has tremendous hockey sense and is a good skater. Match that up with a canon from the point and you have a decent #4 defensmen. Yes, he will be a #4 by seasons end even if he is getting weak minutes now. and richard jackman still has a chance c'mon now. greene is 26, it's not still early, greene's like perfect world upside is johnny oduya. he does not have a cannon from the point; skills competitions do not measure anything. Edited October 18, 2009 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 c'mon now. greene is 26, it's not still early, greene's like perfect world upside is johnny oduya. he does not have a cannon from the point; skills competitions do not measure anything. Defensemen take longer to develop, you know that! And why not... we use skills competitions to determine winners and losers in NHL games after all right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 and richard jackman still has a chance c'mon now. greene is 26, it's not still early, greene's like perfect world upside is johnny oduya. he does not have a cannon from the point; skills competitions do not measure anything. Soooo....A radar gun does not determine how powerful a players shot is? I guess using numbers like goals does so. Greene got a late start to his pro career and has yet to be given a chance at some minutes. He has all the tools to put up a good amount of points at the NHL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Greene has impressed me as well. Hopefully he can keep it up. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Soooo....A radar gun does not determine how powerful a players shot is? I guess using numbers like goals does so. Greene got a late start to his pro career and has yet to be given a chance at some minutes. He has all the tools to put up a good amount of points at the NHL level. no, it doesn't, because it's not in game conditions - colin white can get off a 90 MPH slapper too, it doesn't mean he's all of the sudden some great goal scorer. andy greene has never been a goal scorer at college or in the pros, he's not a goal scorer. he's also been given lots of chances at minutes, and the tools he has always lacked is decision making, which is why he's been off and on the power play for years - he doesn't move the puck or shoot it quickly enough. so far he's looking like he's beaten some of that - we'll see if he keeps it up. Edited October 18, 2009 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Soooo....A radar gun does not determine how powerful a players shot is? I guess using numbers like goals does so. Greene got a late start to his pro career and has yet to be given a chance at some minutes. He has all the tools to put up a good amount of points at the NHL level. How many Norris trophies did Iafrate win? Shot speed isn't everything, you still have to defend. I have no problem admiting that Greene looks better this year, projecting him a top 4 is pure wet dream fantasy that some here are waiting for....never happen. Edited October 18, 2009 by DevilinLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 no, it doesn't, because it's not in game conditions - colin white can get off a 90 MPH slapper too, it doesn't mean he's all of the sudden some great goal scorer. andy greene has never been a goal scorer at college or in the pros, he's not a goal scorer. he's also been given lots of chances at minutes, and the tools he has always lacked is decision making, which is why he's been off and on the power play for years - he doesn't move the puck or shoot it quickly enough. so far he's looking like he's beaten some of that - we'll see if he keeps it up. Saying someone has "a canon from the point" is not calling them a "goal scorer". Rolston is a perfect example so far this year. He has a hell of a shot but it never hits the net. Since he isn't scoring those shots, does that no longer make him a goal scorer? Cause what you just said seems like only goal scorers can have fast slappers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 How many Norris trophies did Iafrate win? Shot speed isn't everything, you still have to defend. I have no problem admiting that Greene looks better this year, projecting him a top 4 is pure wet dream fantasy that some here are waiting for....never happen. Did I say he was a Norris winner because of his shot, I said its something he has. I said he will be a #4 by seasons end and I stand by it. He was one of the top two way defensmen in college, he was an all star in the AHL and with a little confidence he will be a solid NHL everyday defensmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Did I say he was a Norris winner because of his shot, I said its something he has. I said he will be a #4 by seasons end and I stand by it. He was one of the top two way defensmen in college, he was an all star in the AHL and with a little confidence he will be a solid NHL everyday defensmen. he was an all-star on a terrible AHL team that had no one else to award it to. jiri bicek was an AHL all-star multiple times. the problem is that there's 150 games or so that suggest that andy greene is little more than a back-pairing defender with some power play skill. time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilinLA Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Did I say he was a Norris winner because of his shot, I said its something he has. I said he will be a #4 by seasons end and I stand by it. He was one of the top two way defensmen in college, he was an all star in the AHL and with a little confidence he will be a solid NHL everyday defensmen. Solid everyday defenseman to ME...implies a servicable back pair guy #4 implies someone who warrants a contract that makes Sal, White, or Oduya money.... say $2-3M Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Solid everyday defenseman to ME...implies a servicable back pair guy #4 implies someone who warrants a contract that makes Sal, White, or Oduya money.... say $2-3M Which is it? At some point in the future I think he will be a 2 million dollar defensmen. I really expect a 30 point season from Greene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 How many Norris trophies did Iafrate win? Shot speed isn't everything, you still have to defend. I have no problem admiting that Greene looks better this year, projecting him a top 4 is pure wet dream fantasy that some here are waiting for....never happen. I wish Andy Greene was Al Iafrate. But your point is well taken. Al was a very good player, but mostly on the offensive end of the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) At some point in the future I think he will be a 2 million dollar defensmen. I really expect a 30 point season from Greene. i'd bet heavily against this. over/under on his points should be around 16. Edited October 18, 2009 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 So everyone likes Greene now cause of that one nice chance he had in the Carolina game? That's really all it takes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 So everyone likes Greene now cause of that one nice chance he had in the Carolina game? That's really all it takes? I've been pro-Greene since his first shot with the team back in the 07 season and playoffs It takes more time for a defenseman to develop and learn tendencies of other players then forwards, and he'll only be 27 next week... he's about that time where he's gonna come into his own now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Im a big fan of Greene, esp. when it means benching Murphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime98 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 So everyone likes Greene now cause of that one nice chance he had in the Carolina game? That's really all it takes? many of us have been Greene supporters for awhile now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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